BigBlackCockroach,
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar

The mask is slipping…

breachmedia.ca/leaked-report-accuses-canada-of-co…

The report indicates that new investments by Canadian mining companies in Tigray have increased as the region has been plunged into a major humanitarian crisis from military attacks by the Ethiopian and Eritrean government, whom the United Nations has accused of deliberately “starving Tigrayans.”

​​The U.N has warned that hundreds of thousands of people in Tigray face starvation, as the Ethiopian military—backed by Eritrean troops and militia from Ethiopia’s Amhara region—have raped women and children, committed massacres, burned crops, and blocked aid to the region as they conduct a lop-sided military offensive against the Tigray People

BigBlackCockroach,
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar
BigBlackCockroach,
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar
TheGIGAcapitalist,

These are valid criticisms but you approached this conversation in the worst way possible. If you are trying to get people on your side, this aint it dude.

BigBlackCockroach,
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar
BigBlackCockroach,
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar
wombatula,

Yes this is definitely all of Canada doing this, not a corporation.

Do you say things like this when a company from your home country invests in a troubled region? Is it their government and peoples that you hold at fault? Or is this a problem with capitalism, and you have some motive to disparage Canada as a whole for the actions of a few rich assholes that the average Canadian would gladly have arrested for these actions?

What is your motive here, exactly?

BigBlackCockroach, (edited )
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar

Ethiopia Is Committing Genocide Against the Tigrayan People, Say Priests From Region

During this genocide against the state of tigray canda and it’s black-face president prospected gold mines in tigray. You canadians supported a genocide to steal tigrayan gold. I wonder if you would still feel the same if it was your mum and your daughter being sexually abused or your cousin or dad being put against a wall and shot.

Canada’s Indigenous Genocide Is Ongoing | Truthout

wombatula, (edited )

Are you insane? “you canadians” lmao, yes I went to Africa myself and attacked these people, what country are you from exactly? Are you personally responsible for every thing every company of your country ever did?

What. Is. Your. Motive? Stop dodging the question, why are you attempting to defame the entire country of Canada and all its citizens?

edit LMAO judging by your post history about American politics, you’re American aren’t you, how the fuck do you sit there and judge Canada for the actions of one corporation, your entire countries corporate history is drenched in international blood, what a fucking hypocrite.

BigBlackCockroach,
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar

What is your motive here, exactly?

What is yours?

wombatula,

Don’t dodge the question.

beevoid,

The Geneva suggestions…

wombatula,

I love how most of the comments in this thread completely ignore the context of the post, and instead are “Canada bad!” posts that seem to delight in bringing up every horrible thing the country ever did.

jimbo,

Yep, not a single mention of anything having to do with the Geneva Conventions.

wombatula,

No there was one, literally one comment chain.

lemm.ee/comment/5632652

The rest is mostly Americans screaming about Canada to make themselves feel better about themselves.

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Add Canada to the list of countries not to mess with.

thelazywriter,
@thelazywriter@lemmy.ca avatar

To add to the list: internment of Hungarian and Ukrainian Canadians in WWI in Canada (some other Eastern Europeans too); internment of Japanese Canadians in WWII in Canada.

sukhmel,

There were also jewish refugees that were not allowed into Canada. Afair, the bigger arsehole in that story was the UK, that panicked and decided that everyone who fled Germany during some 193x–194x must certainly be a german spy. They forcefully moved people to camps, and also to foreign territories, but it didn’t work terribly well with Canada, too.

I though this to be the article I first heard this story from, but it doesn’t seem to address that. Here I found some more details, e.g. on how refugees were in prisoner of war camps along with actual nazis.

Edit: But those are likely not related to the question of what Canada did to become example of how Geneva convention should be, so maybe an unnecessary info ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Epicurus0319,

Least racist treatment of Jews in 20th-century Europe

little_hermit,

So like non-francophones in Quebec, but without the beatings.

