FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The only YouTube videos I watch with any regularity that has sponsored ad segments is Some More News and their ads are almost always as funny as the show, so I don’t skip them.

Plus, I love seeing Cody chug that nasty green liquid I would never put near my mouth.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

As far as I know sponsors have no access to data on how many people watch their segments as opposed to whole-video viewership, unless they force the creator to disclose it which I doubt happens basically at all. Creator gets paid upfront and a kickback for using their link, not for you watching an in-video ad itself.

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah they wouldn’t lose out on any money unless you’re one of the people who try the products that sponsor them. They get some sort of upfront payment then a small percent of any purchase from their link.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

I wonder if clicking on their link (but not signing up or buying anything) helps the creator, either in terms of a direct kickback or in terms of how much ad slot money they get next time. Anyone know?

Natanael,

Those particular links would likely rely on sales commission, not just clickthrough (with some rare exceptions)

notepass,

I do pay for YouTube premium. This means the creator of the video gets payed by watchtime. Why should I pay for watching an in-video ad?

For normal users it doesn’t matter, as the creator is payed by view, not watchtime. And from what I know, sponsor deals are either fixed value or fixed value per X views. So it doesn’t impact them if people are skipping.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

The day I start a “garbage bin” channel, I will happily decline all sponsorship offers I get. Sure, it makes me money, but I don’t wanna endorse a company I actually don’t like, and then end up wasting my viewers’ time while also lying to them (cough cough Raycon). So how else will I get money? I’ll tell my viewers to Buy Me a Coffee (those 4 words are actually a real website).

So when is the “garbage bin” happening? I think a decade from now at most.

zepheriths,

If sponsors cared they can look at the,( I don’t know the name) bar that shows how far the video in a long. On you there is a chart that says where people will skip to ( on computer). On almost every sponsored video there is a huge spike right at the end of the sponsorship. It takes a few days for this to show up but it always shows the same spike

gamer,

Don’t worry about channel creators losing money. It may seem like a dick move, but it’s the right thing to do. When channels see that they aren’t making money on Youtube ad revenue, they’ll be forced to either find another source of income (merch, patreon, alternate site, etc), or quit.

That’s better for you, them, and society as a whole since it reduces the power of a monopoly owned by an evil company.

yuunikki,

I use ublock origin and sponsorblock, I’m not sitting through ads or product shillings.

Retiring,
@Retiring@lemmy.ml avatar

I recommend sponsorblock browser extension. Skips sponsored segments automatically.

scarabic,

How’s it detect them?

TheTetrapod,

People who watch the video early mark where the ad is.

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

Crowd sourced from other viewers

TechnoWarden,

Crowd sourced.

Sarazil,
@Sarazil@kbin.social avatar

Immediately, no. The advert payments don't pay attention to you skipping the advert.
Over time, as people skip the ads, the value that advertisers put on the ads will diminish, as they realise that people won't see them.
The best solution would be to make the advert relevant to the video, or making them actually interesting (Like TomSka's over the top SurfShark ads), but that's me overthinking things again.

9point6,

I’d 100% say that I’m less likely to skip an in-video sponsor segment if the creator has tried to make it a bit more entertaining than just an ad copy read with logos and stock footage of people walking on a beach.

I’d say map men and boyinaband are two that jump out to me as having several I’ve not skipped, there’s obviously others.

If advertisers aren’t already on to this, those are the spots they want to be paying for, and I’d hope that means the creators doing them are getting paid a lot for them

UsernameLost,

Woodworking for Mere Mortals had some great Microjig ads for a while until he ended the partnership

EmoDuck,

InternetHistorians ads are worth watching on their own

Squorlple,
@Squorlple@lemmy.world avatar

How do the advertisers know how frequently in-video ads have been skipped? Do they ask for historical data on this from the YouTuber before brokering the sponsorship for an individual video?

Sarazil,
@Sarazil@kbin.social avatar

They don't, they see how many people use the special link (Join now at www.superaids.com/yewtewber for 10% off your first order!) and if they find that fewer people are responding to the ads, the ads are simply worth less. If you skip ads without thinking, or worse with a plugin, then you won't ever see the ads that might actually interest you, and the use of those links will decrease.

