halfempty,
@halfempty@kbin.social avatar

I'm a progressive. I usually vote Democrat, because the Republicans are horrible. Pelosi represents everything I despise about the Democratic party establishment: serving the corporate billionaires, and blocking anything that helps working people. Sure there are many Democrats who I support, but Pelosi is NOT one of them!

CeruleanRuin,

Boy I was really hoping that headline had a different ending.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Why was it necessary to include her age in this headline?

LurkNoMore,

Because she’s a dinosaur and her age is very relevant to the situation.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“dinosaur”

That’s delusional talk

dhtseany,

She. Is. 83. Years. Old.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And?

LurkNoMore,

How the hell is it possible for her to be in touch with me a 40 something year old? How about those in their 20s? She doesn’t represent us nor have any idea what it’s like. It’s impossible.

How you think this is OK is insane!

freeman,

Because cognitive ability and reasoning declines with age after a certain point. Not sure what that point is but it’s definately in the 70s and 80s

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

a) are you a doctor b) that’s ageism not fact c) there’s plenty of 40 year olds in congress that are worse

vamp07,

People need to ask why incumbents almost always win even if there are so many valid reasons for them to move on. The answer is pretty simple. $$$

jray4559,
@jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Well, if you want her to stop being in Congress, you know what to do in the primaries.

IHaveTwoCows,

She is so corrupted and entrenched by the donor class that she does not even acknowledge the existence of primary challengers.

Serinus,

I’d vote against Pelosi in the primaries for the same reason I’d vote against Biden or Trump or McConnell or Feinstein in the primaries. They’re all too fucking old. The average age of the Senate is 64 years. The average age of the House of Representatives is 57 years.

Here’s every senator or congressperson age 68 or older.