K0W4LSK1,
@K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ignorance aint so bliss anymore lmao

HawlSera, (edited )

Well Justin Trudeau basically had an “Aww shucks” attitude to churches being burnt down because it took focus off of his grandpa’s “residential schools”

And then he filled MAID full of loopholes to encourage mass genocide of the poor.

Epicurus0319,

Never ask a woman her age

Never ask a man his salary

Never ask Canada what the “indigenous boarding schools” were for

Never ask Russia, America, Hamas or Israel why they all see the Geneva Convention as a to-do list

dx1,

Where’d that article from earlier go… readthemaple.com/the-trudeau-government-has-oppos…

Smoogs, (edited )

And There in lies what annoys me with Trudeau. He is the epitome of the morally pompous kid that shows up in the middle of the fight and decides right then who is the bully and the victim without getting the full story of how the fight started and just doesn’t care. Cringefully and willfully naive with an unhealthy side of ego. The worst kind of Canadian.

dx1,

With citizens, ignorance can be an excuse. With politicians, it’s their job to know, and if they’re on the wrong side that pretty much means they’re complicit.

Smoogs,

With politicians in his position they should have intel. So I’m deeply disturbed if his intel on this is lacking why he’s acting this way when even the most basic news outlet is describing it pretty basic. There’s just no way citizens should be that much more educated than their prime minister. If he does have intel no one else has on the citizen level but to then go off calling them as supporting terrorist as a result is just shameful.

dangblingus, (edited )

Genocide of our indigenous population mostly. The worst of it ended in 1996 when the last residential school closed. Basically, the Catholic Church under the authorization of the Canadian Federal Government in the 1800s and onwards, abducted children from indigenous communities, took them to boarding schools where they attempted to assimilate them into Eurocentric culture by punishing them for speaking their own language and practicing their own culture. Beatings, sexual abuse, and neglect were commonplace, with many children dying of illness, exposure, or violence. Many children survived the schools and are still alive today to tell us about it. There are also mass graves at several of these schools where children’s corpses were dumped and hidden from public view, until ground x-ray technology came around and we found the graves.

Also, random weird fact: women weren’t allowed to have bank accounts in Canada until like 1964.

ironeagl,

Other random weird fact: Women weren’t allowed to have a bank account in the USA until 1974.

TryingToEscapeTarkov,

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  • 257m,

    I think thats a bit of a generalization.

    greywolf0x1,

    Certainly not in the past, while they’ve calmed down a little with the hate these last few decades, they coming back with full force now.

    pythonoob,

    … Ok…

    Garbanzo,

    Fucking white males. Thank God they aren’t as racist as Asians, we’d all really be fucked then.

    Buelldozer,
    @Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

    Women weren’t allowed to have a bank account in the USA until 1974.

    You know that isn’t true, right?

    KevonLooney,

    Except it was effectively true, because banks were allowed to consider marital status as a risk factor. That was made illegal in 1974. It’s in your own article.

    trafficnab,

    The article says the 1974 law concerns credit applications, not bank accounts

    pomodoro_longbreak,
    @pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m going need a 90 minute documentary and a giant bowl of popcorn to absorb all this

    ironeagl,

    Are you going to give someone a checkbook without checking their credit? A checkbook was ye old credit card, and a checking account was how you got it.

    Schadrach,

    Except it was effectively true,

    Only in the same way it was true that men couldn’t vote in the US until shortly before the Civil War. Because before that most states didn’t have state laws mandating that all free male citizens be allowed to vote.

    ironeagl,

    I don’t know what to tell you. At least one of my grandmothers needed their husband’s signature to open a bank account in the 60’s, and it wasn’t because she didn’t have assets in her name.

    GFY,

    Any chance you have a link to a reputable source, or a site anyone else besides you has heard of?

    little_hermit,

    Not without their husband’s permission. That is to say, they were allowed as long as their husband was happy with their wifely performance.