InfiniWheel,

I guess in theory yes, because sponsors would eventually notice a drop in people spending money through the creator.

Personally, I haven’t and won’t ever use a product just because my favourite entertainer was paid to say its good. Before SponsorBlock I just manually skipped or tuned them out anyway, so I never counted in the first place.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

That implies that the person skipping the ad would have purchased in the first place.

Ads are like Nigerian Prince schemes. They are targeted at the people who are willing to engage. Skipping them is no different than ignoring them.

Otome-chan,
@Otome-chan@kbin.social avatar

The custom-made "sponsors" sections that are baked into the video are not paid per view. You can freely skip them without harming the content creator. iirc they get paid per video upload, not per view. it's only the "live" separate ads that appear prior to the video, mid-roll, etc. that they get paid per view (and would be missing if you block them).

scytale,

I release music via distributor to all music streaming platforms including YouTube. When playing my music, youtube puts ads before and sometimes after the video. Does that mean I’m getting a share of that ad revenue by default? Or is it for specific content creators that have a minimum number of subscribers only?

themoonisacheese,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

music is different. youtube has a deal with your label which states they pay $0.0000x dollars per stream, and your label gives you a part of that.

scytale,

Right, that I’m aware of. So I guess youtube just keeps that ad revenue for the ones they show with my music.

Otome-chan,
@Otome-chan@kbin.social avatar

If you're going through a music label then ask the company you're working with. They absolutely get paid per view (as per the pre-roll ads) if you aren't managing the uploads yourself. But what they pay you may be different depending on what they're doing.

Otome-chan,
@Otome-chan@kbin.social avatar

Youtube content creators get paid via a few different methods:

  1. Pre-roll and mid-roll ads. This is youtube's actual and intended monetization method. These are ads that play that are separate from the video and are personalized per-user. They often have a "skip" button you can click after a few seconds. Youtube pays creators per view for these ads. You should check youtube's monetization section on the channel settings to set this all up.
  2. Sponsors. These are baked into the video where the content creator usually goes something like "Yeah I enjoy my switch, but do you know what I like more? raid shadow legends!" These are one-time payments made prior to the video's release, and are not paid per view. The view count on the video and whether or not people are actually watching the sponsored section is irrelevant.
  3. Patreon and other patreon-like services. These are entirely unrelated to viewcount or ads, and are just people paying monthly on some other site (typically patreon or locals) to help fund the channel.

For music, I'm not sure at all how the youtube music platform works. But afaik youtube music is just youtube videos in a different format, so you'd be going with method #1 with the pre-roll ads.

Typically youtube's monetization model requires that you actually set things up, and in order to do so you need to meet particular criteria (particular subscriber counts, view counts, etc). I know musicians work with music labels, so that may work differently depending on what's going on for you. But if you're specifically managing a youtube channel where you upload videos, then #1 applies and just check the monetization section. I don't think it's "by default".

AmidFuror,

Not as long as you have bought one of everything from their merchandise shop.

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

I am paying $15 (or is it $18 already) for YouTube each month not to watch the adds. I am skipping those angrily on principle.

Scurouno,

If you are on Android, you really should download ReVanced. You can add adblock and sponsorblock, and you will barely ever see ads again.

I actually refused to watch YT on mobile because it was too annoying an experience, but 'vanced makes it much more like the good old days of no ads everywhere.

President_Pyrus,
@President_Pyrus@feddit.dk avatar

Vanced is advanced with ‘ad’ removed btw.

slazer2au,

Does it support chromecasting? That is the only think keeping to the official yt app on mobile.

Otherwise I am using FF with an adblocker.

I_Miss_Daniel,
@I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social avatar

I found it a bit tedious having to build a new version whenever it broke. It's a bit less convenient but now I just click stare then Newpipe sponsorblock.

