Do you feel this place has gotten more.. reddit-y lately?
Of course, that’s to be expected, with people migrating from Reddit and all, but the title is kind of badly worded.
Feel there’s a lot more argumentative and just kind of… angry users on here. (have you seen Sync fans biting everyone’s asses over saying money should be spent funding instances and not an app?)
I’ve started using the block button liberally. Specifically on users that seem to be only interested in stirring the pot and not actually interested in having any kind of actual discussion. I also just blocked a weird influx of porn bots linking the strangest domains on !random that were all created yesterday
I rarely blocked people on reddit but the pool is much smaller here so you tend to run into the same troll repeatedly or they spam throughout ansingle thread
Ive taken to just reporting and blocking left and right because i dont have the mental bandwidth to spend on someone who is looking for fights and not legitimate arguments
Oh my Reddit blocklist was huge. There was a subreddit for my city I was fairly active in but it was just always littered with unabashed racists that I would block all the time, they would get banned, they would make a new account to keep being racist, I would block again.
I felt like local communities were disappointing for the most part, since I’d expect it to be people talking about interesting activities or events happening where they lived. But, majority of the content seemed to be filled with break ins or murder news and complaining about how trash everything is. Occasionally some useful threads about where to find ___ in the city or what services people recommend for ___, but that seemed to be the rate exceptions. So not something you really visited or subscribed to unless I had a specific local question to ask.
I noticed the botspam too. I submitted a report, but I have no idea where it goes. lol Someone else said it was loaded with malware though. I didn’t click on any of it to find out, personally. Better safe than sorry.
I saw on another thread that reports are sent to both your instance’s administrators/moderators and the reported person’s instance administrators/moderators
I use the mobile web client and it’s just in the 3 dots menu on a comment/post to report and to block. By memory it’s the same on the desktop web client too
You take any topic, with passionate fans and they’ll defend it. A lot of it probably from the backlash was the first thing they saw.
I’ll keep it real, I paid for Sync because of the decade history with that app and plan on doing the same (a post linked a way to do it) with the instance I’m in. I see me being on Lemmy a lot and looking forward to keeping the positive vibes going.
See but at least some of that is going to make it back to an instance host and help keep servers going, and I think that’s the biggest gripe myself and a lot of people have with the sync iaps and advertising
Oh I’m aware why people gripes. Almost all the biggest threads I’ve seen are about it, memes, just and endless wave of it. It’s just a trip to see the Lemmy Patreon with 484 people subscribed to it with this many people on Lemmy.
Why do you think it’s an either/or? It isn’t at all.
Besides, sync was always monetized, and everyone that was asking/begging Dawson to migrate the app knew that. The only people surprised are people that didn’t use it to begin with, and aren’t going to use it now.
Were you not a reddit user, or a third party app user? Like, most of the reddit apps were Monetized in some way. Apollo, the app that was the tipping point for the reddit rage was heavily monetized, and people were begging Christian to port it over.
The whole thing is crazy. If a given person wants to use it and pay for it, that’s their business. Dawson did nothing bad by porting the app, or monetizing it from the beginning. How many great apps have fucked up by not monetizing from the beginning? Look at pushbullet and how it started so great, but then had to backpeddle and increase monetizing, only to alienate users because it was a change.
I’m sorry you don’t like capitalism, and I’m sorry we’re stuck inside it too. But an app like this is a pretty time intensive thing. You either kill your spare time working on it as a hobby, or you monetize so you can avoid how much time it sucks from you by not having to work on other things.
Besides, sync was always monetized, and everyone that was asking/begging Dawson to migrate the app knew that. The only people surprised are people that didn’t use it to begin with, and aren’t going to use it now.
I’m an iPhone user so never had Sync, but even I’m confused about how upset people are. It’s like they’re trying to be offended on behalf of Sync users? Like…Sync users aren’t forced to use it and aren’t forced to pay for it. They choose to because they like the app and appreciate what the dev does. I loved Apollo and while I know Christian isn’t going to make a Lemmy app, if he did I would pay for it/pay for an ad free version because I know he does good work and I like his product.
Homie’s been updating sync for over a decade. He actually asked us what he should do and we told him to make a lemmy app. Sync for Lemmy was trending in play store social media apps at #6 yesterday.
I’m from reddit and I hate the reddit shit as much as you. I was actually looking forward to some interesting conversations. Lemmy’ll grow and part of that growth will be development and part of it will be social norms around federation and these damn kids.
I’m super tired of seeing all this circlejerking over sync and people acting like I’m crazy for not spending money to make an app ad free when I could just keep using my free ad free app
Yeah, I use Jerboa because it’s fine and it’s FOSS. No ads, acceptable content management, and frankly, not being really amazingly fine tuned means I don’t want to stay on it forever. I would rather send my money to my instance admin to keep the server running.
