Browning,

It’s a choice. I could stop any time I like!

SolarNialamide,

Yeah, I just voluntarily chose to do it for 9 years every single day, even though I didn’t actually like it anymore the last 2 of those.

scifu,

There is chemical addiction and there is psychological addiction. Weed might not be chemically addictive but it can sure be psychologically addictive which is true with most stoners.

user1919,

Which category do tea and coffee fall into?

paperclip,

I had ChatGPT answer this like a stoner:

Dude, coffee and tea are loaded with this incredible compound called caffeine. It’s like a chemical wizard that messes with your brain in two ways: chemically and mentally. Chemically, caffeine hooks onto these receptors in your brain, blocking this chill neurotransmitter called adenosine. So instead of feeling relaxed and sleepy, you’re all pumped up and alert.

But that’s not all, man. When you consume caffeine regularly, your body becomes physically dependent on it. So, if you suddenly stop guzzling that liquid goodness, you’re gonna feel some withdrawal symptoms like headaches, fatigue, and even crankiness. It’s like your body is saying, “Hey, where’s my daily dose of that buzz?”

And let’s not forget about the mental game. Coffee and tea can be habit-forming, creating this psychological attachment. You know, that warm mug, that familiar taste, it becomes a part of your routine, man. Plus, the stimulating effects of caffeine can make you crave that buzz, that laser-focused state of mind.

So, there you have it, bro. Coffee and tea aren’t just about flavor and ritual; they mess with your brain chemistry and play tricks on your mind. It’s like a wild ride, all packed into a cup.

Taika,

I don’t agree with that chemical/psychological distinction. Weed and other drugs mess with your neurotransmitters/receptors which are fundamental to our psychological functioning, you can’t draw a line and say this is chemical addiction that causes you to vomit, sweat, and shake, and this is some higher level ”I want it cause it makes me feel nice” addiction. It’s the same thing, just not as severe. And heavy chronic weed use absolutely will cause uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms like headaches, irritability, mood swings, apathy etc.

fugepe,

they hated him bc he was telling them the truth

navitux,
@navitux@lemmy.world avatar

bruh

VubDapple,

What a portrait of primate anger it is.

Kushia,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

Honestly, I use it about once a week. I have friends who get drunk more frequently then that. I can see why people would use it every day but they shouldn’t imo.

Faust223,

Okay, you’re probably addicted and your friends are clearly alcoholic.

Retirix_YT,

Tbf once a week is hardly an addiction lol

vimdiesel,

Bruh have you ever met an addict of any sort at all in your life? Addictions aren’t a once a week sort of thing

Faust223,

A person who goes out and gets absolutely wasted every single weekend is very much addicted to alcohol and probably an alcoholic. I don’t see how using weed would be any different.

“oh I’ve got my heroin use under control. I only inject on fridays” absurd. Once a week is definitely an addiction.

TrontheTechie,

Addiction, medically at least, has to do with compulsion, not frequency. A person who has a cigar on the weekends, or a single cigarette at night after the kids go to bed, isn’t necessarily doing it compulsively, or to a degree that it negatively effects their life (aside from the whole smoking thing). Now does that in and of itself mean you SHOULD go do that? I would say no, especially with alcohol, nicotine, opiates, cocaine, etc. but would anyone from a medical standpoint say they were an addict? Not if they knew what they were talking about.

That brings us to the flip side of that, now if you WERE the kind of person that did it on the weekends with enough frequency your brain will start to desensitize to the dopamine dump, and start to offload that behavior to your prefrontal cortex, making it a subconscious action, and eventually lead to that compulsion that we call addiction. This effect is multiplied if you allow yourself to be distracted while you do the thing, as you are strengthening the subconscious pathways of that action.

Anyway, I think the middle path would probably be the best. No need to completely abstain 100% from EVERYTHING, and no reason to let ANYTHING become a subconscious habit that controls us without our understanding.

TL:DR Asceticism = bad extreme indulgence = bad Allow yourself to be human, but be ultra mindful of your human condition

XpeeN,

Why you assume he got wasted every time? There different ways to get different levels of high. I like using cannabis but I hardly get wasted anymore (last time was years ago tbh). I do get medicated though, fully functional. Highly recommend dry herb vapes for these purposes btw. !vaporents coming soon

Kushia,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

I use it medically prescribed by a doctor to help with my ex-military PTSD and chronic pain issues. I used to take 3 different crazy ass medications before that which turned me into a vegetable 24/7 so this is much better. I don’t get couch locked and stop once I feel the effects.

