Aceticon,

I got mine originally from TV, as in my country everything is subtitled, so that means I ended up with an americanized accent (it isn’t really an “american” accent because there is no such things as an american accents but rather several).

It was of course poluted by my own native language (portuguese, from Lisbon) accent.

Then I went and lived in The Netherlands for almost a decade so my accent started adding dutch “effects” (like a “yes” that sounds more like “ya”, similar to the dutch “ja”).

And after that I lived for over a decade in England, so my accent moved a lot towards the English RP accent. In fact I can either do my lazy accent (which is the mix of accents I have) or pull it towards a pretty decent English RP accent if needed for clarity.

By this point I can actually do several English Language accents, though mostly only enough to deceive foreigners rather than locals - so, say, a Scottish accent that will deceive Americans but Brits can spot it as not really being any of the various Scottish accents - including the accents of foreign language speakers in English (i.e. how a french or italian will sounds speaking english or even the full-force portuguese accent when speaking english, which I don’t naturally have anymore).

That said, IMHO it is very hard for somebody who grew up in a foreign country speaking a foreign language to fine tune their accent so that it sounds perfect to the ears of a local, and this is valid for all languages, not just English.

Annoyed_Crabby,

No thanks. We non-native/native english speaker from South East Asia have our own accent.

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Singapore goes “laaaaa”.

Frozzie,
@Frozzie@lemmy.world avatar

In Europe we call it “Euro-English”

SubArcticTundra,

Ngl as someone who speaks British English I find Europeans with American accents hot

KrokanteBamischijf,

Ah right, Americans that aren’t actually American, gotcha.

Or is it not just us Euro folks but the Accent in general?

SubArcticTundra,

I don’t know, I haven’t really thought about the psychology behind it tbh. I think it’s the combination of both because I come from europe as well

vzq,

Ya call that an accent?

Kusimulkku,

Americans for some reason don’t like it when you say they speak with an accent. It’s pretty interesting.

drathvedro, (edited )

Oi cunt!

The bogan talk fits my gopnik soul like cat’s pyjamas

whofearsthenight,

American, have considered immigrating just for the ability to use this phrase on the reg.

TheEighthDoctor,

I once did one of those quizzes that figures out where your American accent is from and I got mostly LA and midwest. Makes sense since I learned from watching TV shows.

CaptFeather,

Wait how does that work?

sarsoar,

Dialect tests. Think about how someone from boston might say “park” like “pahk” vs other parts of the country, or if someone uses “y’all” where they might be from. The way people pronounce o,a, ai, ough, augh type of sounds is very telling. Also phrases are very regional. There are many studies that compile that data. One famous dataset is used in a Times article that is behind a paywall, here are some people talking about it: peabodyawards.com/nytimesdialectquiz/

Another random one from buzzfeed: www.buzzfeed.com/andrewziegler/dialect-quiz

And babbel: www.babbel.com/en/magazine/american-accent-quiz

Or just search for dialect quiz.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The Buzzfeed one got where I’ve lived most of my life. Wasn’t sure where it would say since I moved around a lot as a kid.

Pipoca,

There’s many regional differences in American English.

First, pronunciation is always changing, and changes tend to happen regionally.

For example, there’s the Mary-merry-marry merger. A bit over half of American speakers pronounce all three of those words identically, as mɛri. About 17% of Americans have a full three-way contrast. In NYC, for example, they’d say meɹi, mæɹi, and mɛɹi. And other people merged two of the three.

The pen-pin merger is a famous feature of southern American dialects.

Some words have regional pronunciations - crayon can have one or two syllables, for example.

And then there’s regional words, like pop vs soda, bucket vs pail, firefly vs lightning bug, you vs y’all vs yinz vs youse vs you lot vs you all vs you guys etc.

By asking about all of those sorts of things, you can figure out where someone’s from.

Nalivai,

USdefaultism of this post should be used in The International Bureau of Weights and Measures as the metrics for all other USdefaultisms.

Uncle_Bagel,

333 million Americans, 67 million Brits, 26 million Australians.

Nalivai,

1.4 billion Indians. So what?

JudahBenHur,

They’re talking about native English speakers. Did you really not get that? There are also a lot of Chinese people, try yelling that out of context, also.

Aceticon,

English is one of the official languages in India.

Even if only 1/10 of Indians grew up speaking it alongside Hindi or one of the other official languages (it’s a pretty big and varied country), it still adds up to 140 million people, so the previous poster has a valid point.

JudahBenHur,

this post is about native accents. choose an accent (from native accents), normal, fancy or wildcard.

JudahBenHur,

sorry, I re-read your post this morning, I missed when you said “official languages” for some reason. I take your point

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

It’s just as bad in spanish. I’m an american with a colombian paisa accent in spanish and it messes with the mexicans. They love it since it’s not what they usually hear.

Tedesche,

Whenever someone who speaks Spanish asks me if I speak it, I always respond, “Oon pokeeto, paro solaminty en oon assento Gringo.” Gets either a laugh or a groan every time. 😈

Anamnesis,

I think Americans usually learn Mexican Spanish. That’s definitely what I learned, güey.

