thatsage,
@thatsage@lemmy.world avatar

Lol how to convince someone exactly the opposite of what you want

NathanielThomas,

Ask! (Whether borderline slavery is for you)

CitizenKong, (edited )

There’s no guarantee you will get more money! Get the same money or less guaranteed instead!

orphiebaby,

“Get informed”

Bold of you to tell people to do something that dangerous, Amazon.

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Obviously that image is of a manager, you can tell by its over confident and under qualified stance.

sederx,

Also what’s the point of getting informed if the last step is saying no? xD

0x2d,

🖕

possiblylinux127, (edited )

There are some serious issues with unions. For instance sometimes workers are tricked into signing papers that allow the union to have control over the worker. I’m not condoning Amazon but to say Unions aren’t always great.

As always you should make up your own mind

Apollo,

Fuck off Jeff

venoft,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

What kind of fucked up unions do you have there? Unions are there to help the worker by negotiating better pay, vacation days, etc. It’s like your local political representative that actually does things you want and gives you money when you’re on strike.

sederx,

That’s a lie

Gorgeous_Sloth,

I’m from France where unions are kinda everywhere and workers rights well protected : what the hell is this ? Is it real ?

loie,

Can’t say if this particular one is real but this definitely tracks in the USA. I’ve worked for companies that have mandatory meetings where anti union consultants will play out this kind of propaganda in real time.

LemmyRefugee,

In Spain it’s mandatory to have unions for companies with at least 10 employees.

dingus, (edited )

Dunno if this image specifically is real, but anti-union stuff is common in the US.

I worked this one job where a couple of the employees tried to unionize. It had gotten far enough where there was going to be a vote.

Well the company sent this snake woman around that personally gave almost everyone one on one talks to convince them that unions are bad and they should vote “no” on unionizing.

For some reason none of my coworkers took even a second to wonder why the company was so hell bent on getting everyone to vote “no” that they set up one on one personal meetings with some random anti-union lady.

Yeah, enough people voted “no” that we didn’t get to unionize…


The one other thing I will say that was a bit baffling was that at a prior job I was working minimum wage and it had a union where I had to pay union dues. Wtf was the union doing where I was making less than minimum wage?? Not much apparently.

WeirdGoesPro,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s real. Welcome to America! We rebrand the idea of slavery every 100 years or so to great success!

alex,

Fellow French - wait until you realize their unions only apply to one company and not a whole industry so they can’t actually do anything on a large scale. This broke me.

Chunk,

Boss: kids your age are so incredibly arrogant. You think you deserve the world.

Me: we are the same age.

Boss: huh

This actually happened.

KiLlEr10312,
@KiLlEr10312@lemmy.world avatar

People really out here thinking that if you’re a supervisor you just get like 20 years older lmao

GiddyGap,

Typically must go through union instead of your supervisor or manager

Major plus in my book.

Garbanzo,

Very major, especially because it goes both ways. Hey Manager, if you got a problem with me take it up with my union rep.

MoonRaven,
@MoonRaven@feddit.nl avatar

Disgusting.

Chunk,

I don’t understand why everyone at corporate Amazon is fine with this. I am a white collar corporate sell out asshole and I support unions 100% of the time, full stop.

norgur,
@norgur@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Wait… are they saying that I could have sent my employees to the Union instead of endless discussions about next year’s pto distribution? Could you not have said that sooner?!

m3t00,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

dues were paying a couple lawyers to make sure company followed the law and own rules. mgmt is usually jealous of union pay. except upper mgmt(profit sharing) typically union will give better advice in any disputes.

Mandy,

Wait so…having to go through your supervisor and manager is listed as a plus??? america or not, aint noone likes going through that, usually

jimbo,
  1. The amount paid for dues is greatly exceeded by the benefits of having a union.
  2. You ARE guaranteed pay, benefits, and rules because you have a contract with the employer that covers those things.
  3. Are these morons suggesting that the union will take over for management?
ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Are these morons suggesting that the union will take over for management?

That’d be a great reason to unionize

Redderthanmisty, (edited )

IWW has entered the chat

Kimano,

No the usual ‘argument’ that references is that it you have a complaint or preference or comment or whatever about your work or job duties, you have to bring it to your union rep, rather than talk directly with your employers management. Somehow that’s supposed to be an argument against unions.

Schadrach,

Are these morons suggesting that the union will take over for management?

Some unions make disciplinary processes and who can be terminated under what conditions part of the contract. In the worst cases this creates a scenario where bad workers are functionally impossible to fire and the people there actually trying to get their work done have to deal with it, because the bad apple hasn’t been written up for identical violations on at least 3 different dates in the last 90 days, then been provided with explicit written directions of how not to do what they’ve been doing in a meeting with management and the union rep, then given another month before reevaluating if they’ve corrected the issue, then suspending them if they haven’t, then doing the whole process over again before being allowed to fire them. Passing the improvement plan evaluation resets the whole thing. Presuming what they’re doing isn’t an immediate risk of injury or death, that is (that has an expedited process).

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )
@ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de avatar

I sharpened the QR code. It reads:

www.unpackjfk8.com

Very surprised they didn’t put ?campaign=qr, /qr or other such crap in it to measure its effectiveness as opposed to the printed URL.

(Saved you a click: domain is on sale, not used after 2022. Archive)

Tum,

Someone should hijack the QR code by strategically filling in back squares with a sharpie and have it point to a pro union URL

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )
@ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de avatar

That’s just barely possible:

  1. Be ready to register a domain that’s off by 1 character. Generate a list of such domains from http://www.0npackjfk8.com/ to http://www.unpackjfkz.com.
  2. Use an advanced, preferrably command-line QR generator that not only allows changing the size (version) or error correction mode but also the mask pattern. Match these parameters to the original code.
  3. Verify that the generator and settings work correctly by regenerating the original code.
  4. Check that when you change a character, only 1 byte in the content part (right of the QR code) and the error correction changes.
  5. Generate QR codes with varying domain names. Increase error correction as much as possible as long as it doesn’t change the layout of where each character is.
  6. Using ImageMagick, overlay each newly generated QR code with the original using the min / max function (depending if the colors are inverted).
  7. Put each result into a QR scanner. Only a handful of the circa 380 codes will scan, about half of which to the original and the other half to the edited URL. Of the latter half, manually check which is the easiest to scan.
  8. If none work well enough, repeat the process but with 2 changed characters per domain.

Why go through the trouble instead of printing a sticker?

Tum,

I’ll admit ignorance to the complexity involved, I had just thought that a sharpie would be less conspicuous than a bag full of QR code stickers if management were to search employees which I believe they do in amazon warehouses. Also the communicability of it, being able to tell others in different warehouses “fill in these squares on the QR code” rsther than distribution of stickers.

Thanks for the in depth reply about feasibility of it though, very interesting!

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