Since I am side loading Apollo still, Reddit overall is still good. I currently don’t see much change because of this. However, when my RedditAPI key is revoked and I’m unable to generate a new API key, there is no way I can keep using it. I’ve got 5 different Reddit apps on my phone, including Apollo, and they all suck.
Dude just ditch Reddit. They’re getting users to pay people to shitpost and are taking a cut, they also removed the ability to opt out of tracking for ads. All in like 3 days!
Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I’ve seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they’re still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.
Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.
Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit…but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.
if you have been back to reddit, they might have growing numbers (probably due to shitty practices forcing you to use their app instead of mobile browser) etc. but the quality of discussions and the amount of bots just reposting the same comments skyrocketed.
I mean it’s a huge site, it won’t die, but if you look at it that way, Facebook is still alive, do you have a desire to spend time on that site though?
Pleased to say I haven’t been back to Reddit (except to scrub my entire history there to nuke my account). Reddit quality going completely down the toilet is something seen long before these changes were made. It’s really sad to see that companies aren’t forced to make better products because people will put time and money into these shit platforms regardless.
yeah I already noticed the downhill trend before the API changes but after it really went into a nosedive, expectedly the power users posting good shit just left, so rage bait reposts are the trending things.
I have been back to reddit to check things out from time to time. The quality has definitely degraded, and their changes to not seeing NSFW stuff without logging in or using their app has me visiting less and less.
The comment section is still nice, but I just don’t see the quality it once had.
The burden of proof lies in the eyes of the Christian god! And as a fellow Muslim, I can say nothing about it, but He might speak through me and say that Reddit became a place without much new content.
I don’t save sources in case of future need for references. I haven’t written a thesis on the matter. It came up in a few articles in my tech news RSS feeds. You’re welcome to not believe me and I would readily consider contrary information anyone else offers it.
Only a good 0.1% of reddit actually “creates content” with the rest having only engagement via comments. A good 99% of those also don’t do anything but lurk.
The people that make the content are also the ones more likely to switch to alternatives.
It’s an engagement loop so while the amount of signups and accounts is unchanged, there is simply less content to keep people around and to monetize.
We can take a look at the comment count on major subreddits over time. Using the top 5 most commented listed on Subreddit Stats, and then using Social Rise to see comments per day (go down to “Graph of” and click “comments”).
All except Starfield show comments cratering at the beginning of July, and they’re not coming back. Obviously, Starfield is a special case given the release of the game. AITAH was also just starting to pick up and then had its jugular cut out. Across the board, there looks to be a 3 or 4 times reduction in comment rates.
Now, perhaps the site is still OK among the more niche subreddits. That’d take a lot longer to analyze. But it’s clear the big traffic drivers are not pulling people in anymore.
While I overall agree this seems to be the case at first glance, I do notice that august there’s a huge drop that correlates with school starting up again. Probably need to compare to previous summers.
Edit: looks like it's still pretty huge even accounting for that
Good to know, i was having trouble on mobile with it. Thanks!
I'm glad I left that site. They just view us all as little addicts and have lost any semblance of caring about what made reddit work in the first place.
I just have a hard time believing this when the_donald started on reddit. The site has been an incubator for right wing actors for years. Even the infamous Stormfront recognized the opportunities for recruitment there years ago.
Reddit is driven by search traffic and the results got a lot worse since a lot of good posters quit. They lost the content but not the users yet, I think it’s just going to take a long time before they truly see the damage in their traffic statistics!
No matter what this 40 year old boomer ass Lemmy user base says, TikTok is amazing and some people are doing some really incredible things on it. You should give it a shot.
I don’t use tiktok or any other shit social media like that. I had reddit for the communities and now this place for the same reason…which it’s mainly memes at best. Using tiktok makes you a fucking idiot…
Ya, because most of Lemmy userbase is from Reddit, the “American” website that bullied a kid into killing themselves, because they were “helping” find the boston bomber.
yeah, let me just have all my data leaked one day, address, name, photos, card details, passwords, my own and foreign governments can have that data too just for the extra cherry on top. let them also profile me across the internet so I can be stalked even easier, what a great idea.
some people don’t want to be tracked, have their data trained on ai, have their data leaked and sold on the dark web, have their accounts compromised. they might even require it for work or in general to not literally fucking die or lose their job as well
I’d worry more about the US which directly controls the state I live in over the guys chilling 3000 miles away. Its really a false equivalence to compare the two.
it is if one is far away and the US has active control over all western countries (I assume you live in a US bloc country), I’m going to be way more concerned with the one who can send a CIA agent to rule my death a suicide with two shots in my head.
Politically to. I live in a US state. How are the Chinese going to use my transfem tiktoks against me. Are they going to sell me more estrogen? Hell yes if so lol.
Russia did little interference in the election. A study:
Trump also lost the popular vote anyway, it was the bullshit electoral system that allowed him to slither in. Although I’m not too surprised someone interfered with our elections, we do it to everyone else. Its common knowledge we interfered in the 1991 russian elections and directly manipulated and gave a fake result for their elections in 1993. We were able to directly change and influence their major political powers with their foreign interference, Russia has only managed to make bots annoying people on twitter.
and honestly why would china interfere in our elections, they can literally sit back and watch us fall apart. It is a pure fact that they are economically doing very well, and that we are in decline. Both our parties are anti-china, so who would they fudge in favor of? Stage a CPUSA coup?