M500,

As a native speaker, I agree.

But the way check out c/Englishlearning if you are learning English.

There is not much there, but I’m happy to help and answer questions.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

c/Englishlearning

[email protected]

is this the right link to the community you are talking about? I thought I’d help by creating the link. It’s not easy to get those links sometimes.

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

put a ! in front of your link and it will open in the users home instance. !englishlearning

M500,

Thanks for the link. I feel like I never do it right 😂

ArmoredThirteen,

Do you know is there something like this for German?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

You could try

c/Englischlernen

ArmoredThirteen,

I mean I’m learning German. Or are you saying go there to ask about that?

M500,

I have no idea. I hope you find one.

nottheengineer,

Yes, there’s !deutsch_lernen .

menemen,

I chose Russia (despite being born in Germany and not of Russian heritage). It just sounds more badass than a German accent.

bratosch,

Atleast we’re bilingual

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

tabweh! … it translates to ‘this is true’ in Ojibway-Cree in my language in northern Ontario.

GuitarAbuser,

My accent is a mix of all these three, plus the effect my friends from India have hd on me

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

i pick English canada always

DragonTypeWyvern,

American with “eh” it is.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

It’s amariceh

FurbiesAndBeans,

Nah more like American-eh

Buddahriffic,

It’s UK spelling. Colour instead of color, etc.

ILikeBoobies,

Depends where you are, we do have an accent but it’s really hard to find people with it now

PraiseTheSoup,

Really? Because everyone on Trailer Park Boys and Letterkenny has it. And I say that as a northern Minnesotan.

ILikeBoobies,

Can people not tell the difference between them and the out for a rip song guy/Bob and Doug?

And yeah, you’ll know the accent but in Toronto people just sound and act American

Moneo,

Don’t forget about the ‘sorry’ key.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

i use cookie and biscuit like they mean different things

cookie: has chocolate or hazelnut

biscuit: has jam, has arbitrary flavors like lemon or has no other flavors

_TheThunderWolf_,

i use them like this: cookies are chewy, biscuits are crunchy

robocall,

British - fancy

America - normal

Australia - wildcard

nxdefiant,

America should be Eevee, because there are so many opportunities for variation.

mholiv,

British should be eevee if anything. There are double the British accents compared to American ones. Cockney, London, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Ireland are extremely distinct let alone the hundreds of other distinct regional accents.

nxdefiant,

From what I can tell there’s 30-40 each and about 160 world wide. Crazy!

slackassassin,

Same for the us, though. NY, Boston, Midwestern, New England, Minnesota, Atlantic, Southern, Texan, Pacific Nw, Californian. And various specific regional like queens, Brooklyn, Philly. It goes on and on. The US is not the monolith it’s often described as.

rambaroo,

Tbf they only sound “extremely distinct” to British people. A lot of those accents are hard to distinguish for non-native speakers or people outside the UK.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Youse have two accents, American and Southern.

Britain has a new accent every 20cm.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Tell that to someone from Bawston lol, the US has way more than 2 accents for sure. UK does have a lot though, not sure who actually has more. Let’s find a linguist!

slackassassin,

That’s not even counting the farts!

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, they’re beyond number.

DarkMessiah,

A Boston accent is different from a New York accent, is different from a Missouri accent, is different from a Mississippi accent, is different from a Florida accent, is different from a Texas accent, is different from an Oklahoma accent, etc. Even within states, it fully depends on how rural you live, whether you went to college… hell, even your tax bracket in some cases.

I say this as an Australian that grew up in America: the sheer size of the place is enough to have something like fifty regional accents per state. Like everything with the US: it’s fucking insane.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Hell even different NYC accents: Queens, Brooklyn, …

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Don’t forget the jersey one.

slackassassin,

There’s a dozen Southern accents alone.

rambaroo,

Lmao to me Britain has two accents, Scottish and English. The rest sound the same. Y’all think your accents are so special to the point where it gets cringe sometimes.

KrokanteBamischijf,

Now comes the hard part of defining all the Eeveelutions.

I feel like there are a few very distinct regional accents, but I’m having trouble coming up with the right distinction from the top of my head.

There’s New England, the south in general, New York, Chicago which immediately trigger my brain to think of a very specific accent. Surely there is more to it though?

Edit: seems @slackassassin made an excellent list.

ECB,

America actually has very little geographic variation in accents.

In the UK, for instance, it can change drastically from village to village.

nxdefiant,

Maybe for the regions that only speak one language. East Texas alone mixes English, Spanish, French and German dialects. It’s like a sitcom of bad accents down there.

rambaroo,

It’s funny when people confidently make shit up on the Internet

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

America - which one of Southern (various), U.P., Massachusetts, Atlantic, valley girl, NYC (various) Minnesota, Philly, Chicago, … ?

NathanUp,
@NathanUp@lemmy.ml avatar

Imo Indian English should be normal as it’s spoken by more people.

Treczoks,

I have read British and American books galore (i.e. thousands), and I’ve listened to English (BBC, BFBS) and American (AFN, Movies) audio sources. My vocabulary and accent is a wild mix of both, so the British consider me American, and the American think I’m British.

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