UltraMagnus0001,

“Twitter went to court because it wanted to tell Trump about the request despite the court-ordered secrecy.”

visak,

Musk told him. I guarantee it.

athos77,

I've said this before, but Musk just never grew beyond adolescence. [Tesla models S3XY! 42069 amirite! Ligma! Tesla fart noises! hahahahaha!] Which is a real problem because he was raised as a socially-ignorant rich white boy in full-apartheid South Africa.

Steeve,

I dunno, S3XY is pretty fun and I could forgive all that cringy stuff if he wasn’t such a fuckin narcissistic loser.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s only S3XY because Ford wouldn’t let him make a Model E. It was going to be the far less creative SEXY originally. Meh.

YaaAsantewaa,

You can forgive the blatant racism? Excuse me?

Steeve,

Huh? I didn’t say that at all

ForestOrca,
@ForestOrca@kbin.social avatar

tl;dr musk is a free speech absolutist? I don't really see an why in this article.

DigitalTraveler42,

Anybody that says they’re a “free speech absolutionist” is just dog whistling that they’re a fascist who is only interested in hearing what they want to hear, and what they want to hear is usually Nazi shit mixed with any number of unpopular Right Wing talking points.

argo_yamato,

Also parroting Kremlin talking points

DocMcStuffin,
@DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world avatar
MisterMoo,
@MisterMoo@kbin.social avatar

Because Elon Musk is just Donald Trump with business sense. I get roasted every time I say this, but I've never been more sure of anything in my life.

Fixbeat,

Not sure Elon has that either. Both morons.

lasagna,
@lasagna@programming.dev avatar

Elon Musk is a lottery winner in the business world.

someguy3,

Is ketamine the new cocaine?

ImplyingImplications,

Lol, Musk has had his bad ideas shot down since he tried to rename PayPal to “X”. He was just lucky enough to buy valuable companies and have capable people stop him from ruining them with his terrible ideas.

I honestly think if you gave a random person a billion dollars and told them to buy a company to run they could do just as well as Musk

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

I disagree

I think the vast majority of people, if given a billion dollar company, would try to remain as hands off as possible. Don’t rock the boat, just take the paycheck.

The problem is that Emerald Apartheid doesn’t need twitter or whatever to succeed. Even if the entirety of the 44 billion USD twitter deal were to be taken out of his tesla/spacex stock and flushed down the toilet: he still has billions (google says 150-ish but those valuations would change as stock prices change) left to never have to work another day in his life.

Have you ever said “keep the change” while paying with cash or put down a larger tip than you otherwise would have because you didn’t have exact change (… and weren’t using a credit card for some reason)? That is the level at which this is.

And it is why any attempts to understand batshit insane billionaires through “normal” logic just don’t work

RojoSanIchiban,

Not roasting, but don’t really agree. I mean, look at what’s left of twitter. He was never directly controlling Tesla and certainly not SpaceX, just had the money, practiced bullshit artistry, and made specific orders if it suited him.

I can almost certainly thank him for the ability to make my car fart from my phone, but that’s about it.*

*Disclaimer: Comment author (hereby “jerkface”) fully acknowledges jerkface has no insider experience in the Tesla product pipeline, and jerkface carries hopeful bias in that Musk has very little to do with the success of Tesla in order to assuage jerkface’s emotional guilt for loving the absolute shit out of jerkface’s Model 3 Performance because it’s awesome.

Edit-crap, no superscript with ^ I guess.

Elderos,

There is a lot to hate in that pic.

Crazy how coke and aderall make these 2 morons believe they should get to decide what direction the planet spin.

Why people worship idiots born in wealth will always be beyond me. If any of you ever suffered imposter symdrome, think of this picture in the thumbnail.

Diplomjodler,

At least Musk had some actual accomplishments. Crazy to watch him literally lose his mind in real time, though.

athos77,

What accomplishments? Man's bought his way into almost everything he's celebrated for.

Iwasondigg,

And ketamine. Don’t forget the ketamine.

PeleSpirit,

Oh boy, the next few months are going to get exciting.

Initially, the government also claimed that another reason to keep the warrant a secret from Trump was the risk that he might flee the country, but the government later retracted that reason, saying it had been mistakenly included. Tellingly, the court agreed with this reason, as well, before the prosecutors retracted it as a mistake.

WarmSoda,

The main reason is destroying evidence. This is a guy that would literally eat memos and flush paperwork down the toilet while in the white house.

PeleSpirit,

Oh for sure, but if the judge thinks it’s a possibility he could flee, that’s interesting to me. I hope Smith gets that January court date and we’ll know soon enough if he evades his secret service, lol.