State Senator Age Birthdate Party
Iowa Charles E. Grassley 89 9/17/33 R
California Dianne Feinstein 89 6/22/33 D
Vermont Bernie Sanders 81 9/8/41 I
Kentucky Mitch McConnell 80 2/20/42 R
Maryland Benjamin L. Cardin 79 10/5/43 D
Idaho Jim Risch 79 5/3/43 R
Illinois Richard J. Durbin 78 11/21/44 D
Maine Angus King 78 3/31/44 I
Massachusetts Edward J. Markey 76 7/11/46 D
Connecticut Richard Blumenthal 76 2/13/46 D
Utah Mitt Romney 75 3/12/47 R
Vermont Peter Welch 75 5/2/47 D
Hawaii Mazie K. Hirono 75 11/3/47 D
West Virginia Joe Manchin III 75 8/24/47 D
New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen 75 1/28/47 D
Delaware Thomas R. Carper 75 1/23/47 D
Rhode Island Jack Reed 73 11/12/49 D
Oregon Ron Wyden 73 5/3/49 D
Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren 73 6/22/49 D
Arkansas John Boozman 72 12/10/50 R
Michigan Debbie Stabenow 72 4/29/50 D
New York Charles E. Schumer 72 11/23/50 D
Washington Patty Murray 72 10/11/50 D
Mississippi Roger Wicker 71 7/5/51 R
Idaho Michael D. Crapo 71 5/20/51 R
Louisiana John Kennedy 71 11/21/51 R
Nebraska Deb Fischer 71 3/1/51 R
Colorado John Hickenlooper 70 2/7/52 D
Florida Rick Scott 70 12/1/52 R
Texas John Cornyn 70 2/2/52 R
Wyoming John Barrasso 70 7/21/52 R
Maine Susan Collins 70 12/7/52 R
Ohio Sherrod Brown 70 11/9/52 D
Tennessee Marsha Blackburn 70 6/6/52 R
West Virginia Shelley Moore Capito 69 11/26/53 R
New Jersey Bob Menendez 69 1/1/54 D
Virginia Mark Warner 68 12/15/54 D
Alabama Tommy Tuberville 68 9/18/54 R
Kansas Jerry Moran 68 5/29/54 R
Indiana Mike Braun 68 3/24/54 R
South Dakota Mike Rounds 68 10/24/54 R
Wyoming Cynthia Lummis 68 9/10/54 R
District Congressperson Age Birthdate Party
CA-31 Grace F. Napolitano 86 12/4/36 Democratic
DC-AL Eleanor Holmes Norton 85 6/13/37 Democratic
KY-05 Harold Rogers 85 12/31/37 Republican
NJ-09 Bill Pascrell Jr. 85 1/25/37 Democratic
CA-43 Maxine Waters 84 8/15/38 Democratic
MD-05 Steny H. Hoyer 83 6/14/39 Democratic
SC-06 James E. Clyburn 82 7/21/40 Democratic
CA-11 Nancy Pelosi 82 3/26/40 Democratic
IL-07 Danny K. Davis 81 9/6/41 Democratic
TX-31 John Carter 81 11/6/41 Republican
CA-16 Anna G. Eshoo 80 12/13/42 Democratic
FL-24 Frederica S. Wilson 80 11/5/42 Democratic
CT-03 Rosa DeLauro 79 3/2/43 Democratic
NC-05 Virginia Foxx 79 6/29/43 Republican
TX-12 Kay Granger 79 1/18/43 Republican
CA-07 Doris Matsui 78 9/25/44 Democratic
IL-09 Jan Schakowsky 78 5/26/44 Democratic
MO-05 Emanuel Cleaver II 78 10/26/44 Democratic
GA-13 David Scott 77 6/27/45 Democratic
IN-04 Jim Baird 77 6/4/45 Republican
NJ-12 Bonnie Watson Coleman 77 2/6/45 Democratic
CA-08 John Garamendi 77 1/24/45 Democratic
OH-09 Marcy Kaptur 76 6/17/46 Democratic
TX-37 Lloyd Doggett 76 10/6/46 Democratic
CA-12 Barbara Lee 76 7/16/46 Democratic
NC-12 Alma Adams 76 5/27/46 Democratic
MD-02 C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger 76 1/31/46 Democratic
TX-09 Al Green 75 9/1/47 Democratic
