EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

If a woman won’t marry you without a diamond ring, she’s not worth your time. Get her zero jewelry and if she stays with you, she’s a keeper.

KeenFlame,

All right she left and the kids are scared what’s my next move

nyoooom,

Knight in D2

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Find a better woman who doesn’t want jewlery.

dansity,

Opals are the superior stone and they actually look awsome. Transparent glass like stones are so boring. They are also much cheaper and not harvested with child labor.

nohaybanda,

Jade gang

Son_of_dad,

My wife’s is made of a purple sapphire as the main stone with a small diamond on each side. She loves the purple. The diamonds I didn’t pay for, they were her grandmother’s that I got from her sister.

pewnit,

Moissanite

cucumber_sandwich,

Dont opals lose their shine or something over time due to being hydrophilic?

MagicPterodactyl,

Opals are soft as hell. Not really a diamond replacement.

dansity,

I’m not talking about replacing your diamond drill bit with opal. I mean jewellery

NotThatKindofDoctor,

Rings, like engagement/wedding rings, can take quite a beating. You need a hard stone or it won’t really last very long.

I have a lab Ruby in my engagement ring and then lab diamonds around it. The lab Ruby is a good alternative because it’s a hard stone! Sapphires and alexandrite are also just as hard and could be good stones in a ring you’d wear everyday.

LilB0kChoy,

This is what we did. I got my wife a nice ice blue sapphire center stone instead of a diamond. It was less expensive, durable and more unique.

atrielienz,

My engagement ring used sapphire. Beautiful stone.

Xanthrax,
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

It’s more dropping or getting scratched, but I’ll admit I’ve never seen opal break.

lud,

Why does harness matter? You are supposed to wear them, not cut or drill with them.

shuzuko,

Hardness absolutely matters in rings. Not as much in pendants or earrings, but people don’t realize how rough they are with their hands. Most people do not take their rings off to wash their hands, or do their laundry, or, or, or. So many things have unexpected abrasives that may just feel a little rough on your skin, but can significantly damage a soft stone like opal. In a rush and accidentally bang your hand against the door frame? Chipped opal. Back of your hand itches, so you rub it against your jeans briefly? Scratched opal. They’re very fragile stones.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

An engagement ring is worn on your hand pretty much all the time. Opals are easily damaged, diamonds are exceptionally durable.

RizzRustbolt,

Hematite. The most metal gemstone.

windowlicker,
@windowlicker@hexbear.net avatar

has anyone else been getting tons of ads (on streaming services mostly) literally about this? i keep getting these ads about how you should only purchase natural diamonds because only they matter or something and put some pretty woman in the ad to convince you. it’s pretty disgusting to make a commercial promoting diamonds stolen from the global south and brushing off synthetic diamonds even if they are literally the exact same rock.

Abnorc,

It’s not true love if no one dies in the mines.

Catsrules,

Ahh a true romantic I see.

Batpool23,

I got my wife a moissanite ring. Looks great and just about as strong as diamond. It is time to use advertisements as guide what not to buy.

PolarisFx,
@PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I bought my wife a moissanite ring and she refused it. Chinese girls man…

feedum_sneedson,

They don’t really care for diamonds anyway, just buy gold.

PolarisFx,
@PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Oh no she’s a science teacher and is obsessed with the hardness of diamonds. I bought her a synthetic which she wasn’t pleased with but I’ve had words about I feel about DeBeers and diamonds in general. Love won out, or begrudgingly won out in the end.

feedum_sneedson,

Interesting!

Karyoplasma,

My cousin’s ex-wife is Chinese. She left him because their son of 2 has chronic asthma and that interferes with her career.

Chinese girls, man…

PolarisFx,
@PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ahh I know the type, mine isn’t that bad but maybe had she went into a different field she might’ve ended up that way. The men in her family are that way though. One’s a cardiologist, didn’t have kids on purpose. Married a woman with an older kid, doesn’t really parent just throws money at the kid.

Double_A,
@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I hope you refused her. Would probably make your life easier in the long term?