I can see why some others might get the wrong impression by my username though haha.

XpeeN,

Yeah I get you, it can be useful at bunch of different cases. It has so much more than just getting wasted off an entire evening.

Feel well fellow lemmy user :)

1rre,

People react differently to all substances, the real test for addiction is if you can stop doing it for say, 3 weeks in a row, not how often you do it… You can do it once a month and still be addicted but as long as you can stop for 3-4x longer than you usually would, you’re probably not

fugepe,

Stop your bullshit every person I know who smokes uses it regularly

Wooly,

Because I’m bored, I don’t smoke when I have to do shit like work. But I’m never doing shit.

phorq,

Why don’t you look for a hobby, there’s nothing stopping you from doing that while high at first either. Might even make it more interesting.

Wooly,

I have a couple hobbies, and I do them high. I’ve never really wanted to do anything even before starting to smoke. Weed just makes a boring life slightly less boring and makes time pass faster. I’m honestly just tryna speed run life so I can die sooner.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Yeah you sound pretty boring indeed

Wooly,

I AM boring without my friends. But let’s not kid ourselves, the majority of life is boring.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Well then go ahead and surrender yourself to being bored for the rest of your life. That way you won’t even realize how fulfilling some seemingly ‘boring’ these can be when you have a healthy mind and lifestyle. Ignorance truly is bliss. But if you’re okay with that then sure, it doesn’t affect me. I can only hope you don’t turn in to another suicidal maniac in a couple decades once you’ve grown tired of neglecting your own mental health.

Wooly,

Oh I’m good, been passively waiting to die for a while now and don’t have a violent bone in my body.

When you disagree with the core concept of life and society/people there’s not much that would make life better. I’m done meeting people. Just tryna get through life as fast as possible and retire early then die.

suckaduck,
@suckaduck@lemmy.world avatar

I recognize Jan’s eyes anytime

Noah,
@Noah@lemmy.world avatar

I acknowledge I’m addicted. I smoke every day, but it doesn’t have any negative effects on my life. I guess I’m a “productive stoner type” and the same can’t be said for everyone but in general I think it makes my life better.

I_Has_A_Hat,

My tolerance is high enough that it doesn’t impair me, it just helps me relax and keep my anxiety in check. I can and do take tolerance breaks every once and a while, so I absolutely could stop. I do also acknowledge that I’m addicted but everyone needs their own way to cope with the world and there’s much worse vice’s out there.

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

You at the demonstrabely false claims competitions:

Jokes aside, I can smoke once a day, once a week or once a month, it doesn’t change much, it’d not like your beloved alcohol

Retirix_YT,

Alcohol 🤢🤮

taanegl,

Why? My guy, have you seen the world? Have you seen how people treat each other? If you don’t smoke I don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, but if it’s to be “a moral and upstanding citizen” I both laugh and cry at your blissful ignorance.

Retirix_YT,

I don’t like smoking.

illectrility,
@illectrility@lemmy.world avatar

me neither

Retirix_YT,

Don’t like how it feels.

taanegl,

Fair enough to all three of you, just let me have my weed in peace.

Retirix_YT,

Of course i have nothing against people who take weed, i just personally don’t like the feeling of alcohol/weed or anything like that. Makes me feel like I’m not in control of myself. I hate not being in control of myself.

illectrility,
@illectrility@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t care if anyone smokes. Just don’t annoy me with it. People smoking in public places and giving you free lung cancer is my worst pet peeve.

Thats why I hate smoking more than drinking. Drinking doesn’t make me want to cough my lungs out and doesn’t endanger me directly when someone does it. Smoking does.

StayBuoyant,

I seriously doubt you’re near enough second hand pot smoke to get cancer compared to like whatever’s ins the water or like idk I feel like micro plastics in your blood should be a bigger concern. But hey everyone’s entitled to their own version of paranoia. Gotta keep these meat suits living as long as possible, right?