VA-03 Robert C. Scott 75 4/30/47 Democratic
GA-02 Sanford D. Bishop Jr. 75 2/4/47 Democratic
NY-12 Jerrold Nadler 75 6/13/47 Democratic
CA-18 Zoe Lofgren 75 12/21/47 Democratic
FL-08 Bill Posey 75 12/18/47 Republican
AS-AL Aumua Amata Coleman Radewagen 75 12/29/47 Republican
SC-02 Joe Wilson 75 7/31/47 Republican
MI-01 Jack Bergman 75 2/2/47 Republican
FL-22 Lois Frankel 74 5/16/48 Democratic
MS-02 Bennie Thompson 74 1/28/48 Democratic
OR-03 Earl Blumenauer 74 8/16/48 Democratic
CT-01 John B. Larson 74 7/22/48 Democratic
AZ-07 Raul M. Grijalva 74 2/19/48 Democratic
PA-16 Mike Kelly 74 5/10/48 Republican
TX-36 Brian Babin 74 3/23/48 Republican
MD-07 Kweisi Mfume 74 10/24/48 Democratic
NY-20 Paul Tonko 73 6/18/49 Democratic
TN-09 Steve Cohen 73 5/24/49 Democratic
OK-04 Tom Cole 73 4/28/49 Republican
TX-25 Roger Williams 73 9/13/49 Republican
MA-01 Richard E. Neal 73 2/14/49 Democratic
FL-11 Daniel Webster 73 4/27/49 Republican
ID-02 Mike Simpson 72 9/8/50 Republican
TX-29 Sylvia R. Garcia 72 9/6/50 Democratic
NV-01 Dina Titus 72 5/23/50 Democratic
OH-03 Joyce Beatty 72 3/12/50 Democratic
VA-11 Gerald E. Connolly 72 3/30/50 Democratic
WV-01 Carol Miller 72 11/4/50 Republican
TX-18 Sheila Jackson Lee 72 1/12/50 Democratic
TX-26 Michael C. Burgess 72 12/23/50 Republican
VA-08 Donald S. Beyer Jr. 72 6/20/50 Democratic
FL-16 Vern Buchanan 71 5/8/51 Republican
CA-04 Mike Thompson 71 1/24/51 Democratic
NJ-06 Frank Pallone Jr. 71 10/30/51 Democratic
WI-04 Gwen Moore 71 4/18/51 Democratic
MI-05 Tim Walberg 71 4/12/51 Republican
GA-12 Rick W. Allen 71 11/7/51 Republican
UT-04 Burgess Owens 71 8/2/51 Republican
CA-21 Jim Costa 70 4/13/52 Democratic
MA-09 William Keating 70 9/6/52 Democratic
FL-05 John Rutherford 70 9/2/52 Republican
CA-26 Julia Brownley 70 8/28/52 Democratic
CA-10 Mark DeSaulnier 70 3/31/52 Democratic
OR-02 Cliff Bentz 70 1/12/52 Republican
MO-03 Blaine Luetkemeyer 70 5/7/52 Republican
HI-01 Ed Case 70 9/27/52 Democratic
MI-06 Debbie Dingell 69 11/23/53 Democratic
CA-28 Judy Chu 69 7/7/53 Democratic
CA-41 Ken Calvert 69 6/8/53 Republican
NY-07 Nydia M. Velazquez 69 3/28/53 Democratic
TX-03 Keith Self 69 3/20/53 Republican
CA-48 Darrell Issa 69 11/1/53 Republican
CT-02 Joe Courtney 69 4/6/53 Democratic
NJ-02 Jeff Van Drew 69 2/23/53 Republican
NY-05 Gregory W. Meeks 69 9/25/53 Democratic
TX-14 Randy Weber 69 7/2/53 Republican
FL-02 Neal Dunn 69 2/16/53 Republican
SC-05 Ralph Norman 69 6/20/53 Republican
NJ-04 Christopher H. Smith 69 3/4/53 Republican
PA-03 Dwight Evans 68 5/16/54 Democratic
MI-13 Shri Thanedar 68 1/1/55 Democratic
OR-01 Suzanne Bonamici 68 10/14/54 Democratic
GA-04 Hank Johnson 68 10/2/54 Democratic
NY-13 Adriano Espaillat 68 9/27/54 Democratic
MN-04 Betty McCollum 68 7/12/54 Democratic
CA-32 Brad Sherman 68 10/24/54 Democratic
AL-06 Gary Palmer 68 5/14/54 Republican
FL-28 Carlos Gimenez 68 1/17/54 Republican
OH-06 Bill Johnson 68 11/10/54 Republican
3FingersOfMilk,

