corytheboyd,
@corytheboyd@kbin.social avatar

Blue Cheese is the IPA of cheese. It has a lot of “flavor” which makes you think it’s “good” but… is it? It’s good, but not slap-your-own-mother amazingly life changing. I used to love it, but got tired of being punched in the face, and started to appreciate subtlety way more. Same with beers. I still like an IPA occasionally, if it’s of a higher quality, not just WE FUCKED ONE MILLION HOPS INTO THIS. It’s the same bullshit with “truffles”. Not really that good, thrown onto cheap garbage food to mark it up by $10. Again, the good, real truffles, are actually quite nice (and hard to come by for obvious reasons).

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

IPA is a great comparison (and I hate how “IPA” has become synonymous with “beer”). I like blue cheese, but I agree it can quickly overwhelm. I prefer to go easy with it in recipes. For salad dressings I prefer the ones that are toned down a bit.

LaSaucisseMasquee,

I think you don’t have proper cheese available.

Gimly,

I don’t find blue cheese so strong. Some are, and they can become too strong if they are a bit old, but they can also be very delicate. There are also way stronger and more in your face cheese than blue cheese.

owen,

Totally agree. Not to mention that blue cheese is typically eaten in small quantities

ElderWendigo,

The comparison with IPAs is apt. For me an IPA is really only suitable when it balances the flavors of some other food. But, let’s be honest. People aren’t getting IPAs for the hops. They’re getting IPAs for the higher ABV. And, while I love blue cheese I never sit down and just eat it alone like I could disappear a block of aged cheddar. Blue cheese is always better when it balances the flavors of other foods like bacon, dates, cured meats, buffalo wings, cauliflower, salads, etc.

Truffle oil on the other hand might as well be snake oil. Truffle oil is never authentic, it’s just flavored oil. Just give me some damn mushrooms and if truffles aren’t available find another good mushroom and stop trying to make it an oil.

psud,

People get IPAs even when they’re normal strength

ElderWendigo,

Facetious - adjective treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.

That part of the comment was facetious.

psud,

Maybe. But it used to be more true, back when IPA meant strong and bitter, and other terms were used for the high flavour beers

isthingoneventhis,

I respect your opinion but I hate that you’ve done this to me. I hate IPA (mainly because it’s fucking everywhere now) but love blue cheese.

SocialMediaRefugee,

Don’t eat moldy bread but eat moldy cheese.

dejected_warp_core,

That’s nothing. There are even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_martzu cheeses out there.

Also aspergillus is used in the production of ricewine and sake. Moldy food is all over the place.

dantheclamman,
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

I had forgotten that the larvae jump. For some reason that makes it so, so much worse to me. If I were to eat an arthropod-originating cheese I would probably prefer to try mite cheese.

dantheclamman,
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

Penicillium roqueforti is our friend! Unless it’s in grain, then it makes toxic compounds and causes spoilage. So it’s our frenemy.

dangblingus,

You can’t eat a big bite of it. That’s a rookie move. Just a little bit on a triscuit, maybe some mustard or salami with it, fucking mint.

xuniL,

Cranberries are awesome with it

dangblingus,

Damnnn. I’m about to go get some stilton and cranberries right after work now.

dantheclamman,
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

I am a blue cheese veteran and I would literally eat a big bite. it’s so good. gimme the mold

Psychonaut1969,
@Psychonaut1969@kbin.social avatar

Wait until you find out about Koji and how soy sauce is made.

MudMan,
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

Wine is spoiled grapes, all cheese is just milk you left out for so long it got dry and sausages are what happens when you disembowel a pig and stuff its guts with its own minced ass. Today I ate a thing that looks like the first draft of an Aliens facehugger they rejected for being too spiky.

People buy food so processed they forget we're just gross hungry animals just putting random things in their mouths to see if it keeps them alive for a bit.

Lemjukes,

“Cheese is just milk gone off big time styly.” - Stephen Fry

Pipoca,

Sausages are also commonly inoculated with mold. The powdery coating on aged salami is Penicillium nalgiovense.

And some of the fanciest, most expensive wines are made from moldy grapes. Botrytis cinerea, when consistently wet and humid, causes “grey rot” which spoils the grapes. When it dries out, though, it becomes the “noble rot” which is prized.

MudMan,
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

Absolutely, if you've ever made the types of sausages for cold cuts at home it's very obvious. People think the white powdery thing is just cool packaging (and to be fair in ultraprocessed crap it can be), but nope, that stuff is transparent when you get started.

Also, the "transparent stuff"? Disemboweled guts. I mean, the mold should be the least of your concerns if you're going by gross-out factor.

Sanyanov,

Fun part is, Aspergillus oryzae (fungi used to make koji) can develop into dangerous strains that release heavy toxins able to easily paralyze an adult forever.

Psychonaut1969,
@Psychonaut1969@kbin.social avatar

This is one if the reasons they say not to try making your own spores and to restart batches with commercially purchased spores. One of the things people do with it is fast age steaks over 24 hours at room temp by growing a layer of it on the steaks surface (moldy steaks). Also isnt Aspirgillus is a mold not a fungi?