Honestly I get how I might be coming off that way, but Im trying to be as neutral as possible. I have not said anything supporting russia or china in these posts, im just trying to introduce the point that the US social media spy apparatus is far more worrying than the Chinese one. I get it for like higher up people, but they have protections the common person does not. Monitoring us losers does nothing for them, just a lot of useless effort they don’t have to do. We are already buying everything from them, they don’t need to do anything for us to keep doing that.
I guess Im coming off as defending china, but I haven’t even done that in this post. I’ve just said they are far less influential than my own government. The US is still the global hegemon, they didn’t get there by being nice to people, they’re not staying there because they’re nice to people, and they will continue to stay there because they are willing to do whatever it takes to stay on top. The global hegemon, especially the USA’s, is far more directly powerful in my own life than the other guys ever will.
If you’re watching nothing but 15 second TikTok’s, your algorithm is saying you’re a fucking idiot. And I’d have to probably agree based off what you’re saying here.
So you literally have no idea what it is and what it’s about, but here you are running your little mouth. Weren’t you raised better than believing what you hear when you easily have the ability to see what it’s about yourself? You don’t sound too bright.
I know what TikTok is and what it is about. That’s why I choose not to use it. You are bright enough to realize that clips from TikTok are posted in other places on the web, right? I’ve never used crack cocaine either, but I know what it is and what it is about.
TikTok is literally designed to psychologically manipulate teenagers and you fell for it. You sound mad about it, too. Hope it doesn’t rot your brain too much before you figure it out, but that doesn’t sound likely from your replies.
This. I use tiktok more than I like, and it’s extremely easy to watch an hour or two. Thing is, when you get done, try to remember even like 3% of what you watched.
Reddit users often hate Reddit but feel stuck in it without alternatives that they can accept.
Twitter (it’s not X, fuck that silly aging “peaked in the XTREME 90s” divorce dad nonsense, I hope he cries more about it billionaire-tears ) has lost a lot of users and the ones that are left are devoted cultists that pay money for relevance symbols on their accounts. blue-checkfarquaad-point
TikTok has people that are hooked on the algorithm to the point that they may not bother even participating in any such survey because it isn’t on TikTok.
I mean, TikTok was already bad to begin with but what did they do to deserve a spot next to Twitter? Did I miss something? Surely they can’t do worse than trying to make their paid only, right?
Why do you think it’s more spyware than any other big tech mobile app or social media?
And based on my experience getting hooked so fast into while I didn’t want to touch it, it seems it has the best algorithm. I’m off it now, like all other social media expect for fediverse, but I can testify on this
My fyp is full of bipoc LGBTQ+ people? Twitter on the other hand tries to feed me right wing news sources and disinformation all the time. There’s a spectrum here and TikTok is far on the other side.
Also to be frank the algorithm is by far the best out of any company with a “for you” algorithm. It blows pretty much anything else out of the water entirely.
Go watch a few truck or bbq tik toks and watch it backslide. Anything that is vaguely a “manly hobby.” You’ll be surprised how quickly Ben Shapiro winds up in front of you.
I watch more tiktok than I’m proud of, and YouTube is actually way worse for this. Youtube I’ve actually started using some private browsing for things that I think might turn to Joe Rogan or whatever because on that platform you’re like 7 videos from “i’d like to check out some camping videos” to “here’s how to protect yourself from the woke mob in the apocalypse which will happen next Tuesday courtesy of Ben Shapiro.”
The thing that worries me about tiktok is they’re too good at this. It would honestly be extremely easy for them to tip the scales.
People rightfully call out TikTok as a spyware because of their ties with CCP, but how exactly are other social media giants and big tech any different as they too have ties with the CIA, FBI etc
Basically, most social media reads out everything that is openly accessible, like cookies, address books and contacts, etc.
TikTok goes deeper, it has been watched going into protected files, trying to break encryptions (sometimes being successful).
how is it speculative that big tech steals your data. Google, Amazon, microsoft, every single big internet conglomerate sell your data. Its a fact, and is widely reported.
Don’t we have a different tiktok than the Chinese one? There are specifically US folks in charge of the non China Tiktok. Wasn’t one of the security heads a former US state security agent?
follow someone long enough and eventually they complain that their videos are being taken down with zero reason, and being banned outright. an example is sanrioangel I think her name is, she’s had so many tiktok accounts banned for no reason other than being trans
Idk, I find it’s algorithm very easy to control compared to every other social media, its much easy to manipulate. My fyp is full of gay people so idk what you mean by the second statement.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many wish to devalue the companies at the same time. Let’s not forget about robinhood also. I can’t wait until reddit IPOs to short the shit out of it. You have to know their valuation is a farce and bullshit. The numbers are totally cooked there.
It’s basically a matter of a branded domain name and Mastodon will take over.