PolarisFx,
@PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My life is actually easier long term. I’ve never been attracted to white women. My mom is an affluent white Karen, my sister is on her way to being the same. My dad and sisters SO are constantly fighting, mostly to get them to shut up for 5 mins.

My wife is cold, blunt and super hot. She looks just as good at 40 as she did at 20. Leaves me alone to do my own thing, when we found out I was shooting blanks it wasn’t a huge deal, she was upset we wouldn’t have a kid but she stuck with me anyway. I’ve gotten used to the way she is and will play damage control when she has to deal with other white people. I am a glorified man servant to her whims sometimes.

But at the end of the day I’m happy. Which is more than I can say for my closest friends who have been through multiple divorces

fadhl3y,

DeBeers have massive investments in the synthetic diamond industry. They are actually world leaders and have known that it’s possible to produce higher quality diamonds at a much lower cost. They make a killing selling synthetic diamonds to industry.

DagothUr,

Nerevar, you foolish mortal! I have heard your lamentations about the cost of diamonds and how they are too expensive for how common they are. I agree, and I know who to blame. The Bear Company, which holds a monopoly on the diamond industry, is rigging the supply to keep prices high. They use propaganda to create a demand that is disproportionate to the real value of diamonds. What fools they are to think that they can hide such deception from me. I, Lord Dagoth, master of these lands, see through their shallow deceit and call for justice. Now please leave. I have to write upset words on this piece of parchment to show the world how angry i am. Nerevar, do you have a stick with you? Maybe also a stapler? Nerevar please go to the next trader and aquire a new Edding for me. I have let the cap open for too long and now my Edding has dried out.

So_zetta_slowpoke,

Is this how you honor the Sixth House and the tribe unmourned?

executive_chicken,

Look up moissanite. It’s literally the cheaper, superior diamond. The fact that it exists just goes to show how inflated the diamond market is

PhlubbaDubba,

Saw a story about a wedding ring where instead of a diamond the ring was jeweled with the couple’s birth stones fit together into the shape of a heart, which honestly I think is WAY better and probably WAY cheaper too.

somethingsnappy,

As long as one the birth months isn’t April.

cucumber_sandwich,

What are birth stones?

LogicalDrivel,
@LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz avatar

Birthstones are like the zodiac signs of geology. Each month gets assigned a gemstone.

feedum_sneedson,

One of which is diamond, annoyingly enough.

tigeruppercut,

There’s some religious history to them, but in general these days people are talking about the list of stones that American jewelers came up with in the early 20th century to try to sell more shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthstone?useskin=vector

fristislurper,
@fristislurper@feddit.nl avatar

Moissanite is chemically different to diamond (SiC vs C), has a different crystal structure, and is less hard. You can also get actual lab-grown diamond, but they are quite expensive. But you probabaly won’t be able to tell the difference anyway.

hperrin,

Usually you can tell the difference. Lab grown diamond is pure while rock grown diamond is imperfect.

But you have to look at it under a magnifying glass to tell, and know what you’re looking for.

TheActualDevil,

But also, who cares that it’s less hard? I’m not using it for a drill bit, it’s a cosmetic piece. Literally it’s only function is visual. And moissanite is superior. All the visual markers that are used for beauty in a diamond it surpasses. And some quick googling I did to confirm that also showed me that diamond is only barely harder (“With a hardness of 9.25, moissanite is the second-hardest material used a gemstone.” a diamond is a 10.) and it turns out, less likely to break in some cases. “Moissanite doesn’t have a cleavage plane, while diamond does. (This is an internal plane along which a diamond crystal can easily split)” So if you hit a diamond in the wrong spot, it can still crack. Moissanite does not have a weak spot.

source

Chunk,

It’s very important to me that my gemstone only has carbon. If it has silicon I’m going to get very upset. Silicon interferes with your inner flow and can have harmful ions.

  • my crystal wearing, hippy Grandma.
ImFresh3x,

It’s like 93% as hard but has better better optical properties which is what matters.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

A strategy that has been working well for me is “Never buy jewelry of any kind ever because it’s completely pointless.”

