Heavybell,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

8’d say it’s only bad by the standards of the first world. Not counting foreign policy here, mind you.

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes it’s that bad

Yepthatsme,

In 2015 I was in Niger doing NGO work and the founder of the NGO said to me that the most important thing about America is the peaceful transition of power. That next year that transition of power came under direct attack and then again in 2020.

From my travels and the people I talk to, we have been under attack since at least 2008. From domestic terrorists working with foreign governments. Factions in spy agencies actively engaged in domestic espionage to help elites take more power. Cultist religious mega churches spreading misinformation and conspiracies in rural areas for decades priming for a “revolution”.

Billionaires that you hear about daily are also in on it.

You better fight for your democracy by showing up to every town meeting you can America because you will absolutely lose everything. Support unions and delete that extreme individualism in your programming that capitalist America wants to instill in each person so you never organize against them.

This is the time to get out in front of 2024 and fight for your rights and a reasonable society not this psycho bullshit we are stuck in right now.

Sorchist,

That next year that transition of power came under direct attack

I'm pretty sure Obama allowed power to be transferred peacefully to Trump, just like every other president had before him.

Bipta,

I think they meant that Trump said he'd say it was rigged if he didn't win.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

If you’re in a developing nation, consider this: America has probably about the same amount of wealth inequality as you, but America has probably ten or a hundred times more wealth. So, the American who lives a life similar to you will have more money when he travels; but while he’s in America, there’s some rich, corrupt villain in the nearby big city who has enough money to buy up and destroy his neighborhood at any time, who owns most of the police force and government and media - I am presuming your developing nation is the same way, because only some parts of the EU are different (at least from what I’ve been told)

AttackBunny,

It’s all relative, but no, in the grand scheme of things, it’s not.

The issue, whether it’s conscious or not, is what we were sold (work hard, be nice, and you can have everything you ever wanted) not matching up with reality for most of us. My parents are squarely in the dead middle of the boomer generation. My step father is a construction worker, and my mother hasn’t worked since I was in high school. So they are one income, and it’s probably not an exceptional lot good income. They own their own home, in a very nice area, have retirement options, the world wasn’t literally on fire, they didn’t have to go through multiple once in a lifetime collapses, etc. In contrast, I’ll probably never be able to afford a home (run down houses on tiny properties are easily 800k here) and husband and I are dual income, I’ll likely never retire, my money is worth far less than theirs was, the world is burning, etc.

I’m also the last generation that didn’t have to worry about school shootings. I was graduating the year columbine happened. Not a single thing has been done in over 20 years since. I’d actually say access has gotten so much worse. Plus the “gun culture”. It’s insanity. The worship is crazy.

Then watching government fall into the farce it is, that’s bought and paid for. With little help coming to those that need it. And being a woman, watching my rights slip further and further away across the country.

kersploosh, (edited )
@kersploosh@sh.itjust.works avatar

No. The US has its problems but it’s not the hellhole people like to make it out to be.

It helps to look at the US in parts rather than as a homogeneous block. The country is huge and varied with 300M people in a land area larger than Europe. Laws can be wildly different from state to state, especially on hot topics like abortion or gun ownership or drug possession. Some states are filthy rich and others are depressingly poor. Some places are perfectly safe and others are dangerous.

For example, take a look at these maps comparing US states to European countries. Depending on the metric the US can look great or awful compared to Europe.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, no. People bitch a lot but I’ve lived here a lot of years, my healthcare is fine, despite owning several guns I’ve never seen one fired at anyone, and I can pretty much do whatever I want.

Aabbcc,

Just a few million homeless, hungry, and incarcerated, plus the exploitation of workers in poorer nations, and you can be pretty ok with how things are! It’s a great system

Hoomod,

Last I checked, US had like 20% of the world’s prison population. Just absolutely insane, plus prison doesn’t exactly rehabilitate anyone, so people just end up back in it

fubbernuckin,

It also removes any chance you once had at being a law abiding citizen. Once you have a record you basically aren’t allowed to work anymore.