I love the idea and spirit of Lemmy, I think decentralized and federated networks show a ton of promise…
However my experiences so far trying to engage in intelligent discussion/debate on Lemmy have been far more combative and frankly mean than I can ever recall on even the most “passionate” subreddits I participated in.
I think it’s a cross-section of the kinds of people who are enthusiastic about federated networks, and people who are knowledgeable enough to be early adopters here. But I’ll be honest, it has definitely cooled my interest in participating in discussion on Lemmy instances.
I don’t appreciate being called names or being accused of being a bad faith actor simply because I’m asking questions or challenging a viewpoint, and that seems to be the outcome of nearly every interaction here.
It doesn’t do any favors for changing the perception that Lemmy (and other federated platforms like Mastodon) are populated by terminally online keyboard warriors.
There’s a distinct feeling that if you support or even just use “traditional” (non-federated) platforms, or otherwise are not fully committed to 100% decentralization or open source, you are the enemy here.
I don’t want to go back to Reddit, and I won’t because of the absolutely abhorrent things their leadership has done and continues to do, but Lemmy users in my experience are overwhelmingly hostile and it sucks.
Maybe you are in the wrong instance , or community… Though I do acknowledge that people are super foss and decentralized avengers here. And also there are a large number of anti corporation and anti capitalists inhabiting lemmy. But mostly I’ve found people have been civil, the ones that I have encountered.
Anyway there’s always the block and report button for those special kind of internet people who I can consider as not in my interest to have another encounter again.
This almost perfectly mirrors my experience here. Overwhelming hostility and immediate jump to accusations of trolling, or being a ‘bad actor’ in some other way.
I've only had one thread conversation which really felt like a proper Reddit one (and it wasn't a political one, a TV related one).
It depends on your definition but for me it's roughly 'able to have civil conversation/debate without descending into attacks or points being dismissed because you don't like them and generally feeling like you're dealing with a 14 year old'
That said not every Reddit interaction is completely shit, it's just more likely to become that way
It’s intersting that the very first paid app that I can recall for lemmy, kbin, or Mastodon is one that showed up with ad integration. Kind of intersting for platforms that don’t have ads to begin with.
That’s the core of the issue, the vast majority of them want a Reddit experience here. Before the app announcement, the general vibe here was putting privacy and online freedom above convenience, without obviously neglecting the latter. Now strangely enough, we suddenly got brigades of Redditors putting in a lot of effort to repeatedly defend their overpriced purchase and troll those who dare to say that an ad-funded “free” Lemmy app is just plain wrong.
I think one of the problem is all the influx of apps and webUIs that display “karma” also known as points as a total. Now people are starting to follow some kind of mental herd of saying the right thing to not get downvoted.
Yeah it also creates fake opinions. People posting shit that agrees to what the majority says just to get a few more up votes. And dissent means being ostracized by being handed a mass down vote
Just my personal experience, but I do feel like people have been a lot quicker to be snippy and not as nice and welcoming these last two weeks or so compared to a 2 months ago when I first got here.
The lack of bots help. Honestly I wasn’t sure how many posts on the old site were made by actual people anymore (or just hired propagandists/“advertisers”) .
My last scroll through the front page had the stink of CHATGPT + paid posters/reposters on it and the comments were just repeated deja vu.
Yes, posted under a video tbag maybe a guy shouldn’t get beaten to tears fir stealing cigarettes from 7/11 and I got massdownvited while someone saying they were glad the employee broke company policy of just leaving the fucking guy alone, because they don’t want the liability and the losses are negligible.
Like he’s stealing from a big Corp tbag steals from it’s workers, WHO CARES?! I certainly wouldn’t care enough to beat a man with a board!
I agree but FYI franchises might have a brand on the front door but regular people own and operate them.
So like, idk the whole story, but in the vid, the camera man was asking the stick-weilding guy if the dudes been stealing from him for a while. 7/11 doesn’t protect/reimburse store owners for theft.
But yeah, the dude holding him down coulda just held him til cops got there. Is gross that it was so highly upvotes and celebrated.
Reddit migrant here. I actually much prefer the conversations here. Comment threads are still small enough to be manageable, people seem more patient and helpful, and overall, it’s less toxic.
As for the Sync drama, I’m perfectly happy with Connect, but I’m looking forward to Boost, which was my Reddit app of choice.
Holy crap dude, I saw this a day or so ago and just kind of passed over it thinking “eh, no way it’s THAT bad”…but every discussion I’ve had today has devolved into these weird accusations and almost conspiracy-like behavior (replies with things like “you’re from THAT orange site aren’t you? I came here to get away from people like you”)…
It’s like some of the people here are super amped up, and we’re not even talking political corners of lemmy, just normal ass groups like piracy, or 3d printing, etc.
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