holiday,

Misery loves company

Tb0n3,

Only rational if you’re the last person in line and not moving doesn’t spill people out of the designated waiting ropes.

bric,

It’s still rational if you don’t care about those people though

RedditRefugee69,

Willful denial of the feelings of others is irrational in itself. Everything you know about humanity should lead you to believe that others have feelings too

Mikelius,

“Why? Because fuck ‘em. That’s why” turns out is not a rational mind set.

Aceticon,

She’s counting on people behind her not doing the rational thing which would be ignoring her and just passing her if there’s lot of empty room in front of her.

bric, (edited )

I guess it depends on your definition of “rational”. From a pure logic perspective (i.e. the math definition) being rational just means making optimal choices in pursuit of your goals. I can be perfectly rational, understand that others have feelings, and simply not care about them unless they benefit me. Being perfectly rational basically makes you a sociopath, only considering other factors or people when they further your goals. Emotions and feelings are irrational to begin with, but sometimes it’s better to be a little bit irrational

Draces,

This was a rough read. The leap to think it’s purely rational to be entirely selfish is absurd. You need help from other people to function in society. It’s also entirely logical and rational to benefit the group. Being selfish is not “purely mathematically logical”. That’s just being dumb and selfish. Are you going to steal from your coworker because you benefit from it or are logical enough to look a couple steps further and see helping them so they help you benefits both of you far more? There’s tradeoffs for sure but sociopaths aren’t just too rational

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  • Draces,

    Uh what did you even read what I said? You’re not addressing anything I said. And you can’t just make up your own definition for a word that definitely has one. Quick search, Oxford dictionary says rational: based on or in accordance with reason or logic. Which being purely selfish absolutely is not for my previously mentioned reasons you’re ignoring. You can’t just redefine a word to suite your argument

    Edit: this funny since you keep mentioning mathematics:

    MATHEMATICS (of a number, quantity, or expression) expressible, or containing quantities that are expressible, as a ratio of whole numbers. When expressed as a decimal, a rational number has a finite or recurring expansion.

    hglman,

    Feelings are not rational or not; they are a state and part of the deduction you’re calling logic. Your description of following reason as being sociopathic is wrong. What you are describe is being over-biased to your wants. Nothing about logic says it’s ideal to live only for yourself. Any suggestion of what you should use sense for is arbitrary.

    Laticauda, (edited )

    I think you’re just fundamentally misunderstanding what being rational means. There is nothing inherently rational in being selfish or only caring about your own goals and what benefits you, especially not when you are a member of a species that evolved to be extremely social and community focused. Emotions and feelings aren’t inherently irrational either. They can certainly be expressed in irrational ways, but they themselves are neither rational or irrational. They’re just a fact of nature. You might as well say it’s irrational for living creatures to have to excrete waste. Sure, it may be irrational to take a piss on your boss right before asking for a raise, but the act of taking a piss is not in itself rational or irrational. It’s just a bodily function. So if you refuse to take that factor into consideration because you claim it’s irrational, well that’d just be ridiculous.

    Imagine a teacher refusing to let a student get up to go to the bathroom because they claim it’s irrational to need to take a piss, and therefore perfectly rational to force them to stay where they are and ignore their bodily needs. The teacher is being selfish in that situation, only making optimal choices in pursuit of their own goals (to teach the class without interruption), and doesn’t care about the other person’s need to perform bodily functions unless it benefits them. And yet I think most people with even half a brain cell will agree that the teacher in this scenario is not in any way shape or form acting rationally. They’re just being a dickhead.

    Sociopaths aren’t more rational than other people or “too rational”, they lack the ability to feel empathy or they only feel a small amount of empathy but not enough to affect their decisions. It has nothing to do with being rational or logical, sociopaths can often be very stupid irrational people. Not to mention, while sociopaths often don’t care about how other people feel, they do often care about how other people perceive them.