Sami_Uso,

Everything can be pointless when it comes down to it. I never ever wore jewelry but when I got married we got really nice matching plain bands and now I never take it off and quite like how it looks, it’s not pointless to me.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

There will be no rings for me. I run too many power tools for that.

Omega_Haxors,

Don’t hang around people who demand you consume in order to get their approval. They are empty people who will not support you.

flicker,

My nightmare of a previous boss called my moissanite engagement ring "cheap" and "trashy," and treated us to a 30-minute speech about how if it's not "real" diamond, it doesn't count.

I hope sucking down those Marlboro blacks takes care of that problem of a woman sooner, rather than later, and in the meantime the gorgeous rainbow sparkle of my pretty ring is made all the more beautiful for the complete lack of child slavery that went into making it!

... I also just realized that horrible harridan didn't have an engagement ring, or even a boyfriend, and now some things make sense.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

We all have these people in our jobs, don’t we? I‘m practicing to engage them with a therapist rn. Have been through abuse when I was young and they love to dump on me. My new goal is to pin a notice on my wall that I get for telling the next bully where to stick it (in public). Lets see how that goes.

TheActualDevil,

“I consider this harassment inappropriate for a workplace. I’d rather not get HR involved.”

Key words from the employee manual or even better, HR training. No emotion, just stating facts. Don’t trust HR, but management knows that more than anyone. They use it as a bludgeon against employees all the time, they know it could be turned against them just as easily.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Good advice! Thank you :)

Batpool23,

Moissanite is a perfect replacement of a diamond. Definitely agree that it looks great, better off putting the money towards something that will actually enhance your life.

RizzRustbolt,

It’s got a higher refractory index than diamonds.

HurlingDurling,

I would have just sat there quietly and when she finished answered her with “well, that’s your opinion”

I don’t care if I depend on my job and my boss is a POS, my self worth is more valuable than any job.

oatscoop,

I usually take a month off of work in the fall each year. One of my bucket list items is taking that time off to find a job with the worst bosses and seeing how far I can go while giving no fucks.

Franzia,

This sounds really fun

Omega_Haxors,

Average employer. I bet they only see diamonds as legitimate because of the slave labour put into them.

spookedbyroaches,

The diamond industry sucks don’t get me wrong. But the real culpurists are the dumbfuck diamond buyers.

My friend is a diamond salesperson and told me a story about one of their customers. They were looking at different pieces and the customer kept asking about the purity of the diamonds in the piece. Whenever my friend said it’s “SI,” the customer would be visibly disappointed and would ask for “VS” or “VVS” which are purer. My friend then got annoyed a bit and told the customer that purity doesn’t matter once you reach “SI” since the impurities are not really visible by the naked eye. He even showed the customer 2 pieces with one looking 10 times better than the other but has SI diamonds and the non-pretty piece has VS diamonds. He asked the customer to tell him which is which and the customer wrongly said the SI one was more pure. Even after he revealed his ruse and showed that purity doesn’t matter much, the customer kept asking for more pure pieces as if nothing happened.

These “people” literallly are willingly being lied to, and they like it. If a diamond buyer saw a piece, told you they love it, told you they would buy it, then you told them it’s a synthetic, they would be disgusted. It’s bullshit from all sides and they deserve eachother.

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There’s a concept, ‘conspicuous consumption,’ that people will use products in such a way for their social power regardless of anything else. So getting higher quality diamonds, whatever imperceptible difference it has, is still worth it to be seen as affording the higher tier. One of the ways in which market economies poison the brain.

Signtist,

I feel like the high-end buyer’s don’t care about how much they like their possessions, they care about how expensive their possessions sound when described to others. They couldn’t tell that the SI was less pure, but they knew they couldn’t describe it to their friends as the purest, so they didn’t care.

spookedbyroaches,

Funny thing is that this comes from middle class people. There’s still VVS and flawless diamonds which are significantly more expensive. But they can’t afford one that looks any good. Given the choice they’d absolutely burn their money to buy those though.

