I’d be curious to see the data of married Hollywood celebrities and how long their relationships last vs how many intimate scenes they have on film are. Of course, the data would be nearly worthless because humans are complex and there are millions of valid reasons why a relationship would end, but I’d like to see the numbers, anyway.
Not in Hollywood, but a local actress here got divorced by her husband when he saw a sex scene in his wife’s new Netflix show. Apparently the actress didn’t tell her husband that the show would have some sex scenes and the husband got real mad. Why do Netflix shows always have unnecessary sex scenes anyway?
The Netflix Marvel shows they made had some pretty useless sex scenes that look very weird in Disney’s catalogue these days… And god damn the violence is turned to eleven compared to current Marvel shows! That 11 minute one take fight in Daredevil season 3 is hot as fuck!
Why do you think they are unnecessary? Do you say the same thing about violence scenes? I enjoy sex scenes much more than violence scenes and feel like movies just keep increasing the latter and decreasing the former.
As someone who too enjoys sex scenes in movies and doesn’t really get the hate for them - I really dislike (most) porn, and probably for the same reasons.
Sex and intimacy are a huge part of human relationships. Sex scenes in movies show (and not just tell) those relationships, where they stand, how they develop. There is no real intimacy in (most) porn. Porn doesn’t tell stories, it doesn’t show human relationships, it just depicts body parts smashing into each other basically. Very rarely a porn video is good enough to suspend my disbelief so I can imagine the important, the romantic part of it and forget that I’m watching either the product of an explorative industry or the fetish of a couple who film themselves because they like to have themselves watched by strangers. But to show me the dynamic between two fleshed out characters, how it changes over time, and what relevance sex has to them - porn can’t do that.
Those scenes can usually be replaced with a black screen and the plot won’t be affected at all. On the other hand, violence scene usually still affect the plot though some scenes are unnecessarily violent.
So Tom Cruise goes to dinner at his instructor’s house, black screen, there’s incredible tension afterwards between the two of them. Maybe she served bad shellfish and he’s upset? Who knows? Saying sex scenes are irrelevant to plots is just ridiculous. Stop typing online and Go back to picketing schools about removing Shakespeare and Balzac and other lewd literature from their shelves.
They can still show Tom Cruise flirting and leading the girl to a room, just don’t show the actual fucking. You know, like what old movies usually do to imply sex happened. Showing the actual sex is just makes it awkward when watching with friends and family and totally unnecessary for most shows unless the entire point of the show is about sex.
You realize you could just read a book about it too? Their are creative ways to avoid showing just about anything in a movie. But this isn’t what the poster was talking about. They were talking about censorship with a black screen.
I’m not saying to ban all sex scenes from all shows, but when a significant proportion of new shows these days include sex scenes compared to shows from the previous decades, it’s clear that netflix producers just shoving them into shows even if it’s not relevant to the show’s plot. A litmus test for this is if you can replace those soft core scenes with black screen and the plot is literally unaffected, then sex scenes on that show would provide no actual value beyond fan service. Of course, not all shows are like this, but a significant proportion of them do these days, which is why a lot of people (inculding me) is getting fed up with them.
Action scenes and sex scenes are just not comparable. Watching action scenes usually don’t make people want to punch other people. On the other hand, watching porns makes either make people horny or uncomfortable depending on their situation. Also, you can easily avoid action scenes by not watching action shows. On the other hand, sex scenes has creep into all genres these days. Watching an alien movies? Boom, sudden sex scenes. Watching a docudrama? Boom, also sudden sex scenes. I’m not complaining if it weren’t for filtering out shows with sex tags basically filter out most shows made in recent years.
On the other hand, watching porns makes either make people horny or uncomfortable depending on their situation.
For teenagers maybe. Most adults can regulate their emotions enough to handle it. I mean, if you watch movies with your mother on a regular basis just laugh akwardly over all the scenes she doesn’t want you to see and that’s it. With anyone else, why does it bother you if they’re watching with a smirk? It’s not like people break out into orgies watching a small sex scene.
I think what’s happening with people getting overly irritated with sex scenes in movies is, in last consequence, the habit of puritan self-censorship. “Oh, we shouldn’t watch that and be aroused by it, that’s so indicent. I will be embarrassed if someone catches me doing such a shameful thing.”
Once you accept how normal and beautiful human sexuality is, sex scenes become just that - normal. A realistic part of the stories we like to be told.
