It has everything to do with it because god said so:
“They basically told me that I should be ashamed of myself,” Timonet told a local news outlet. “That I wasn’t basically following God’s ideals, which made me cry even more.” “I felt like my life was over.”
Guys, it’s the same rules as any underaged closet atheist. Study your ass off, become financially independent, then twerk in front of your god fearing scholarship committee
Satanism is only necessary because religion is cancer though. Just like cancer, we need to use another thing that kills to kill it. I’m 100% in agreement with Satanism’s tenants, but it’s because they’re just humanist ideals wrapped in the garb of religion to use religion as a tool.
All religions are tools. Saying “religion is cancer” overlooks all of the good things that people get out of religion, such as a community with shared values that helps each other. If you can have a religion without superstition and dogma, where’s the harm? It’s not religion that’s cancer. It’s superstition and dogma.
Sure, but the term religion implies superstition and dogma. It’s literally part of the definition. What is religion without that? Community and tax exempt status? The former is just called community (which also implies shared values) and the latter is mostly a scam.
I’m not saying good things can’t come from religion, but they don’t come because they are religious. Any good they do is done regardless (or often despite) the supernatural beliefs.
Sure, but the term religion implies superstition and dogma. It’s literally part of the definition.
Definitions have to comport with reality, not the other way around. Satanism is not a social club. We have holidays, we have rituals, we have ministers who conduct wedding ceremonies. We even have church services.
I want to let you know I’m not the one downvoting you. I disagree, but I’m not downvoting.
Personally, I don’t think The Satanic Temple should be considered a religion. I think the term has been watered down, particularly in the US, because our laws are stupid. As long as there is an incentive to be called a religion it should be, but there shouldn’t be an incentive. Why should anyone’s beliefs be valued more because they’re tied to (usually at least) supernatural beliefs?
TST was created as religious satire. That’s the reason for the holidays, riguals, and other services. They need to conform to the appearance of a religion to work as a religion for their own purposes. That isn’t to say these are bad or wrong. They’re just as valid as any other religion. It’s just that the belief that it’s founded on is humanism, not something supernatural.
Why should anyone’s beliefs be valued more because they’re tied to (usually at least) supernatural beliefs?
TST agrees with you. In fact, this is almost word-for-word what it says in the FAQ under the question “If you don’t believe in the supernatural, how is TST a religion?”
TST was created as religious satire. That’s the reason for the holidays, riguals, and other services.
I mean if you’re going to be that pedantic about a comment that doesn’t strike me as intending to be nuanced and specific, there are versions of Christianity that are fine with twerking too
Seems like the easiest way to get into a really good school would be to sue, whip up a media frenzy, and frame it through a feminist lens. Write an essay about overcoming adversity by standing up for what is right, no matter the cost.
I’d get the dance team members in on it for vaguely impugning their reputations, because when asked why nothing happened to them, the answer more or less had the implied subtext “that’s fine for them because we expect them to act like hoes, but you’re our hood ornament and should behave better.”
edit: in case anyone is unclear on my position regarding twerking
I agree. She’s literally getting punished for having fun with her friends at a dance party. And her friends should get the same restitution because they were also, having fun. God forbid this incredibly intelligent girl go on to be anything but an avenue for childbirth, or her friends don’t follow the same path
“They basically told me that I should be ashamed of myself,” Timonet told a local news outlet. “That I wasn’t basically following God’s ideals, which made me cry even more.”
The principal inserted their religion into their job at a public school.
It’s crazy. She lost benefits over something somebody else did. I can’t make sense of it. The dogma and brining faith and religious righteousness into everything is out on hand and needs to stop
In your own words, according to you, she did do something wrong: she did she wouldn’t want being filmed. (Note: she wasn’t actually the one twerking.)
Look at how the comments on this got taken and twisted.