Helmic,

If it’s wedding ring, the marketing has been about how the purity of the diamond is symbolic of the purity of one’s love. So picking an uglier, but purer, diamond then coild be about prioritizing love over beauty or whatever in that person’s head.

So not necessarily exclusive to people wanting to present themselves as wealthy, that sort of emotional manipulation convinces broke people to blow their savings on a ring all the time.

Omega_Haxors,

The people who don’t deserve this are the slavers who make gorillians off the abusive trade, plus the slaves who are forced to work the mines.

SeaJ,

Quality synthetic diamonds are still bloody expensive.

superbirra,

the point here is about logistics, not giving diamonds to the poor.

Vyllenor,

My gf asked me to not give her a ring when I’ll propose, but a zweihander instead :D

LogicalDrivel,
@LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz avatar

She sounds like a keeper!

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Player 2 has entered the game! Congrats to both of you

My partner and I just bought our own rings since we both have pretty particular tastes haha

Franzia,

I’ve never even thought of that! How cute!

RizzRustbolt,

A diamond sword is going to cost a hell of a lot more.

float,

Just craft one yourself, it’s not that hard. Chop a few trees for the wood, craft the workbench, dig down a bit for the diamonds and there you go!

Karyoplasma,

You should put a ring on that. Oh wait.

reverendsteveii, (edited )

www.ebay.com/itm/195430621450

Do I trust ebay? Not really. Is this a fair sized diamond, cut, for $10? It claims to be.

edit: my bad, synthetic diamonds are also known as moissanite and aren’t actually diamonds. Here’s a link to two lab grown diamonds, cut, for like $30

www.ebay.com/itm/126018751890

feedum_sneedson,

And they are literally the same thing, which is very funny to me. Like, they are flawless diamonds, so now apparently the imperfections are what cost money? Except the cost of natural diamonds is higher when they have fewer imperfections? Diamonds are bullshit.

Karyoplasma,

Nah, people are bullshit. Diamonds have uses for grinding and cutting.

Franzia,

I searched Moissanite last week and found a website that charges thousands upon thousands for moissanite jewelry.

RonPaulyShore,
@RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net avatar

the alchemists could’ve been successful, and all the gold mine barons would’ve been: so, actually, well, you can’t see it, but I assure you, and the experts will agree, that there is actually a very fine, yes, a very fine distinction (if you can notice it, it really means you have a refined sense of taste, yes) in shimmer between ersatz, synthetic gold from the alchemist, and that the rare, natural from the earth. Ah . . . . well yes, you’re right, the natural gold is ever so slightly duller, but, you see

Helmic,

And the absurd thing is that we probably should use natural diamonds for jewelry, as it is a waste to synthesize such a common rock. If they weren’t hoarded and aggressively marketed as something you have to have, they could just be a neat rock some people are into, there wouldn’t be child slaves dying to dig them out of the ground.

GregoryTheGreat,

I bet they are selling real diamonds as lab diamonds.

Revan343,

Naw, synthetic diamonds are cheaper, there’s no point selling natural ones and pretending they’re synthetic.

Gabu,

They’re literally sitting on mountains-full of excavated natural diamonds.

Revan343,

Which they want to sell at inflated 'natural diamond’s prices, not cheaper ‘lab diamond’ prices. So their goal is to try and convince people lab diamonds aren’t as good or ‘don’t count’; pretending natural diamonds are lab grown isn’t going to help with that. And would probably make the industry look even worse than it already does once they get caught, which they would

TopRamenBinLaden,

I’ll also add that diamonds don’t expire or go down in price. Storage costs are also very cheap compared to pretty much any other product. Basically, they are extremely cheap to hoard until they sell for the price that the owner wants them to sell for.

feedum_sneedson,

I’m sure they can go down in price.

TopRamenBinLaden,

You are right. I guess I meant to say that there is no incentive to lower the price, because storing them is dirt cheap. The people that are hoarding them are able to keep the price high, unlike most other goods that have some sort of a shelf life or a smaller period of time to make profit.

AngryMulbear,

I bought my wife a lab diamond, it’s nearly flawless.

You just can’t fake that with a natural diamond, it’s too rare.

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