Bytemeister,

Well, when a good chunk of your prisons are for profit, and there is no system to incentivise reform, then it makes sense. They don’t want to kill their business.

It’s bullshit though. Prisons should be paid based on how many of their inmates successfully rehabilitate.

zepheriths,

Every government everywhere passes bad laws l, Canada past laws requiring exposure on online media to be a certain percentage Canadian, but then didn’t give a way for “small” online creators ( non company run) to join the system. The UK is straight up attempting to ban encryption. The French President told the people of the country “no fuck you” after they protested for months about a law to increase pension age. No country is perfect, every nation has active issues. Anyone saying America is the worst, is on aware of what is going on elsewhere in other countries.

xtremeownage, (edited )

No. it’s not that bad.

I grew up poor, without many opportunities. No free ride, college etc. I grew up in a small town, without much going on.

I was able to work hard, put myself through college, buy a house, and raise a family on my single income, and live comfortably. I have medical coverage, we have new-ish vehicles.

That being said, the opportunity is there. But, it is NOT given to you. You do have to work for it.

But, again, nothing has been “given” to me. I didn’t have the advantage of having rich parents, or large inheritances (or- well, ANY inheritances). I didn’t have a family member give me a 4,000sq-ft house they purchased in 1952, for 1,200$.

Every single thing I own, I have worked for.

Now, there are a few sides to this argument-

There are a lot of people who don’t want to work. They see someone who is doing financially well, and believe they have some claim to someone else’s fortune. I do not agree with this.

On the other side, we don’t have universal healthcare. This is a touchy subject.

I do believe we need it, but, HOW we get that, is a different story.

Our government has proven time and time again, if you give them a simple task, they will fuck it up, royally, and hemorrhage money. Our medical system as a whole, is completely fucked. It’s not the doctors getting rich. Its the damn insurance companies, and all of the bureaucracy and bullshit involved. Granted, doctors aren’t living on sticks. But, do remember- they literally spent OVER two decades of their life in school, to learn how to be a doctor. Its expected they should have a salary greater then someone who works at your local fast food place.

I realize, lots of people will disagree with my post. And- for that, I don’t give a shit. If you don’t want to be poor, then take control over your life. Identify an in-demand profession, which has good compensation, and work for it. Quit blaming everyone else due to you working at McDonalds because your liberal arts degree, isn’t marketable.

Also- OP- lots of the people you talk to on social media, are statistically younger, in the 20s, and still trying to figure out how to live life.

Edit- Also, one more thing. Drama sells news. News outlets are only going to show news, which people want to watch. People don’t tune into the news to watch good things happening. They want to see the bad. As such, news and social media can give inaccurate vision of how things actually are. (Unless you live in Chicago or NYC. Then- it’s actually even worse than the news shows)

Valmond,

You sound like an American boomer.

Well healthcare for everyone would be nice (I have it) but How??

I worked hard, didn’t study, have a house and family. Everyone not having house and family are lazy.

I mean there are other things but dude you are the American stereotype!

xtremeownage,

Yup.

Suppose I am the youngest boomer ever.

https://lemmyonline.com/pictrs/image/0feba542-3d8f-43f0-a2f9-39dc835631c1.png

Nearly a half of a century off too.

But, in either case, everyone has the opportunity to apply themselves, and seek out a better life. Can blame others, or bash on me for being a “boomer”. But, in the end, the only one who can improve you, is you.

If, universal basic income became a thing, poor people are still going to be poor. The price of milk is just going to go up to compensate for inflation, and you wouldn’t be much better off.

Zoot,

Still very out of touch. I personally am doing okay, however anything I have is due to the sheer luck of knowing some one who knows someone. That is more or less the way of life is it not?

One thing your generation does not understand, is the sheer crushing depression that everyone I know has been dealing with. Yes every generation has had to face doomsayers, death, wars, things that can create just as much depression. However, at the end of the day, all they needed to do was work to get ahead. Now imagine all of that, continuing to work, and then listening to how their peers handled all the same issues but yet… my generation still cant own a single thing? Some of us are LUCKY to be afforded that oppurtunity, where a majority of us are just fucked.