Retirix_YT,

It does smell wrank tho

StayBuoyant,

I mean so do a lot of things that people enjoy. Bar dwellers smell like pee and vomit. Boiled cabbage smells rank aswell. Idk your point. I’m just saying you’re more at risk from other things than “second hand cancer pot smoke”. Does it smell bad sure but so do comic cons.

Retirix_YT,

I don’t like alcohol either. Just not for me

StayBuoyant,

Fair enough haha good point. Hope we can agree to enjoy our own things as long as we arnt hurting anyone…whatever that thing may be.

illectrility,
@illectrility@lemmy.world avatar

I meant tobacco with the whole lung cancer thing. But tbh you can’t escape poisening yourself if you have a fairly regular life. Cars, processed foods, plastics; all that kind of stuff is very hard to avoid for most people. With smoking I just really hate the smell (I’m hypersensitive) and the fact that smoker’s poor decisions often times directly impact the people around them

StayBuoyant,

Yeah I feel you. Tobacco is terrible. I’m happy a lot of places have done away even with smoking sections. As for cannabis I smoke at home so I rarely find myself endangering others. But I guess it’s a respect thing. I wouldn’t blow my smoke in someone’s face much like they won’t force me to listen to country music.

yogo,

You need to take some shrooms and realize you’re never really in control of yourself

Retirix_YT,

Absolutely not

Squiglet,

Well it really isn’t addictive as opiates for example are. You wont become chemically dependant to it. The kind of addiction it causes is the same one that social media, TV, gaming, etc might cause. It becomes an habit and you get used to that. I know this is a simplification but this is how I see it.

Rhin0,

Weed is not going to ruin your life the same way like benzos and alcohol would. If you smoke everyday then you probably aren’t very productive, but you are not actively ruining your life.

Weed is dangerous because of how safe it is. It makes you ok with being bored and not progressing/growing as a person. Alcohol addiction will straight up make you homeless.

rarely,

If you aren’t very productive you haven’t found the right strain… or you’re eating edibles.

TwanHE,

Ive honestly stopped buying the different strains have different effects talk. No matter what I smoke I get stoned and lazy af. Not that that’s bad, it’s just what happens.

sneakycow,

Same here. Tried indica because it “slows you down” vs sativa, and all the hybrids in between. All are the same affects

STUPIDVIPGUY,

I’ve definitely noticed a slight difference but no strain is going to suddenly make you productive. Maybe you want to be productive but you feel tired and crappy because you’re too sober, and getting a fix helps. Doesn’t mean the weed is actually helping you it just means you’re addicted

rarely,

Good that you know your self in that case. Not all bodies react the same way. I know folks who can’t get high from smoking but do from edibles, and vice versa.

TwanHE,

Still get stoned from edibles unless I throw some other stuff in the mix.

ruck_feddit,

Someone else said it, but I agree:

if alcohol were discovered today, it would 100% be illegal in no time

rarely,

Weed is illegal federally, but it keeps getting produced at a state level. This really worries me, si to try to rectify this situation, I have just been buying and burning as much as I can. I don’t know how much of an effect its having because I just keep seeing more pop up.

I will continue despite it seeming more and more like a fools errand.

Iron_Lynx,

Notice that this previous comment holds with certainty for the United States Of America. Your mileage may vary depending on your area.

If for instance on the other hand, you live in The Netherlands, having small amounts of cannabis to use is legal.

rarely,

So glad that isn’t the case here. Burning small amounts would get me no where.

secproto,

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  • howsetheraven,

    Woosh

    rarely,

    Why is it who’s problem? Sorry I am a little confused. This damn smoke keeps getting in my eyes. Maybe I should burn this outdoors instead.

    MiddleWeigh,
    @MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

    Weed def has some mild physical withdrawal, but nothing like opiates/benzos/or alcohol. It’s not soul crushing ftmp.

    But I consider anything needed outside of myself to function as an inconvenience, so that’s pretty much life as a whole. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. Gotta consume the world to experience it. I try to limit my consumption these days.

    rarely,

    Same with naps.

    captainjaneway,
    @captainjaneway@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m addicted to naps for sure

    fugepe,

    Goddamn I hate potheads and that includes my brother

    rarely,

    Send me his weed and I will burn it.

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