Sanyanov,

Mold is a structure formed by some fungi. Mold is always fungal.

reverendsteveii,

blue cheese has mold in it

you have shit in you.

slampisko,

Yea but I rarely eat it

continuum,

I appreciate your honesty.

postmateDumbass,

How did the surgury to remove your colon and both intestines go, Mr. Walter “Shitfree” Malone?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, come to the mold cult, it’s worth it.

datelmd5sum,

I’ve grown to like a lot of tastes I’ve previously hated. Salted herring, olives, strong cheeses, whiskey… but moldy cheese is never going to happen. My body autonomously removes the piece of moldy food from my mouth and attempts to also empty my stomach just in case.

Chetzemoka,

You could actually have an allergy. I met one other person who had a mold allergy that was cross reactive with blue cheeses, and had a similar reaction to them

EatYouWell,

That definitely sounds like an allergic reaction to me.

psud,

And people are allergic to penicillin, which is that fungus, but super purified (as caffeine pills are to coffee, but more so)

RHTeebs,
@RHTeebs@startrek.website avatar

I’m looking at you, Buffalo.

Sanyanov,

To all of you cheese lovers: this is your Penicillium roqueforti, blue cheese mold, in a microbiology lab. Bon appetit

colour-online-Penicillium-roqueforti-from-potato-dextrose-agar-PDA

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not really the same thing, though. I also wouldn’t lick bacteria out of a petri dish, but I’ll happily eat yoghurt and sourdough bread.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

I am totally licking it.

Kolgeirr,

Hell yeah that looks delicious, throw that on a steak and lets eat.

Enk1,

Wait til you hear what’s in the pills they give you when you’ve got a bacterial infection. It’s gonna blow your mind

Sanyanov,

Most of simple antibiotics are of fungal nature, yes

Using life against itself.

marx2k,

Stop. I can only get so hard.

MudMan,
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

You didn't need to go to all the trouble, if you let some bread out in a humid place you'll get it all over it as well.

Still delicious.

Sanyanov,

Yeah, moldy bread will do (though it can contain some more nasty stuff as well)

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

Cheese doesn't sound that great when you think of it as milk that's been left in a cave for a year and infested with bacteria

peto,

Aged like milk has a lot less impact if you are good at it.

IrateAnteater,

“Aged like milk” can mean anything from “so awful it’s literally illegal” to “so good people will pay unreasonable amounts of money”.

Sagifurius,

That’s not what cheese is, generally. Blue cheese is that though. Cheese is converted into a solid form in the kitchen the first day, then aged.

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

How is that not what cheese is? As far as I understand, every cheese uses a bacterial culture, mesophilic or thermophilic. Blue cheese is different because it also has a fungal culture. But sure, usually it's put in on purpose when the cheese is made, not something that comes from the environment.

Sagifurius,

Traditionally is done by heating, separating and the introduction of rennet, which is an enzyme from calf guts that converts milk into a solid form that a herbivore can digest. This relates to why cows milk kills human infants and kittens but they can survive on goats. Cheese basically dates from ancient times when everyone was lactose intolerant but some farmer noticed how calves digest milk.

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

I have made some simple cheeses before and learned about rennet so i can feed vegetarians. Then what is this page about? It seems every common type of cheese has a bacterial culture.
https://www.thecheesemaker.com/blog/cheese-cultures-explained-everything-you-need-to-know/

LolaCat,
Aragaren,

Blue cheese mold is a banger!

youtu.be/HmadzQ1uL0s?si=WUJ3_-shyZ_4d_qT

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

OMG, you’re eating bread? Don’t you know that’s made with the same stuff that infects vaginas?!

funkless_eck,

you mean my cousin Joel?

supercriticalcheese,

Maybe is he a baker?

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Blue cheese is delicious though! Especially with hot wings!

IrateAnteater,

Or on a burger. Especially on a pepper crusted burger along with sauteed mushrooms.

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Dang, now you’re making me hungry 🤤

CalamityBalls,
@CalamityBalls@kbin.social avatar

I've yet to find a burger that's better than just caramelised onions, blue cheese, and quality beef. I might add a leafy something out of arterial guilt, but I can't say it improves anything.

XbSuper,

Bacon, that burger needs bacon.

blanketswithsmallpox,

So you’re telling me for it to be edible it has to be on something that’s completely delicious on its own…

Also that’s still a hard pass. Even on the burger which is more of the same lol.

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Nope. What I said was it’s especially delicious with hot wings.

I can’t speak for everyone, but it’s been my experience that people don’t tend to just hunker down and eat a block of cheese by itself. Most cheeses are meant to go with something else, unless you’re Charlie Kelly getting ready for a big date.

blanketswithsmallpox,

I mean… tell that to every person who eats a pinch full of cheese any time they open a shredded bag…

Or fuck some up on a snack board. (I suppose that’s loosely with something else.)

But good cheese is definitely able to just be sliced and ate on the spot. Just make sure it’s off the block and BAM.

Blue cheese though? I’ll leave the stank foot blue waffle cheese to y’all.

ChronosWing,

Nope, it’s perfectly delicious all by itself.

prunerye,

I like to add a tiny dab to ginger snap cookies.

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds absurd but I kinda want to try it now lol

Enk1,

Stuff raspberries with it. 🔥

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