Nobody twisted your comments. We just read what you wrote and considered the context in which you wrote it. (That last detail is something you seem to have not done.)
hard agree some poor kid getting molested by a priest praying to cold dead silence… either gods sending kidfuckers to earth or he’s just standing by and watching it happen. I feel like churning down a burch
100% agree kids should be allowed to be kids and do things like dance and have fun. Reminds me of back in the day comments like “leave room for Jesus” when dancing and “Rock n roll is from the devil” its fricking 2923 keep your religion out of my life
I have read the room. The victim is not here. OP got the article from a news source.
THUS… we don’t need to worry about hurting her feelings. How else CAN we contribute? Well, one constructive way is to share advice for how to prevent this. It’s a good practice to not do or say things unless you’re comfortable being recorded.
I agree her punishment is inappropriate, but I don’t control that high school. All I control is whether I do things I don’t want recorded or not.
How about if we rephrase it as “don’t do things that someone else can victimize you for.” Can you see how there can be a correlation with victim blaming?
The contextual difference here is that the woman in question was dancing at a private party. That is something that’s okay to be comfortable with, even if a friend is recording. Thus, the problem here isn’t that she shouldn’t have done that, but that others victimized her over it.
That’s why Rally’s advice is getting criticized. It’s getting correlated with “don’t do things you enjoy in private with your friends because someone terrible might do terrible things to you.” This is genuinely terrible advice.
I never thought that or said that. You made a large jump there. All I did was to share guidence i provided to my family. It’s not my place to blame anyone here.
It’s just advice for my kids that I shared. It may be good or bad advice based on your opinions and experiences. Take it, or leave it. But how do you jump to victim blaming?
Lol… wow. The advice from rally is sound and totally correct. You took it the wrong way and thought he was saying it was her fault. He is saying don’t even put yourself in that situation by being filmed if you can avoid it. If you do not understand that then you’re truly lost. Also, im blocking you because Im sure you’ll misunderstand this too.
I never said that. I never made a comment about the person in the article. Just my life experience. We are all free to do whatever want. I would never yuck somebody else’s yum. It’s just sad in this age almost everything you do can be brought up against you in the future. I just want my kids to be aware of this and that is all.
I think twerking is pretty stupid, but I have nothing against stupid things. I love doing them and as long as you’re not hurting other people you should be free to be as stupid as you want without anyone judging you.
God. God cares. He loves everyone and is omnipotent, but also really judgy and bitchy because reasons. And he's watching you so closely that you can reach out and touch his bloodshot ethereal eyeball. Well, if it wasn't ethereal, anyway. So don't ever let that aspirin fall from between your knees. He'll know if it does. And send plague of Karens to shame you. But only because he loves you and demands obedience.
He’ll know if it does. And send plague of Karens to shame you.
No no, first the Karens have to find that out, God won’t tell them even if he’s literally aware of everything that happens in the world. He’s kinda lazy if you ask me.
I completely agree with you. The sad fact is that many people care. I don’t condone it. I have done a lot of dumb things that would have a large life impact on my life if they were caught on camera.
Wow, I went to sleep, and my comment got bombed to hell.
Let me clarify to anyone reading these comments. I don’t agree at all with what happened to this girl. It’s unfair and wrong on so many levels. The principle comments are gross and uncalled for.
All I did was put advise out there that I give to my children to help navigate that world as we see it.
No reasonable person should be afraid to be filmed dancing. The video was completely innocent and the principal at this school is clearly a religious creep.
In this world today there is also no way to avoid being filmed anyway.
You expect us to believe your comment has nothing to do with the article, and just by coincidence, you happened to post “I tell my kids not to do anything they wouldn’t want being filmed” in response to an article about someone facing consequences for somebody else doing something that was filmed, and we are all the bad guys for unfairly assuming tha your comment had anything at all to do with the article it was posted in response to?
They are related of course. That is the point of a discussion post. But the jump to victim shaming is improper. I am not saying anyone is a bad guy here, never have or implied that. Just stating my point and people are assuming things about my post. I’ll take it as a learning lesson to be clearer in the future.
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