RojoSanIchiban,

I and at least literally ‘ones’ of others figured he’d be off to Russia or more likely Saudi Arabia as soon as he left office because he was scared shitless of being thrown in jail.

Now, naturally I’m a bit pissed he hasn’t been held, at least on the Jan 6th charges, if not the damn espionage act indictment. “Two-tiered” justice, indeed.

Hubi,
@Hubi@feddit.de avatar

I had always hoped that Trump would try to escape to Russia. It would’ve been the icing on the shit cake.

sramder,

Hanging out with Steven Seagal, riding around shirtless with Putin 😂

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Barf.

WarmSoda,

I always picture him flying off on a propeller helicopter gadget thing, laughing.

athos77,

You forgot that they (Trump's people, maybe Trump himself) repeatedly burnt government documents in the White House fireplaces.

chaos,

White House fireplaces

One of my favorite West Wing episodes

Mr. President, you know how you told me not to wake you unless the building is on fire?

joel_feila,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

I love that episode

some_guy,

That’s one I haven’t heard before. It’s also something I’d believe.

athos77,

[White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told White House staffers to keep some Oval Office meetings "close hold" during the transition period, potentially leaving meetings off the books [...]. [Mark Meadows' aide Cassidy] Hutchinson also testified that there "were certain things that had potentially been left off" the Oval Office diary. [...] Additionally, she told the committee that she saw Meadows burn documents in his office fireplace around a dozen times -- about once or twice a week -- between December 2020 and mid-January 2021.

Source

mikeboltonshair,

“Eat memos *covered in Big Mac™️ sauce”

QHC,

I wonder why the prosecution team thought that was a “mistake”, or if it was intentionally included and then retracted? Maybe it’s standard language?

PeleSpirit,

I’m not a lawyer but my guess is that they didn’t want a court fight about it when their best reason was enough.

MorrisonMotel6,

The “standard language” thing sounds right to me. A lot of court filings templates and attorneys just plug in the facts for their particular submission.

Which unfortunately reminds me of Mad Libs, and now this is all getting pretty absurd in my head

ImplyingImplications,

Not a lawyer but lawyers write draft arguments and then choose the ones they think are the best. It’s possible they put the flight risk argument in a draft but ultimately decided to remove it, but then sent it out before actually removing it.

AFKBRBChocolate,

I think being under constant secret service protection would make it hard to flee the country. They’d have to go along with it.

QHC,

Is that mandatory? Pretty sure it’s a service offered to former Presidents, but Trump could probably just say no.

He hasn’t (and probably won’t) do that because he likes feeling important, and because he ain’t paying for their services.

AFKBRBChocolate,

They can refuse it. Trump would be too scared to.

hogunner,

I’ve been convinced for a while now that if Trump felt he was actually headed to jail his last desperate act would be to try to flee to North Korea to hide behind his crazy bestie Kim (who would absolutely love the drama of having an ex-POTUS as his puppet to parade around and try to shame the US with).

Godric,

Nah, he’d go for Russia. Not enough diet Coke or well done-steaks with ketchup for Donnie in NK.

hogunner,

I don’t doubt that Trump would want to go to Russia but Putin would never agree to that when he could have all the same benefits if Donnie was in NK and none of the negatives of having him in Russia. Kim is crazy enough that he wouldn’t care and would enjoy all the extra scrutiny and attention.

QHC,

Kim isn’t crazy. He was raised from birth believing he is the divine ruler of a people and received a modern education. He is acting in the best interests of the state he leads. It just happens that most of us on this platform likely live in a part of the world where those interests don’t make sense or are hard to see or just don’t seem important. But that’s an “us” problem.

His public persona in the West is a combination of propaganda from multiple angles, much like we see around Russia and China, too.

I’m not saying that he is a good leader or has the health of North Koreans in mind, but be aware that not everything you hear about living in North Korea is necessarily accurate (and not necessarily due to outside actors, either).

Daft_ish,

You’ve convinced me North Korea is a secret paradise. Booking a flight now.

QHC,

Where did I say that?

BCsven,

Anyone believing they are a divine ruler has delusions, and can’t operate in anyones best interest as he believes he has no peers

someguy3,

Maybe Saudi Arabia. Russia’s too cold.

QHC,

How long would Trump actually survive if he lived in North Korea? Do they have McDonalds and Diet Coke?

Daft_ish,

You do know that just because a country is poor doesn’t mean the upper crust can’t scrounge enough money to buy a cheese burger right?

macrocephalic,

Just look at Kim, does he look like a man who goes wanting?

Fixbeat,

Shit birds of a feather shit together.

thatguydude,

Shitwinds

MichaelScarn,

The shit apples don’t fall far from the shit tree

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