    RagingRobot,

    You don’t care about the people behind you inline but you still care enough about the people in front of you to wait behind them? Weird lol

    Laticauda,

    Rationality doesn’t exclude emotions or empathy. That’s just being literal, not rational.

    fsxylo,

    Why take less space when can take more?

    riodoro1,

    Kevin took that advice to heart

    Kiruko,

    I nearly wet myself laughing

    _sideffect,

    Does she think this way at the bottom of an escalator? Stupidity

    BaroqueInMind,
    @BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

    Escalators are still stairs, and drives me mad when people simply stand still on them. So do they expect the same shit when they get home and stand at the bottom of their stairwell?

    SexyTimeSasquatch,

    Escalators are moving stairs that can suck you into the gears underneath and turn you into ground meat if you get caught in the teeth at the end of them. Doesn’t surprise me that people are hesitant to walk on them as you’re much more likely to trip and fall walking on stairs vs standing. Better to let them safely carry you up or down, then safely step off at the end.

    amphetaminisiert,

    She could be completely depressed and just takes life like it is. Shitty all the way down.

    GreenPlasticSushiGrass,
    @GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social avatar

    Stand right, walk left is the pinnacle of civil society when it comes to escalators.

    Godnroc,

    It also causes increased wear due to most of the weight being unbalanced on one side.

    PapaStevesy,

    Then they should redesign them appropriately.

    ReadyUser31,

    I’ll be honest if standing still at the bottom of my stairs at home eventually took me to the top I’d do it.

    PapaStevesy,

    So do they expect the same shit when they get home and stand at the bottom of their stairwell?

    No, because, unlike yourself apparently, they have the capacity for reason.

    BaroqueInMind, (edited )
    @BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

    It's unreasonable to walk up or down some fucking stairs?

    PapaStevesy,

    It’s unreasonable to think that people who stand on escalators also stand on stairs and wait for them to move. Not only do you not understand my comment, you don’t even understand your own. Good luck out there!

    Fisk400,

    Escalators are a form of elevator and not stairs. They were put there because stairs would be to long or too steep for stairs and a traditional elevator has less capacity. I also believe that the general recommendation is that you don’t walk in elevators because it creates a significant amount of risk of accidents while saving an insignificant amount of time.

    BaroqueInMind,
    @BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

    Thank you for your great reply, but without providing sources to your claims, I'm going to assume you're simply talking out of your ass and spreading misinformation.

    Fisk400, (edited )

    nytimes.com/…/escalators-standing-or-walking.html

    This article makes it clear that standing on both sides of the escalator increases general flow of people though the escalator and when they ask the company managing the new york escalators they say that it is their recommendation that people stand on the escalator because that is safer.

    In conclusion, standing on elevators is both faster and safer.

    Is there anything else you want to know, you smug cunt?

    discusseded,
    STUPIDVIPGUY,

    I’m not surprised you’re downvoted because 90% of people stand lazily on escalators from my experience. But you and I know better.

    If walking up a flight of stairs is too difficult that you have to let the motors do all the work then maybe you should think about getting more exercise

    Some people say ‘stand right, walk left’ but that doesn’t work in america because people are not only too dense but also too fat for that to work. So if you stand still, you’re in the way

    I know I’m being condescending but idc so downvote me all you want.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Where are you in America that people are so fat that you can’t get past them on an escalator? Because I’m in Indiana, home of the giant deep-fried pork tenderloin, and people aren’t that fat here.

    TimewornTraveler,

    not all disabilities are visible

    dont moralize your shit. you wanna walk fine. dont go writing a fucking bible about it lol

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    How dare you tell me how to have fun!

    slipperydippery,

    Hyper rational in one dimension of thought.

    jesterraiin,

    Well, she obviously doesn’t carry a trebuchet in her backpack, or 50 pounds of Columbian coke up her ass, like I do on every flight.

    Spur4383,

    She is leaving Buenos Aires through Ezeiza, si she might be doing one of those…

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