Jentu,

YouTube premium, as far as I’m aware, still shares some of your monthly membership fee to the creators you watch to offset not seeing ads. I also am a premium member and feel no guilt at all about skipping sponsorship sections because of this.

yuunikki,

Damn paying $15 for YouTube when ublock origin and sponsorblock are browser extensions, and YouTube Revanced does everything YouTube plus gives you entirely for free on android.

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Yep, but I have Samsung TV, and this is where I watch it.

yuunikki,

Get a cheap android streaming stick and then sideload Smarttube next. All of YouTube premiums features for free including sponsorblock, ad block, miniplayer outside of the app, etc

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Damn paying $15 for a service that is almost the sole source of my daily entertainment, crazy

It’s not difficult. I like thing. I pay for thing so thing sticks around.

yuunikki,

Why pay anything when you can literally get it free lol

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Why wouldn’t I pay for something that I enjoy? I am fully aware of the cost of adblock and piracy, and I’ve decided that if I’m going to use adblock, then I’m going to pay for services I legitimately enjoy. I don’t bother with one-off services or things I rarely use, but I’m perfectly fine paying for things. I’m not hurting for cash.

Making enough money to live and also expecting everything for free is just greed.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Google makes more than enough to live, yet they demand more and you give it to them? How is that not greed.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

If I’m blocking ads and not paying for premium, the channels I watch make absolutely nothing on my view. It doesn’t sit right with me to consume content without giving anything in return. Paying for premium, which distributes half of what I pay to the creators I watch, fulfills that well enough that I’m fine paying for it. YouTube Music is just a bonus.

You watching it for free is not only taking money from Google but taking money from the channels you watch. Do whatever you want, I don’t care, but at least understand the consequences of your actions. I for one don’t like the idea of doing it, myself.

yuunikki,

Their income isn’t my problem

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Not your problem, but you’re directly responsible for making sure they get less of it

yuunikki,

👍

yuunikki,

I’d rather be greedy than give my money to the likes of Google, Spotify, etc. I’m not hurting for cash either, I just like shit for free. But hey as long as we have goody two shoes like you us pirates can continue getting what we want for free so keep it up!

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

I’m not paying to give money to Google, I’m paying for no ads on any devices (including my NVIDIA Shield) and more importantly half of the fee goes to the creators I watch.

I’m perfectly happy stealing from billion dollar corporations.

I’m not happy stealing from small businesses.

schwim,
@schwim@reddthat.com avatar

I won’t sit through a non-organic product placement. If I’m watching a guy weld up a body panel and he tells me how great a welder is, it doesn’t bother me. If I’m watching and he starts telling me about his VPN or a phone game, that shit’s getting skipped.

Rhynoplaz,

You know how I like to prepare for replacing a carburetor? PLAYING RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS!

Jimmycrackcrack,

At this point I’m wondering if any one has ever actually played this game or if it even really exists. Everyone hates that shit and it’s so over the top. They don’t let the people they sponsor put any kind of a spin on it either it’s just this completely alien and obnoxiously long diatribe where you can just about see the creator blinking in Morse code.

Rhynoplaz,

Every ad I’ve seen for it shows a completely different game. I almost want to run it just to see what it actually is, but I refuse to give them the traffic.

evranch,

Product placement has got to the point where if a YouTuber genuinely wants to recommend a product he’s got to be like “seriously guys I didn’t get paid for this and I even paid my own money for this welder, this is not a sponsorship, I just think it’s really good and you should check it out”

cobysev,

I watch several channels where people just mow lawns or do other landscaping work (it’s my version of ASMR; doing yard work was a nostalgic childhood memory of mine).

One of the guys I watch bragged about how amazing his riding mower was. He swore up and down he wasn’t a shill for the company, and he even painted over their logo so he wasn’t inadvertently advertising their brand on his channel. But he said it was the best mower he’s used in decades of work.

scarabic,

It seems like a lot of businesses have a turnkey affiliate/referral rewards program. Like how anyone can go set up Amazon affiliate links.

But the creator presents it as a sponsorship. “Today’s video is sponsored by SquareSpace!”

No it’s not, you’re just posting your affiliate link.

Eh_I,
@Eh_I@lemmy.world avatar

I really like when they drink the green goo and pretend it’s the best.

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