    Stanwich,

    Really. We found the Graves of dumped children? So we finally have a body?

    Tavarin,
    @Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar
    OrteilGenou,
    earthquake,

    If you’re wondering why Stanwich here is acting weird, it’s a common right-wing conspiracy in Canada that these unmarked graves are “unproven” because they were discovered with ground-radar instead of dug up. They won’t accept that there were deaths at these schools until they’re dug up and the remains positively identified, at which point, one assumes, they’ll accept that the attempt at cultural genocide that went on at these schools also had a side effect of mass graves.

    Snowpix,
    @Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

    Or they’ll do some mental gymnastics and claim it’s all a conspiracy to make the Church look bad or that it wasn’t as bad as it is. Can’t trust conservatives to ever admit being wrong, because they almost never do.

    Gestrid,

    For me, in the US, Canada is like that child where, if things are quiet, you know they’re doing something bad. Because we in the US rarely ever actually hear anything bad about Canada.

    wombatula,

    Compared to the US which is loudly doing bad things constantly.

    kleenbhole,

    okay but what did Canada do wrong tho?

    Alexstarfire,

    Didn’t hide it well enough.

    wombatula,

    lemm.ee/comment/5632652

    This seems to be the only comment chain that actually explains it, the rest of this post is mostly Americans bringing up every crime and misdeed that Canada has ever participated in or even is connected to.

    Sorry you got downvoted for bringing up the point of the original post, which was the title and linked image, everyone else on their hate parade and is too busy.

    kleenbhole,

    Oh I don’t I’m just trolling the hippies.

    Tekchip,
    @Tekchip@lemmy.world avatar

    Canadian Federal Government? So Britain then? /S

    LostWon,

    The US called their residential schools “boarding schools,” but I don’t know if those had the same kind of lasting legacy Canada has, based on the schools they had in the US.

    lauha,

    So this is really not about what Canada alone did, but what Catholic church and Canada did.

    Epicurus0319,

    Wait… it didn’t close until 1996?

    wombatula,

    What does that have to do with the Geneva conventions?

    TheMightyCanuck,

    “Good” at war : ✅️

    Human rights : ❌️

    Supporting catholic genocide : ✅️

    We have a really weird history that isn’t really something to be proud of…

    at_an_angle,
    @at_an_angle@lemmy.one avatar

    To be fair, that’s in line with every country.

    TSG_Asmodeus, (edited )
    @TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

    The Nazi’s got the term, and concept, ‘final solution’ from a Canadian:

    “It is readily acknowledged that Indian children lose their natural resistance to illness by habitating so closely in these schools, and that they die at a much higher rate than in their villages. But this alone does not justify a change in the policy of this Department, which is being geared towards the final solution of our Indian Problem.

    “…the system was open to criticism. Insufficient care was exercised in the admission of children to the schools. The well-known predisposition of Indians to tuberculosis resulted in a very large percentage of deaths among the pupils. They were housed in buildings not carefully designed for school purposes, and these buildings became infected and dangerous to the inmates. It is quite within the mark to say that fifty per cent of the children who passed through these schools did not live to benefit from the education which they had received therein.

    (This is why there was a fair bit of anger in Canada when Civ 6 added .

    EDIT: I transposed Laurier and MacDonald here, as someone pointed out. The above quotes are from Duncan Campbell Scott, as Deputy Superintendent General of Indian Affairs under MacDonald. Laurier was a key architect of the Residential School system. TLDR; MacDonald started the genocide, Laurier built upon it.)

    crackajack,

    The Nazis were inspired by New World colonialist, racists policies. Even Hitler admit he was inspired by the eugenics movement from the US.

    captainlezbian,

    I’m not disputing any of your points, but Civ 6 has Wilfred Laurier as Canada’s leader

    TSG_Asmodeus,
    @TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

    Thank you for pointing that out, I switched Laurier and MacDonald after quoting MacDonald’s Deputy. Cheers!