That’s… eye-opening

winterayars,

Pelosi in particular isn’t just old but is also showing some signs of seriously impaired memory at the least.

IHaveTwoCows,

Not the least of which is thinking that we’re being fooled by the hair

SpezBroughtMeHere,

The fucked up thing is that people are still gonna vote for her. No one cares about corruption or acrually having good political leaders, they just need their team to win like it’s some kind of stupid sport.

Huxley75,

Blues and Greens…just like the Byzantines

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Because there is no corruption. Right wing conspiracy theories aren’t fact

winterayars,

There’s corruption. The whole system is corrupt and Pelosi is a whirlwind of corruption. Does not make right wing conspiracy theories any more correct, though.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“the whole system is corrupt”

Take off your tinfoil

merc,

Or they know how important it is that the Republicans not win.

It’s not just about keeping score and keeping points for the red team. The blue team is currently fighting for white supremacy, christian supremacy, male supremacy, and to change the rules to make any other political party irrelevant.

If someone as wonderful as Mr. Rogers ran against Nancy Pelosi, but that person said he’d vote with his Republican colleagues on every important issue, his own personal qualities wouldn’t matter. He personally might not lie, cheat or steal, but he’d be supporting a party that openly does all those things.

It sucks, but when it’s a first-past-the-post system with 2 major parties, you mostly have to hold your nose and vote against the greater evil.

oldbaldgrumpy,

Can both the right and left agree to start electing people in their 40s or 50s for a change?

OrteilGenou,

Holy crap when I saw the headline at first I thought it was an obit

some_guy,

I’m in her district. This has given me a possibly-crazy idea. What if I registered to run against her? Hear me out.

I don’t think that I could win. She’s been in the game for so long, I have no illusions. But, registering and announcing a campaign to challenge her might result in some national publication contacting me for a quote. I might be able to get a line in said publication and get people talking about it.

“Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”

I’d appreciate feedback on the value of doing something like this. Also, the likelihood that it would have the desired outcome. Also, thoughts on how this might be done.

I’ve been kicking this idea around since this morning when I first saw this. I’m increasingly thinking that it sounds like a good idea. Thoughts?

OrteilGenou,

Here’s what you do, announce that you’re running, say your peace, and when you’re surfing that publicity wave, announce that you’re running for governor of California. No flaw!

ArgentRaven,

I think the local DNC would have to “allow” it. Otherwise you’d run as something-other-than-Democratic.

But all it would cost you is time, and maybe a small filling fee to find out.

I say, go for it! It would at least shake up the geriatric incumbents a bit.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

The local DNC could potentially work against you but they can’t stop you from running in the primary as long as you meet the requirements.

ArgentRaven,

Awesome, that’s good to know! I just assumed they picked if there would be competition due to how some Republicans threatened to “primary” incumbents that didn’t fall in line.

Strawberry,

have you heard of Shahid Buttar

some_guy,

Apparently, I had. The first two links on a search had already been visited. That’s discouraging. Thanks!

odbol,

He had a good platform too; a true leftist planning for the future of AI, UBI, etc. She just straight out refused to debate him. Then she ran a smear PR campaign on him just to be sure

Kit,

We need a competitor. Please do it.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

Do it! As one of the most notable Democrats alive it’d be a near impossible task to unseat her, but maybe you get 20% of the vote and that’s not a terrible result. After that maybe someone more notable like a Mayor or state rep would run and maybe win. Shoot your shot!

tallwookie,

“Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”

shit, do it - why not? gotta say, that’d be a really good political platform.

BonesOfTheMoon,

Do it!

Astroturfed,

I wish you would. Get your friends to do it too… “Nancy Pelosi Faces a Dozen Primary Challengers” might draw some more attention.

CeruleanRuin,

“Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”

Don’t stop with her. Make your platform about Glitch McConnell, Dianne “The Wraith” Feinstein, Chuck “Touch” Grassley, and every other member of Congress who can’t even claim to be a boomer because they were born before the end of WW2. Their generation built the America we have now; how’s it working out for y’all?

merc,

Running in such a prominent campaign would probably make your life suck. Pelosi’s seasoned team would probably go through your entire life with a fine-toothed comb and spin anything remotely negative about you to make it seem like you were a serial killer. The Republicans, meanwhile, might throw money into supporting you without caring if you wanted their “help” just to make Pelosi’s life hell.

There are probably already real challengers who actually want the job who you could support instead. If you donated to them and volunteered for them, they might make enough noise to at least get some headlines. And, you wouldn’t have to stick your own neck out.

RememberTheApollo_,

Skeksis need to retire, not collapse into dust while holding on to the royal scepter.

Noscharhar,

The land is dying, and the Skeksis continue to drain its life force

Smacks,
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

Oh fuck off with the dinosaurs

Flashoflight,

We need to shut down this senior center. I’m tired of this. Let’s get some fresh ideas in this place.

pyromaniac_donkey,

Die you fucking ugly zombie looking son of a bitch. Hope all your folks die from painful cancer

Kit,

Damn bro calm down, that level of hate against any human is concerning. I absolutely think she should be voted out and go enjoy her retirement, but wishing that level of ill upon another person is worrying.

atempuser23,

Oh for fucks sake!

pyromaniac_donkey,

Thatll be 6000 Billion dollars to Israel, +tips of course.

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