I agree with you though, I dropped out of Highschool, had a kid at 17, got into a trade and I’m doing okay. Even then, I’m not alright. I am just being anecdotal of course, and comparing myself to others is not fair, and I wouldnt say America is absolute shit, but then again it really is. Hard to say otherwise when half the country is doing their absolute hardest to remove human rights, opportunities, and being so incredibly distant and toxic to anyone with a different mindset.

xtremeownage, (edited )

One thing your generation does not understand

I’m under 40.

I was in school when 9/11 happened.

I was a grunt in the military during the iraq war.

I was around when the market collapsed in 2008-ish.

I lived on a diet of Ramen noodles and crackers for years, in the early 20-teens.

My “college degree” is actually worth less then nothing now. I paid one hundred thousand dollars, to a fucking school, which was not accredited, and no longer exists. There were no bailouts for me. And, every so often, I get reminded of it, when I see another lawsuit ad against them on the news…

is the sheer crushing depression that everyone I know has been dealing with

For literally a decade, I also fought through those issues. Doctors will just give you lovely trazodones, and other drugs, to “make you happy”. The worst part, is they make sure you know, it’s YOUR fault.

I lived through the fun of trying to decide if I wanted to pay the bills, or get something to eat.

I recall, all of the wonderful… insomnia which results from depression.

And, best of yet, the feeling of having all sorts of fun bills arrive.

It never really ends either. It just gets funner… and the risks get higher, especially when you have kids involved.

That being said- I might be doing OK now, but, life has not been rainbows and daisy’s for me. Thanks… to a short stay in the armed forces, I am quite certain my emotions are beyond repair, and well. I can’t hear worth a damn.

But, I did learn a few useful things in the military.

  1. Adapt, and overcome.
  2. Drive on.

Edit, matter of fact, I still have issues with depression. Knock on wood though, my kids are fantastic at making me forget about it. But, life still has its ups and downs. Although, I generally do a pretty good job of hiding it. Although, it still takes a significant effort to want to “do things”

ihavenopeopleskills, (edited )
@ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social avatar

Another veteran under 40 here, also with depression. BSCS. I suffered a violent career upset / ending and lived in my car for a few months. Two years later I own my own house and have paid off the loan on said car making two thirds of what I used to.

You're going to work your testes off but it can be done. Writing this from aforementioned car on a security guard shift as my second job.

xtremeownage,

Hope all is well. Also- How are you?

Valmond,

If you work hard then everything is going to be okay / if it is not okay then you haven’t worked hard enough is some American evangelist boomer crap.

Sure, you worked hard and it turned out well, but you seems to be blind to the fate of all other people working hard and not making it.

You worked hard, like we all do, and you got lucky but don’t want to acknowledge it.

Guess it’s an attitude, not an age range.

xtremeownage,

Your in France. Why are you commenting on how the US is?

Valmond,

Oh god forbid right.

ihavenopeopleskills,
@ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social avatar

THIS.

Seriously. Turn off corporate media and throw it in the garbage.

Franzia,

Your take and my take are not mutually exclusive. I want to work at a worthwhile career, but I also want to work hard at activism and unionizing so that one day we can achieve better.

xtremeownage,

I can accept that. I am by no means at all, saying things are ideal. There is VAST rooms for improvement in nearly every aspect of everything.

RaoulDook,

This is accurate, I’ve had a similar experience through my life in the USA. Working for what you need in life is somehow an unpopular opinion now?

Well, at least we tried to teach them.

xtremeownage,

Yup. And it only seems to keep getting worse and worse… Sadly.

rasterweb,
@rasterweb@artemis.camp avatar

I've lived in the US for over 50 years and yes, in many ways it's really shitty here. I look at how other countries function and wonder why we can't do the same thing. The US is "supposedly" the greatest country in the world and yet, there is so much wrong with it.

Granted, there are good things too (depending on where you live and your status, of course.)