    Kbin_space_program, (edited )

    Canada's Hundred Days. Aka the last 100 days of WW1.

    Functionally, Canada won WW1 for the allies.

    Being under 10% of the WW1 force, in that period they tackled defences everyone else thought impregnable and shattered them, like the Hindenburg Line, and in the process paved the way for the allied advance. They also took out a quarter of the German forces in that time.

    While they did arguably use proto-blitzkrieg tactics of using lots of machine guns, and then also using vehicles to move troops even quicker while using said machine guns, one of the biggest factors was a prodigious use of chemical weapons.

    To the point that in the interwar period, Canada had the largest capacity and stores of chemical weapons. During WW2, said stockpile is one of the reasons Hitler refused to use chemical weapons on the allies.

    Edit: And a lot of the rules on fair treatment of POWs and rules on capturing surrendered soldiers also stems of Canadian soldiers behaviours during WW1.

    Rocketpoweredgorilla,
    @Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca avatar

    In our defense we were jonesing for maple syrup.

    spankinspinach,

    We’re a simple people, enjoying quiet lives and good standard of living. But threaten our maple syrup - even from afar - and we will give you a reason for the Geneva convention!

    charliespider,

    It was totally justifiable! We had to end the war cuz hockey season was about to start.

    Kecessa,

    To be fair, French Canadians were overrepresented and didn’t want to be there so they figured if they were super good at it they could go back home ASAP.

    Narrrz,

    so the French are cowards, Canadians are teddy bears, but somehow when you combine the two they not only cancel our but hyperamplify the opposite?

    Mnemnosyne,

    It’s like Civ Gandhi with nuclear weapons. Aggression goes negative and wraps around to the max.

    Shapillon,

    This is why one should be caution around unsigned numbers.

    MolochAlter,

    That’s actually a myth, btw.

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    The French will riot for weeks if you raise their retirement age. Americans will just complain online if you take away their human rights.

    The French are not the cowards.

    Narrrz,

    good point 🤔

    trafficnab,

    The French shut the entire country down when the government tried to raise the diesel tax by 10 cents, don’t fuck with French labor

    ech,

    Two incredibly dumb generalizations proven wrong in this very thread, but people like you are still perpetuating them.

    Kbin_space_program,

    Fun fact, numbers to numbers for personnel, vehicles, equipment, air force and navy, France has more stuff than Britain in every category.

    I don't know too much of how good their stuff is other than the Rafale being a fine piece of tech.

    ryathal,

    French are great when not led by a Frenchman.

    Buddahriffic,

    Napoleon was French.

    ryathal,

    Technically Corsician

    rovingnothing29,
    @rovingnothing29@kbin.social avatar

    Hydrogen and Oxygen are extremely flammable. When combined they make water.

    merc,

    Oxygen isn’t flammable, Oxygen is what reacts with the things that are flammable.

    Schadrach,

    If I remember my chemistry right, chlorine trifluoride would like to have a chat with you. It’s such a powerful oxidizer that when burned with oxygen, the oxygen is actually the fuel rather than the oxidizer.

    But then this is the stuff that the Nazis decided was too dangerous to use as rocket propellant, then decided it was too dangerous to use as a chemical weapon.

    merc,

    I don’t want to chat with Chlorine Trifluoride, it’s nasty.

    But yeah, there are some obscure situations where oxygen isn’t the oxidizing agent, but the name “oxidizer” gives a clue how rare that is. In most normal situations, oxygen is the oxidizer and the thing it reacts with is the fuel. Partially that’s due to Oxygen being a good electron acceptor, but mostly it’s because there’s a lot of oxygen in the planet, and anywhere you can have humans you pretty much need to have oxygen.

    wombatula,

    Also don’t forget the good old Shotgun / Trenchgun, which was seen as an unfair weapon in trench warfare as there was no answer to it in close range and tight corridors.

    Germany literally banned the use of them, Germany.

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