Governments and entities like the New York MTA are going to want something they control, rather than something that falls to the whims of some billionaire.
The tech for Mastodon is there. You just needs orgs that care less about reach and who trust people to come to them (like the New York MTA).
That’s assuming that his goal is to run a profitable social media company that people respect, enjoy, and that makes profit. However, he’s loaded af and can easily pay for the best consultants in the world. Considering that, I think it’s possible that he might be reaching his goals, they’re just not what we assume they are.
I’ve seen varying levels of this general idea that Musk somehow is still playing some 4d chess and the downfall of twitter is the plan, but it’s really not. Twitter was already a niche generally. I only know like 2 people IRL who were on twitter, compared to basically everyone on Facebook, for example, and you can check the stats, twitter commanded way more mindspace than it actually had.
And even if the master plan was to kill twitter - so what? This won’t stop anything. There is an argument to be made that all of the journalists and what not coalesced over there, but that’s just not going to stop happening. It’s like if someone wanted to kill instant messaging. “HA HA ICQ, this time I’ve got you!” Except, it’s not the platform that’s important, and it’s easily replaced.
Even if Elon’s plan is “let’s federate” it’s still an inane way to do it, but this seems like a more likely outcome.
Hanlon again for the win, simplest answer is he’s not nearly as smart as anyone pretends.
Yeah the thing that people are upset about reddit for with rate limited apps is something twitter did years ago. Then theres the everything else involved on twitter and its not even close.
Not really. They fucked up their business contracts/ reputations and there’s still a massive push to leave them in dust/ past. There’s no undoing how massively they fucked up.
In 2019 they also performed a retroactive terms of service change and after the backlash they changed their TOS to basically say “this can never ever happen again”
A few months before this recent dumbfuck decision, they actually went back and removed the part of their TOS and that they couldn’t make retroactive changes to the TOS and then hoped everyone forgot.
What they’ve done this time was a calculated business decision where they knew they’d piss people off and just expected most to suck it up and deal with it like they have every other time. They calculated very poorly here though as this was just the straw the fucked the camel raw and everyone is jumping ship. They have proven repeatedly they aren’t an engine development prioritized company anymore, they have proven repeatedly that have no issues lying to paying customers and doing shady backdoor shit.
What they did a few days ago was a “whoopsie we tried to fuck you again and it didnt work so we’llwalk it back for now” and for the second time have promised that this retroactive change can’t happen again. A second promise days after they broke that promise.
Unity is hors-concours, they’ve already won this race. None of these social networks have managed to fuck up so badly as to fully destroy their reputations like Unity did.
I don’t know. Twitter running rampant as a nazi platform and safe harbor under Elon’s tenure/stewardship has been something else. That platform was always a mess/ bad but not to the degree Elon has cranked it up to. It’s full blown mania/ hysteria on that platform.
Edit: I miss the days of Twitter when I could’ve used it as my own personal news ticker/ use it to follow sports and my favorite sports reporters. It’s shocking but there are actual uses and use cases for Twitter. It used to not be social media trash.
An I the only one who thinks this is exactly what he wanted? Hated seeing the western social media trying to block disinformation, so he buys it and let’s the right wing extremists have free rein
Chinese authority doesn’t like twitter. Tesla was incentivised by the Chinese gouvernement to come to china and grow the EV market there. Tesla had a lot of very nice and attractive loans and business opportunities. China alone is now 32% of sales for Tesla. Muskrat buying twitter and driving it to the ground serve the Chinese interest, and I would not be surprised to hear there was an agreement to something along the lines of “you buy this, you do shit with it, we close our eyes on our loans” from the Chinese.
For the nazis, it’s all about the Tesla factory in Texas. Texas is quite red, when COVID happened and California was closing down Tesla factory in Fremont, Shit-face was opening his new factory in Texas. Democrats were all in for the Covid measures. Going strong with anti-vaxxers and republicans gained him favors in Texas, to be able to use his slaves, sorry employees despite the pandemic.
Down the line, I think this psychopath is only doing what all billionaire does: using his money to make more, more, more, completely ignoring the consequences. The only thing that drives him is making more money. Not with Twitter, but with using twitter to get what he wants…
They tried to apply a per install fee and make it retroactive for all games using the Unity Runtime. Meaning games made with Unity even a few years ago who didn’t agree to this would be charged each time someone uninstalls and reinstalls the game.
This is the second time they have tried to make retroactive changes, by the way, and they even deleted the part of the TOS that prevented retroactive changes.
It’s really just one of many things they have done in the last few years
To list out a lot of the many things: They’ve done forced RTO which is pretty internally disliked, fired a ton of people lately, a bit ago the CEO publicly said anyone who doesn’t prioritize monetization are “the biggest fucking idiots”, they bought an ad company known for making malware, and they keep getting in bed with military contracts including Lockheed. Oh and they cancelled their example project game Gigaya which I’m still bitter over
Just a minor correction, they actually merged with Iron Source, they didn’t just buy them. That means there was a good bit of board carry over, which means Iron Source management is now making decisions at Unity.
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