HellAwaits,

Yes. Beware of what being an American really means.

eric5949,

Yes and no. Better than a lot of places in a lot of ways, worse than a lot of our peers in a lot of ways.

Epicurus0319,

It’s not as bad as they say it is. And yes it does vary from region to region a great deal.

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

The only reason I didn’t get financially destroyed by the accident I was in, was just because the driver who struck me off my bicycle was 100% at fault and there was no denying it. You can try to say I served in front of you but at the end of the day you struck a bicyclist from behind on the road.

Anyways, because of laws on how much you can sue for I was capped out. So I didn’t get a ton of money but thankfully they also were forced to cover all my medical expenses along with the payout, which would have easily bankrupted me even with really good insurance if I had to pay that back.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

And America can’t be bothered to build safe bike lanes. I refuse to ride my bike on the road. Anyone who doesn’t like me riding on the sidewalk can fuck off

RemembertheApollo,

The problem is you’d have to tear up a shitton of infrastructure to do it because built-up areas have no room to extend road widths safely to accommodate bike lanes. The driver behind that problem (pun intended) is the car culture and lack of public transportation. They can’t get rid of car lanes to hand them over to walking/biking dedicated areas because there’s too many cars and people that rely upon them to get around. There would never be enough people that would vote for or support such a project. Rural areas DGAF and are too poor to build bicycle infrastructure.

It’s not that we can’T be bothered, it’s the usual problem of Americans not wanting to pay for anything that they don’t use themselves or that might inconvenience them even though it’s good to get cars off the roads and keep people safe.

XGC75,
@XGC75@kbin.social avatar

It's disingenuous to say rural areas are too poor to install public transportation. It's that there's too much to install (too much space) for any given user. Just economics of rural areas. It doesn't make sense unless we can significantly reduce the capital investment and running costs of public transport.

Nemo,

But riding on the sidewalk is less safe! Not just for pedestrians, for YOU, the cyclist. There are more hazards and less visibility.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Baseless statement, elaborate

It’s not more dangerous for pedestrians because I am aware and respectful of them.

So tell me exactly how it’s more dangerous for me to be on a further-removed pathway, protected by a curb and other objects like light posts.

Nemo,

Not baseless, data-driven. This isn’t, like, my opinion, and this is the reason it’s illegal for adults to ride on sidewalks in many municipalities.

There are more obstacles on the sidewalk, and sidewalk is more prone to be uneven. Most bicycle accidents aren’t bike vs. car, but now vs. environment: unexpected bumps or drops, debris, obstacles like poles and tree branches.

But the real problem is visibility. People step out onto sidewalks not expecting a speeding cyclist, risking collisions. But more importantly for your safety, motorists aren’t expecting you there, either. So when you are going across intersections, they cannot see you –because you’re in the wrong place, and because as you point out, there are streetlights and sign poles and other objects between you– and may turn into you .

STUPIDVIPGUY,

so the only case these apply are when the cyclist isn’t paying attention to their surroundings… which is the real reason it’s dangerous, and when you eliminate that, I would rather have bikes passing next to people than cars passing next to bikes, because the latter is actually deadly when someone does make a mistake

Nemo,

You can’t anticipate someone stopping out of a storefront or doorway, though, especially not at speed. This is not something you can eliminate.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Of course you can’t predict the future, and neither can motorists. What you can do is ride at a speed reasonably slow enough that you can react to people, and you can ride on the side of the pathway further from the doorways.

And like I said already, a bike on person accident at slow speed is favorable to risking my own life or life-changing injury by riding in the street.

If you’re trying to change my mind, stop trying. For anyone reading this, petition your local government to build safe bike lanes with solid barriers and we won’t have to have this argument.

ihavenopeopleskills,
@ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social avatar

I will give you that. The DC area is incredibly cyclable / walkable and it's nice, considering how scarce and expensive parking is.

ZombiFrancis,

America is wealthy as all hell regardless. It is part of the reason things like Healthcare is so expensive: there’s a whole lot of economic power to siphon up as an insurance company.

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