I read that this might remove efivars from your motherboard and brick your hardware. There was a workaround but not sure if it’s safe hardware wise now. I would like to do this to my laptop before reinstalling with btrfs but I’m kinda scared.
Once, 2ish years ago I think by now? I was trying to clean up all the shit I installed to compile something because it wasnt available on apt, had a repository, or had a .deb (I was on ubuntu at the time).
I mistyped something and ended up removing Python. Got no warning, no red text, no nothing. It just uninstalled it as if it was nothing.
I rebooted, and learned that a lot of fucking shit depends on python. because I no longer had a DE and could only boot into a terminal. after 2 hours of trying to unfuck it, I just used a live cd to save what files I could and reinstalled.
Oh, and I never got the program compiled and working. and never tried again on the fresh install. I dont even remember what it was now. Something for gaming, probably.
The great advantage of Linux is the freedom to do as you please, but it also assumes that you know what you are doing. Windows also allows you to do everything, but only if you ignore the hysterical attacks of the System, but you must also know what you are doing.
The ability to shoot yourself in the foot is great, but you have to remember that Unix is a gleeful imp holding a monkey paw and makes book on the side with his friend the evil genie.
Here’s a shotgun, go bonkers. Foot is that way. Don’t forget to sudo.
This is why I use Aptitude and review all proposed changes (other than straight package upgrades) before proceeding. Blindly running stuff like apt full-upgrade is crazy to me.
My biggest issue with windows is it not telling you the exact reason for some weird behavior, and then making it intentionally difficult to go in and modify/fix it yourself.
Linux might break more often, but when it does I’ve ALWAYS been able to recover or restore it far far easier than I ever could on a windows machine, partially due to the actually helpful error messages.
I can’t confirm this, since W7 until now on W10 I have not seen a BSOD again. This only happened to me in previous versions on a few occasions. It wasn’t that serious either, restarting and issue resolved. In the past with Ubuntu, which at the time was a disaster, I have had many crashes or I have been left without a desktop due to incompatibilities with it’s Compiz, changing to Kubuntu this no longer happened, resulting much more stable. In general, the current OS, be it Linux or Windows, are very stable OS.
Something breaking doesn’t need to be a BSOD. It can be minor things that either don’t work properly and annoy you, or something that breaks and now gets in your way.
However, in all three cases I would still say Linux is better. I’ve administered many hundreds (if not thousands, I honestly don’t know) of systems. So I’m not just basing my opinion on a few systems.
If you have an Windows account you also can recover it from any desaster with one click, restoring the system. But naturally you must spend an afternoon afterwards to restore your original settings, throw out all the garbage and reinstall all your applications and files.
If you have an Windows account you also can recover it from any desaster with one click, restoring the system.
Only if there’s enough of the operating system left to successfully boot and restore itself. If not, good luck.
I can resuscitate a broken Debian setup by booting a USB installer and reinstalling all of the packages on it, assuming the dpkg database /var/lib/dpkg/status is still intact. I can also back up the entire system, apps and all, and later restore everything; there are no hidden secret invisible file shenanigans like on Windows.
“Bad elf magic” isn’t a particularly helpful error message. (It means a shared library couldn’t be loaded because it’s corrupt, for a different kind of machine, built for a very different dynamic linker, or something along those lines.)
Windows hasn’t any fanbase. There are a lot of Windows user, main using Windows for convenience without wanting to complicate life, they bought the PC with Windows installed and use it as is. There are those who think that life is online, where they don’t give a fuck about what OS they do it with. No community and less fanboys, it’s always a love/hate relationship with Windows. Many using it out of necessity due to a certain software they use, some for this with dual boot with Linux. This is what it is.
Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy, BUT ONLY if the first thing you do in a new PC with Windows, to spend an afternoon disabling and throwing out a ton of junk, trials, unnecessary services and functions and most of the telemetry. So if you have a fast and compliant OS. Luckily Windows allows all this, but naturally it requires an advanced user (registry and servicelists can be a comanche territory if you don’t exacly know what you do) and M$ does not offer much documentation and help on this topic either, of course. But in the new online subscription version they will naturally nip these possibilities in the bud.
Yes, there are some tools which can help, eg github.com/hellzerg/optimizer, also Windows itself has the GodMode, but it need somewhat more than this and only remove Skype, MS Store and Cortana.
I don’t know, I’ve the Home edition and this came by default with a lot of crap and services to “improve the User experience” as they call it euphemistically and that can only be understood sarcastically.
Lol, I am viewed as an absolute Wizard by some of my friends in IT, because I am not at all afraid of RegEdit. Just don’t touch anything at all without triple checking that that is in fact the key you want to be playing with.