I have to disagree here. Everyone is not the same and many people are not comfortable watching porns with other people, or even alone by themselves (e.g. abuse victims, etc). My point is there should be an option to avoid watching those scenes, which is increasingly not the case here because new shows includes them as if there is a “has borderline porn sex scenes” checkbox that must be ticked off in Netflix production department before new shows got greenlighted. Trying to not watching shows with those scenes means not watching most recently produced shows at all.
It’s impossible to avoid every possible trauma trigger when making a movie. The fact that some people might seriously be unable to watch sex scenes shouldn’t mean we cannot make them at all. If sex is an absolute red flag for you in movies, watch PG-13.
Other example: My mom doesn’t like violence in movies. (Doesn’t mind sex scenes btw.) And that just means she can’t (and doesn’t want to) watch most recently produced shows. And that’s just how it is.
Obviously there’s a market for movies with sex scenes in them, or Hollywood wouldn’t make them. You will just have to live with the fact that your in the minority here.
Yeah it’s a gen Z thing apparently. There is more of a demand for action, violence, and superheroes that cry. Suprising to me as I see romance as an escape from all the ugliness around us.
I’m a millennial but I don’t really like romance/romcom all that much for the most part unless it’s in anime format for some reason. For movies and even TV I generally prefer action, violence, thrillers, etc. I have no idea why, I think it’s kind of interesting that the medium changes my preferences so much lol
Depends on how they set boundaries in their marriage, which they absolutely should have. Movie sex usually has a completely different motive and execution than regular cheating.
More context needed though I guess by the sheer fact the husband got mad we can infere she would expect it and it’s not a matter of “oops I forgot because this happens all the time” kind of thing.
Man, a group like Info Wars would probably love data like. They could prop it up as “proof” that the Hollywood elite are corrupt and eroding traditional values.
(Hey, if any conservative talking heads really do want to run with this, please credit me and invite me on so I can make jokes at your expense)
Be as secure as you will, if you see your SO in a romance scene in a typical hig h profile movie with all the right camera angles and music and all... it's bound to do at least something to you, right?
I'm not suggesting that they might assume any of the acted scene had real feelings behind it. Yet still, visually seeing your SO seemingly doing intimate stuff will make you feel something. You might not be jealous or anything, yet still. That has nothing to do with insecurity. You can feel awkward without jealousy, can't you?
There are plenty of people who are completely comfortable with their partners being strippers or porn stars. It’s just their work at the end of the day.
I’m sure plenty of people don’t really feel anything about it.
There are plenty of people who are completely comfortable with their partners being strippers or porn stars.
From a purely logical standpoint, given the number of strippers and porn stars out there, that statement must be true. It’s not quite something I can wrap my head around though.
there are also people who genuinely feel happy for their SOs in these situations. Compersion is real and fucking wonderful. not enough people know 'bout it.
As a former polyamoric person, here’s how I (still) think of it: You can’t control your feelings (they are merely physical reactions to situations) but you can control how you deal with them. Or how you act on them.
So in a sense, in my opinion, you’re both correct.
I mean, it comes down to jealousy, right? And that’s an emotion… You can’t really control your emotions
I think it’s more a matter of “is this a deal breaker”. Some people just might avoid those movies, some people might need to see it and get reassurance, some people can’t handle it at all. And some people just aren’t bothered - there’s people who are fine with their partner dating other people so long as they come home at the end of the night
Not really. Especially when you know what goes into filming them. From modesty underwear to lighting to 30 people around you just doing their thing for the production.
As a spouse of an actor you’d think you know just how “fake” the music and emotional impact is.
Yeah, and that something can be communicated. But at the end of the day it’s their job. I follow a therapist on YouTube that talks about his wife’s modeling career on occasion and he never really cared. He saw the work that goes into it and knows it’s just that - work. I think on the rare occasions it did bring up some feelings of jealousy he communicated the insecurity and got reassurance from her. That obviously worked well enough that they’ve been married a couple decades.
On the work end, keep in mind how many times they have to shoot scenes/photos and how extremely unromantic/inauthentic it is.
Just because you wouldn’t be doesn’t mean everyone is the same, people have feelings. Even polyamorous people get jealous at times, it’s a normal thing.
I’m so secure that my wife’s boyfriend told me he was taking her away to the cabin for the weekend and I decided I’d have the guys over for a poker night. They’re just good friends.
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