What. I still rember the article about the Monkeys Musk butchered with his Microchips! This was terrifying and disgusting and now he is allowed to do this to humans?! WTF.
Regulatory capture at work. If you’re the second-richest man in the world and a darling of the far right to boot, they’ll let you do pretty much whatever you want.
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You don’t have to worry about that, It’s an Elon Musk owned product, he already solved that with TwiXer. He just has to make sure that Nazi’s can send their propoganda to your brain, and then advertisers will stay very far away from the neuro link.
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Yes, but only the lucky ones win death in a raffle (1 in a 1000). The rest are shipped to mines. And their memories are not wiped clean, because the suffering is the integral part of such economy.
you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent
I agree this is the current law. But I certainly don’t agree with this law. Do you?
I feel people should absolutely be allowed to consent to death, or potential death. And I mean, we already can in various other contexts like skiing in avalanche terrain, ordering too many big macs, or medically assisted suicide to prevent suffering from incurable conditions (at least in a few civilized places).
You’re talking to someone whose wife died 4 months ago (at 34 years old), from one of those incurable conditions. I’ll let you guess how I feel about allowing people to end their life on their terms.
I’m confident you strongly support allowing it as I have never met someone who witnessed a loved one suffer like that and does not support lessening their suffering.
So since you support allowing people to end their own lives in that context, you understand that people can indeed consent to death. So perhaps consenting to death should be permitted in other contexts too. That’s the only point I was making.
The same way we assure people consenting to anything at all are not being forced to. We try our best basically. And sometimes we’ll probably get it wrong and need to improve. I’m completely ok with that when the alternative is guaranteed preventable suffering. Just like I’m ok with people using power of attorney to protect the finances of people with dementia, even if sometimes it gets misapplied.
Ahh, you can trust the guy who single-hand-idly drove twitter into the ground and pushed a shit sheet metal meme car. He doesn’t know anything about anything, but you can trust him with brain surgery.
Really though, anyone that thinks this is a good idea and signs up for testing probably deserves the lobotomy they’re going to end up with.
There is at least one fanboi in this thread that totally deserves it. Getting the implant should be required in order to allowed buy a Cybertruck. Dead drivers of apocalyptical death-cars are way less dangerous than the alive ones.
Man, I don’t know what right wingers y’all are talking about.
I come from a super right wing family and all them MFs think this is a bad idea too (though to be fair, they’re def on the conspiracy theory “everything is to get a microchip in my blood/brain” side of things).
Nobody said anything about FAR right. In fact, you’re the one who’s characterizing people as extremists for disagreeing with you, a typical centrist move.
Aww, that’s adorable, but that’s not the burn you think it is lol.
If anyone ever actually achieved communism, it would be much better than most if not all government forms tried so far. Alas, that’ll probably never happen as it seems to inevitably turn into a hyperauthoritarian and unequal oligarchy.
Thanks for wishing the real thing on me even though I pointed out your centrist shortcomings, though!
Dude, you haven’t even read the theory papers behind the system you’re promoting, you just made that very, very clear and I bet you don’t even know why.
That and anyone who explains to the left that they too would like a better nominee, but we can figure that out after this crucial election cycle…during every election cycle for their entire life, which are the only times they discuss politics.
I suppose my instinctive reaction isn’t to assume someone’s politics would determine how they react to Musk.
My first real assumption would be that tech/engineering types are the only ones who’d really think about him at all (in both directions). Like, I do have an uncle who occasionally brings him up whenever theirs news on SpaceX’s rockets (though usually this gets brought up in the context of “new technology sucks” and “what was wrong with the rockets that carried up Voyager” and such).
So yeah, I really don’t think I’d describe anyone as “gargling Elon’s cock” except those who still have good will for Tesla.
I come from a super-right wing family too (but from Europe) and they really are in love Elon because it’s like “a dog being out of control” in the billionaire group, the one who is brave enough to go against the rules, defying the “cancel culture” and the unidirectional thinking imposed by political correctness.
Yeah, I hate how toxic just politics in general get. Like, it feels like any time anything political gets brought up, everyone leaves their good will and sense of humanity at the door, ya know?
I do enjoy how much tech-focused content is on Lemmy, but it also feels like there’s a higher concentration of toxic leftist type posts.