Yes, no much problem with the cleartext software part, but the other where you see only numbers are not so easy, just easy to turn your PC into a Paperweight. This really isn’t very intuitive
At least W10 in this point isn`t different from W7, not sure in W11 and user intervencion with W12 and W365 online with subscription ends completely. Until now you can still gut Windows to your like, without LSD, maybe with some Tranxilium.
Read also the rest what is necessary to make Windows private and stable. Nothing new that Windows by default is a privacy nightmare, but you can change it, but how to do this is not in the Windows Helpfile.
Just the fact that windows has a hidden “true administrator” account that you have to use for some stuff, and is not easily accessible makes it way harder to take control of your own hardware.
Linux has the same thing, with the root account, but you can access it from a single sudo su command in a terminal (which is mostly pointless since sudo itself executes commands with the highest priviledges).
Also, Microsoft, not every damn thing needs a GUI. I’d rather have a good command line experience than having to trifle through the registry.
I know all this, I already mentioned elsewhere that I laugh when some users say they don’t use Linux, because it is an OS for advanced users. No, it is precisely Windows that requires a more advanced user than Linux, when you really need to modify something, which naturally cannot be done with the GUI and requires using the console (cmd). On Linux this is the rule for everything (although less and less), on Windows you can do most of it with GUI, but not all of it, if you don’t want to use a third party app. In General Windows is only easier and more intuitive to use superficially, but in depth it is a minefield, much more complicated and less intuitive than Linux.
Ubuntu became horrible. Good for the people that enjoy it, tho. Not all users care about the same things. I left the Canonicalverse and landed on Debian. Happy as a clam.
IE is still there. You can’t use it anymore but Windows can. I also don’t think they can ever get rid of IE Options - they changed the name to Internet Options but it’s exactly the same and will break so many networks if they ever get rid of it
Just gotta run a quick apt update… And everything broke.
Mostly looking at Docker, though. The Compose Plugin has been broken since v2.19. Domain resolution is fucked and it refuses to restart services if they depend on another service.
You can uninstall it with winget uninstall cortana, never gave me any issues, works like a charm. Removing edge will break some stuff though, you need some edge render thingie for certain programs like Weather.
While I definitely COULD stand to lose a few, I’ve heard some pretty bad things about crash diets… You’re not gonna trick me into drinking cayenne pepper lemonade, right?
How is Endeavor OS? I’m using kubuntu now and wanted to switch to something with a lean base. I recall there were some issues with the founder leaving the project.
didn’t hear anything about that, maybe you mean AntergOs? Endeavor Os is kinda the follow-up from AntergOs when the founder there stopped working on it.
but endeavor is it’s own thing very close to pure arch just has a nice gui installer.
Oh I think it might be elementaryOS. I remember never getting antergOS to install, good old times. That said, I do have experience with bare arch install and AUR is indeed awesome.
I no longer use arch btw. I will try endeavor this weekend, thanks!
It’s enabled on my work terminal. It’s actually kinda useful to be able to check if I’m dismissing class into a snowstorm or something when we’re in a room without windows.
It’s basically the new Electron, without most of the bloat of the old Electron. Pretty sweet deal for app developers who need to write an app for both desktops and phones.
I keep wanting to switch, but the fact you just said you still use windows for some things is enough for me to just stick with windows, until Linux can do everything windows can then I feel like constantly switching is more hassle than whatever improvements Linux provides
I installed Mint as dual boot over a year ago and the only reason I ever booted back was one game that didn’t run quite well enough. Of course depending on your wants and needs it may vary, but you won’t know until you give it a shot.
Well, my favorite is The Dark Mod (OpenSource), it works on all OS, but generally most games are Windows only, at least if you want more than sidescrollers or games like those 20 years ago. The problem is not that Windows is better for gaming than Linux, rather the opposite, the problem is only the availability of games for Linux, not something else. Mac users have them even worse, at least if you don’t settle for things like Mario Bros or 8 Bit sidescrollers.
You are. What you’re talking about are virtual desktops or virtual workspaces.
I said “desktop environments”, which is a specific thing in Linux. It’s the GUI and suite of tools that come with it. They all tend to have a usecase in mind and different philosophy. There’s Gnome, KDE Plasma, xfce, lxde, Budgie, Cinnamon, Sway, and a whole bunch more that I can’t remember.
No, nothing like that. It can seem that way from a quick glance, but there’s so much more under the surface.
It’s such a large change under the surface that sometimes the exact same system, but with a different DE is considered its own distro, but usually they’re called spins.
