MisterFrog,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Psychologists after the pandemic: that’ll be $250 AUD out of pocket after the Medicare rebate.

Me: Yeah I’d rather be depressed and anxious than pay that once every 2 weeks thanks 👍

arirr,

Why have 3 mental health and no monies, when I can have no mental health and 3 monies!? taps head

A_Random_Idiot,

Shrug.

It is what it is.

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ll be right…

callouscomic,

The few times in my life I’ve been to therapy or counseling on times at very different ages in my life for wildly different reasons, it’s interesting that every single time, it amounted to them nicely asking me to let it go. Just stop letting whatever IT is affect you. Thanks asshole. How is that a fucking career?

A_Random_Idiot, (edited )

Better than my experiences.

Which involved one laughing at me, and telling me to stop being silly and be serious when I was being serious.

and the other one being a christnut that, in their christlike duty, decided to bilk me for a few thousand dollars before telling me I needed to go to church and submit to jesus, because being a godless heathen was why i had my problems.

edit.

Not tryin to gate keep ya or play who has the best misery, to be clear. Just sympathizing.

shplane,

openpathcollective.org provides a long list of therapists that work on an affordable, sliding scale. I know it’s just a meme, but if you think you would benefit in any way, please seek support for your mental health

MonkeMischief,

There’s a lot of evidence that modern CBT therapy just doesn’t really connect with men very well. Mainly because we don’t really tend to solve problems by “considering more gratitude” or “trying yoga at sunrise maybe?” (Was a legit suggestion when I had a therapist lol)

Men tend to want practical steps and solutions to things. And there isn’t a whole lot of practical solutions one person can try to repair the effects of an increasingly alienating society and collapsing socioeconomic structures.

Therapists can be very helpful, and by all means you should definitely try to find a good one.

But sadly when you realize a lot of your issues are circumstantial and practical though, things like “Well I’m depressed and anxious because I feel everything is out of my control, like layoffs and rent hikes.”…

…Sometimes it feels like the prevalent training and methodology seems to say “Well that sounds like a you problem.”

There’s a really good podcast about this called “It’s Not Just In Your Head”

And a YouTube guy “Dr. K” (actually a doctor btw) who runs a channel called "HealthyGamerGG.

The topic is definitely worth analysis and discussion, why therapy isn’t working for men in particular, as it’s often swept under the rug as just “Men being stubborn and toxic” or whatever, but there is a lot more at play here.

We need to make sure men are heard and cared for, before they get warped by all the “alpha grind real man” grifters that understand how they work, and use it for malicious means.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing wrong with me that a million dollars or two wouldn’t fix.

dumpsterlid, (edited )

“trying yoga at sunrise maybe?”

Shitty half assed suggestion but for real one of the original big motivations of yoga is that a lot of people struggle with meditating and “just clearing their mind”. Yoga isn’t just about physical strength and flexibility, it is also about providing a very direct physical practice to make the process of mentally reaching a meditative state easier.

I think it is a great compliment to therapy since in therapy you can talk about how best to rewire negative thought processes into positive ones and in yoga you can practice actually doing that while getting some good moderate exercise.

AutistoMephisto, (edited )

Mainly because we don’t really tend to solve problems by “considering more gratitude” or “trying yoga at sunrise maybe?”

I feel like at some point all the therapists, at least Western ones, got together and decided that instead of helping men with practical advice and solutions, they would offer help that while being far less practical, would, at least hopefully, in some small way, make them feel a smidge bit better about the problems.

Will yoga at sunrise fix the issues? No. Will it help you feel better about them? That’s the hope. Because, unfortunately, a lot of issues are outside of our control, so the modern therapy approach seems to be centered on getting patients to focus more on the things within their control, like how the things outside of their control make them feel.

SanndyTheManndy,

I doubt cock and ball torture would be well-received by many men.

Iceblade02,

Oh man, I can second HealthyGamerGG. Decent tips and aside from that also a pleasant fellow all around (at least that’s how he comes off in his vids)

snek,

There’s a lot of evidence that modern CBT therapy just doesn’t really connect with men very well. Mainly because we don’t really tend to solve problems by “considering more gratitude” or “trying yoga at sunrise maybe?” (Was a legit suggestion when I had a therapist lol)

Source?

I’m asking because this sounds nothing like CBT that I did. I’m a woman, but it was gut-wrenching and scary to do exposure therapy. Nothing at all about yoga or gratitude… sounds more like traditional talk therapy to me.

I would give CBT a chance, honestly… I feel like you have some kind of misinformed opinion or maybe had a crappy therapist.

annoyedcamel,

I decided to start taking shrooms regularly. Works for me. YMMV.

dfc09,

I’m going to my second session in a few hours :)

After a few years in jobs where violence is expected and treated as “bad ass”, I’m finally seeing how my exposure to it has frayed my sense of self.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

hey sometimes your chest just feels like there’s a great weight crushing you crushing you from above and the walls are closing in and you’re scared and you just sit there stupidly not wanting to make a fuss but knowing absolutely knowing that this is it this is how it all ends–oh and then it kind of passes and you get back on shift and get in trouble for being slow, but it’s alright at least you’re alive

andrew_bidlaw,

‘So it goes’.

mossy_,

getting Ray Bradbury vibes from this comment

andrew_bidlaw,

You might misremembering it, as it’s more akin to Kurt Vonegut. This phrase is frequently used in his Slaughterhouse-Five, one of my favorite pieces of fiction.

mossy_,

Dang, I was misremembering it. It’s been a while since I read Slaughterhouse 5

Mr_Blott,

The rest of the world -

“You guys go to therapy?!?”

tillary,

Therapist: you need to focus less on the things that are outside of your control, and come to accept the fact that there are some things you just can’t change.

Me: crying you mean some things just be what they be?

Zipitydew,

It do

Plopp,

That’ll be $1.000

mack7400,

Meh, fist-size drywall repair kits are cheaper.

Crashumbc,

$1,000

(For the US folks)

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

I have seen several therapists both individually and in a group setting, and the therapist's approach can range from "why don't you try to cater to everyone else's insecurities all of the time instead of standing up for yourself in a constructive way" to actual support that can lead to change. It isn't a perfect solution and can require trying more than one therapist to find one that actually listens and helps if you want to actually fix something instead of just someone to listen to you complain.

They were all ridiculously expensive and only one was actually helpful. Heck, the successful one ended with less frequent sessions and then ending with a plan to schedule if needed. I can see why someone who only had experience with the other approaches wouldn't want to waste money on not resolving anything.

In my limited experience the therapists who were men actually acknowledged issues and tried to resolve them, which makes a bit of sense as therapists come from the same society where women frequently want to just be heard and men want to do things because that is how they are raised.

Aceticon,

When I was living in the UK I did therapy, and after many years of doing it I was still a wanker, but at least I had learned to accept it.

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