That’s definitely a thing I miss about the good ol’ reddit days: being able to scroll for days without seeing anything political. Or rather - being able to filter out all the political subs and not feeling like you were missing out on the larger conversation on the platform.
Unfortunately, everything is political, and this has always been true, and will never not be, as long as humans exist. If you were able to ignore politics, it just means you were unaware of them, likely because they weren’t hurting you or anyone you cared about. The uptick in “toxic” posts in the last decade is because more people are in danger now, and are highly aware of it, and more people are actively dangerous, and are stirring the pot. It didn’t get more political, it got more dangerous.
In general I would argue that he has a good reputation, due to good marketing mostly. A great lot of people see him as some sort of “illuminated visionary” who fosters innovation for the Good™ and will save humanity with SpaceX, Tesla, etc. [I don’t agree personally to any of it but that’s another story].
Ugh, yeah, I don’t hate the guy, but I also think that anyone who still thinks he’s a visionary hasn’t actually been paying attention to his work/how his companies are going lately.
Honestly I haven’t heard any of my right wing coworkers etc… talk about this particular company, but I have heard a lot of elon worship from them. IE I hear a lot of them talk about how he’s gone so pro free speach with twitter. (and they tend to ignore me when I point out that he’s censoring every bit as much as the old twitter, he’s just nicer to the nazis and less nice to the left.
Ugh, yeah, that is a point of frustration I have with the family.
For them, it’s not so much “look what Musk is doing” so much as “look at how much better Twitter’s gotten”, which is particularly ripe cause none of them even use the platform. As I think on it, that probably means the big Fox talking heads are saying things like that.
I never got into Twitter myself (just never really understood / took to the format), which is kind of a shame cause I’d really like to be supporting Mastodon in this years surgance of the Fediverse.
I will one up you. I’d like to see something that shows body temperature, 02 saturation, and heart rate. Needs to be about the size of a grain of race and implanted in us right after birth. DING, your child has a fever. DING, your child is suffocating in their sleep.
I want you to think long and hard between the differences between not getting protection against a deadly, highly transmissible disease and not getting an iPhone implanted in your skull.
I’ll give you a hint. Only one of them actually endangers lives.
Do you know that if you decide you’re too cool for a jab that has been tested on literal billions of people and proven safe and effective in over 99.9% of cases, and end up getting COVID, not only could you be stuck with “long COVID” complications for life but you could also spread the disease to someone immunocompromised who isn’t eligible for the shot and will almost certainly die from it?
I could dig up several reputable sources to corroborate everything I just said, but first I’d like to ask if you have even one that calls it into question.
Give me one reason for not getting the shot besides opposing everything the government does because you want to feel like a special boy.
Alongside a medical bill to put the thing in. This isn’t charity, it’s America. You’ll be responsible for paying for the surgery and the rental fee of the courts chip. You don’t own that chip we forced you to put in your brain, you’re just renting it for the rest of your life.
Anyone seeing this might want to consider combat training and counter custody training while it’s easy, just in case this is the future we’re headed for. (Also Remember they’re not real people, they’re bureaucrats they’re the same as robots, don’t hold back.)
I remember reading an article just a few weeks ago about a company that made a combination prosthetic/implant for blind people to be able to see in the…early 2000s, I think? It was an early technology, low-rez, but somewhat miraculous for some.
And then the company went out of business.
As the implants began to wear out, or the software developed bugs, or the patients’ needs changed, things fell apart. They lost their vision and nobody could help them because the hardware and software were proprietary.
Now Elon Musk—with his reputation for quality control and following through with ideas and open source—wants to put things in our brains. Backed by the full faith and credit of Elon Musk.
One day he’s going to push down an update that makes everybody with a Neuralink stop and say “hehe butts” in a funny voice, and the tech bros will say “lol great meme Elon” even though a dozen of them got hit by a car because they were forced to stop while they walked across the street, and thirty of them lost their jobs because they said “hehe butts” to their managers, and one of them was a soldier who said “hehe butts” in an active warzone and blew the whole squad’s cover.
I can’t believe anyone is honestly entertaining this.
I welcome these regressive assholes getting a chip in their brain that has been shown to fry the brains of monkeys if they want it. Maybe we should even be campaigning for it in the South.
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