In Windows you can do this too by default, without the need to install nothing. In the setting you can create several desktops or monitors, separate or continuos. By default Windows include a lot of features, even speech to text or command, you can create your own fonts with a tool that Windows has by default (eudcedit) and a ton of other tools it has. That Linux can do more than Windows is nonsense, this isn’t the advantage Linux has, en both you can do way more than you ever need.
No it can’t. You don’t even know what I’m talking about, clearly. I said “desktop environments”. I didn’t say anything about virtual workspaces. The only alternative desktop environment I know about for Windows is Stardock, and even that was a massive hack. I don’t even know if they still exist.
By default Windows include a lot of features
Ironically, this is one of Windows’ largest issues. They give you everything including the kitchen sink, but they used construction glue to hold everything in place. So all those features you don’t need or want (Xbox Gamebar, or whatever it’s called now) is impossible to remove without breaking the system.
even speech to text or command, you can create your own fonts with a tool that Windows has by default (eudcedit) and a ton of other tools it has.
Oh sure, like any mature OS for the past two decades.
That Linux can do more than Windows is nonsense
I guess you missed the tongue-in-cheek tone from my comment. But even so, Linux being able to do more than Windows is a valid point. And the things it does the same as Windows, it sometimes does them better (things like performance and stability)
For example: On Linux, I can setup a new drive with BTRFS or even ZFS. Can’t do that on Windows, because our choices there are: FAT32, exFAT, and good ol’ NTFS.
Well, if you mean customize the Desktop, there are certainly several apps. The first which ocurres me is Rainmeter (FOSS), also Rainlendar(Freemium), and some others. Not a big Problem with this.
I don’t mean the obvious functions and features of Windows, like Xbox, but a lot of apps included, such as the aforementioned eudcedit or the somewhat more well-known GodMode. The problem is that these are very little to nothing documented by MS.
Where I give you the reason is in performance, although at this point Windows has also improved a lot, at least in this aspect I have no complaints at all in W10 (well, at least after removing all the unnecessary services that it brings by default). On Linux it is perhaps somewhat better, but it also depends a lot on the Distro you use, some can also be quite resource hungry.
Regarding stability, I have no complaints since W7 either, Windows is a fairly stable system, even more W10. In old Windows an Appcrash mostly also crashed or blocked the system, not so in last versions. In W10, if an app crash, Windows simply takes you back to the desktop, killing the process, or a Menu appears when an app doesn’t respond, giving you the choice if you want to wait if it finishes responding, or kill the process.
No, that’s not what I mean. DEs are so involved that sometimes just changing the DE on the installer qualifies as a new distro. Rainmeter is literally just theming your desktop. Not even close.
or the somewhat more well-known GodMode
Linux comes with God mode out of the box. It’s called root.
Edit: I just want to point out that I actually know what god-mode is on Windows. However, I find it funny that Microsoft called it “god-mode” when on Linux those are the most mundane settings you could find. If you think god-mode is interesting, then KDE Plasma would implode your brain and spawn a microverse. You can even configure how Windows behave and how you interact with them on a per application or per window basis. And that’s just scratching the surface. /End Edit
although at this point Windows has also improved a lot,
Most of that improvement is a direct result of better hardware. I’m not kidding. Try to install Windows 10 on an HDD. The disk gets thrashed so hard that it’s a miracle they don’t catch on fire.
Another fun fact is that Microsoft changed the boot for Windows 10 to compete with Linux and macOS. Windows now shows the desktop to the user before even loading services. So you see your desktop, but you can’t use it right away. On both Linux and macOS as soon as you see your desktop, your system has loaded.
some can also be quite resource hungry.
All of them are better than Windows. A lot of this comes down to the CPU scheduler. The one Windows uses is slower than just about every other OS out there.
In old Windows an Appcrash mostly also crashed or blocked the system, not so in last versions.
This hasn’t been the case since well before XP. In fact, for most OSes this hasn’t been the case for at least a decade or two.
I shut down the Laptop every night (Power off, no fast boot enabled), when I boot the Laptop in the Morning it shows 3-4 s the Logo and a second after this the log screen, after entering my password in less than 10 seconds it shows the Desktop with all icons and WiFi enabled and online, 10 seconds later I’m posting in Lemmy. Maybe it loads slower in your case , if you have enabled all the default services, I use only the essential ones, desactivated Hibernation and Index, the first one the worst Memory Hog which I don’t use anyway and the second not needed with an SSD apart of slowing down the system, services like a printer, I don’t have, servies for Digital pad and similar things I don’t use, no animations. Start apps are only Crow Translate (~20 Mb) and ShareX, not much heavier. No AV apart the Defender which is pretty good currently. No Desktop icons, only in the Taskbar for the most used which I access with WinKey +1, 2, 3, etc… No waiting time when appears the Desktop (maybe the difference to use an SSD instead of an HD), all pretty fast and snappy. Lenovo 15 AST, AMD Radeon 8 Gb +3Gb GPU, 256 Gb SSD for € 350 new, two years ago, not really an high end NASA PC, as you can see.
I literally said in my previous comment that Windows 10/11 is unusable without an SSD. And then you present to me a system with an SSD that’s “pretty fast”. Ok.
You also detail how you rewire half the system’s internals to get it useable. That’s not what I’d call performant.
Just about every Linux distro is 100% ready to go in terms of performance. No tweaking to get things working at all. Only customization stuff, which is not what you were describing.
I setup a friend’s old system to Linux that was brutally slow with Windows. It’s a Core Duo (12+ year old CPU), 4GB RAM, and an HDD. She uses it every day for remote work. She says she’d never know it’s an old system if no one told her. That’s performance.
I agree with you, if Windows were not so Bloated, it would still be an OS with excellent performance. But I already said at the beginning that Windows requires an afternoon before first use to gut it and throw out all the garbage and services (to improve the user experience") that it comes with by default, this is probably the biggest disadvantage it has compared to Linux. The weight of the OS itself and the system requirements are not much different than one of the larger distros, it even works well on tablets conveniently reduced to the basic OS. My previous laptop did not have an SSD and it worked quite well there too (there I used it in dual boot with Kubuntu), but this, if is used as it comes by default, which the vast majority of users probably do, then it is logical that Linux performance is much higher. This is why I also said that Windows requires an advanced user to function as it should. Anyway, in the moment I don’t have reasons to change to Linux, at least until I have support for W10 (>2025 min). It works as it should and I am not in the habit of changing if something works the way I want it to. My life with the Laptop is 99% online and for this the OS with which I do it is quite irrelevant to me.
It works as it should and I am not in the habit of changing if something works the way I want it to. My life with the Laptop is 99% online and for this the OS with which I do it is quite irrelevant to me.
This is ultimately the only argument that really matters. If it works for you, then just use it.
That is, we all know that Windows is a privacy nightmare by default (somewhat less EU versions* because GDPR, there it’s telemetries only go to MS, not to half the Internet, with even keyloggers by TowerData as in the US version) and Linux infinite better in this point. But apart of this, respect security and stability Windows isn’t as bad as everyone makes it out to be, at least not since W7 (~8 ?), if viewed from the perspective of stability, security, and manageability as an OS. Adding the infinite catalog of software, also FOSS, which is not in any other OS. No OS is perfect and there are also a lot of linux distros that are utter crap, not all that glitters is gold and each one has its pros and cons. What I am certainly never going to buy is Apple, I think they have rested too much time on their laurels and become too elitist, exclusive and hermetic, adding the high prices that are based more on design than utility and features, apart from compatibility with practically nothing, except Apple, a “joy” for any dev
Ironically, Windows has the largest FOSS catalog of any OS, apart from soft proprietary of course. Also, many official and professional business apps are only available for Windows. Gaming can also be a reason to use Windows, although this is slowly changing.
Shut the fuck up man literally every single post about any other operating system is “SWITCH TO LINUX, YOU WON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH LINUX!!! LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER LINUX IS!!! LINUXXXXXXXX!!!”
All it does is give all the circle jerkers a reason to spam comments and not listen to anybody else’s opinions besides their own and it does absolutely nothing helpful for the post
Its more of the dependency chain. I wouldn’t consider tying your taskbar, web browser, and other microservices together like that a good thing in any ecosystem. Its not really the fact that removing system files breaks your system. Its that the taskbar and web browser should not be considered Core. People want to choose and not have their non-choice staring at them with their new gurl from the sidelines.
Most things are probably fine, though Windows updates might do something funky or just put it back from where you threw out that trash.
But Edge is a different story. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to make Edge, their web browser, essential for Windows Explorer, their file manager and desktop among other things, to function properly.
So if you get rid of Edge, things can get kinda fucky. I haven’t looked into if someone has made a workaround, I know that there are modified “debloated” Windows installs that do some heavy duty mucking about in there, but I don’t know if anyone’s figure out how to give Edge the ax without making your desktop freak out.
The system does not break because the bloatware is missing, but because to remove Edge you removed the privileges of the system account used for system updates. The method described is what breaks Windows, not the removal of Edge. There are exploits allowing an administrator account to impersonate TrustedInstaller: it’s possible to uninstall edge without breaking Windows Update.
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