JackbyDev,

vim

SamsonSeinfelder,

useradd - I just wanted to give a friend my notebook for a python lecture and thought I could just add him as a new user. Apparently not by default.

BCsven,

Seems like it would have to exist to create your initial login, unless you only had a root user

maxbossing,

You can just manually edit /etc/passwd

BCsven,

I haven’t used that since the 90s on HP Unix. Do you get to set default permissions for file creation there, and also add user groups?

x3i,

Ran into this some time ago and learned that there is a more rudimentary command adduser instead but it does not do things like home folder creation

9488fcea02a9,

Yeah, useradd should be the default over adduser

hottari,
  • Multimedia/ h264 codecs ??
  • KDE/GSconnect
  • Something like Arch’s downgrade package + an archive of package versions
  • Hardware video acceleration support is sorely lacking
  • Picture-in-picture in Gnome’s Wayland (bug that a gnome-shell extension fixes!)
user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh yeah! That downgrade option sounds cool. The only time I kinda regretted being on Manjaro. VirtualBox 7 still doesn’t have functional graphics. I tried downgrade, but that didn’t work. Maybe I should have tried deleting the VirtualBox config 🤔

QwertySpace,
@QwertySpace@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure why KDE/GSconnect would need to be preinstalled tbh. But I agree with the others

bjorney,

Multimedia codecs have a different license agreement than the OS so they aren’t bundled by default for a reason

hottari,

I don’t care about the licenses. If I click on my media and it refuses to play because some codec is omitted by default, am annoyed nonetheless.

hottari,

More annoyed when the distro doesn’t even bother to document how to properly install the “missing” codecs.

JackbyDev,

Don’t mistake this as condescension, but doesn’t VLC solve all of that?

hottari,

Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak.

JackbyDev,

I’ve heard it’s great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs?

hottari,

VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine.

bjorney,

Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It’s a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can’t do it for you.

You may not care, but the distro provider’s legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement

hottari,

The non-free components I’ve seen on installers are usually for Nvidia’s proprietary drivers. Not codecs.

Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There’s been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages.

westyvw,

MPEG LA is (now Via Licensing Alliance) has been active in collecting fees and defending patents. There is no reason to assume they won’t go after distros, particularly those who can pay given that they are willing to take on anyone else. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_LA

hottari,

They have never gone after said distros all those ^many^ ^many^ years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed?

westyvw,

Because those distros have (as we are talking about) distanced themselves from the patent encumbered codecs? When Google tried to get behind VP8, MPEG LA was right there to try and stop them by trying to get them into the pool. You would think google could have stood up to that…

Frederic,

openssh-server, how can you connect to your PC from elsewhere without sshd ?!?

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ml avatar

Debian, sudo, at least when ever I install it without a desktop.

edit: I’m dumb af, it tells you right in the installer, I just never read it

Eris,

I read that apparently if you don’t input a password for root that it apparently installs sudo. I might be wrong about this but could be worth a Google

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ml avatar

That kinda makes sense but I never would have found it on my own.

JohnBon,

Classic mistake :)

astroturds,

I’m always shocked that other distros haven’t made their own version of Yast from opensuse

Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

I think MX Linux has something similar

Ozzy,

I’ve tried yast and I’m still unsure what it was supposed to do. I just poked around, asked me if I know than I’m doing and then just left

astroturds,

It’s just a general system setup and config tool. I’m assuming that, like me, you already know how to do all that stuff without yast but it’s good for newbies and people that aren’t super nerds. With all of the anti terminal stuff I always read about on the internet you’d think at least ubuntu would have their own version of it or something similar.

“YaST is a SUSE Linux Enterprise Server tool that provides a graphical interface for all essential installation and system configuration tasks. Whether you need to update packages, configure a printer, modify firewall settings, set up an FTP server, or partition a hard disk—you can do it using YaST.”

But yeah, I actually hardly ever use it myself.

Ozzy,

Ohhhhhhh, that makes sense, thanks for explaining!

Turtle,

The first couple commands I run after install:


<span style="color:#323232;">$ sudo apt install vim
</span><span style="color:#323232;">$ sudo apt autopurge libreoffice*
</span>
cows_are_underrated,
@cows_are_underrated@feddit.de avatar

I actually like Libre office very much, since it’s a good open source office software.

Turtle,

I’m not suggesting it’s bad, I just don’t use it much and it’s always preinstalled.

stepanzak,

Which office suite do you use?

schnurrito,

Some people don’t need an office suite at all.

Turtle,

When I need an office suite, Libreoffice is the one I use, but it’s so infrequent that I reinstall writer or whatever part I need at the time and then uninstall again.

The main reason it bothers me is I will see it being updated frequently (and they’re not small updates) - and I’ve probably never ran the thing since the last OS install most of the time.

spez,

Mission Center, it finally brings a task manager like UI on Linux. Alternative for people not wanting to use a TUI like htop.

ClemaX,

ncdu for analyzing disk space usage in TUI.

UntouchedWagons,
@UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca avatar

nslookup quite a few times I’d try and resolve a domain name only to find out the command isn’t available and I’d need to google what package adds it.

SpaceCadet,

I thought it was deprecated in favor of the host and dig commands.

demonsword,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

no nslookup, go with dig

qyron,

Let’s try the other way around: what default apps are pre installed that really don’t need or should not be?

I get that most distros try to give a good out of the box desktop for the average user, while also saving time for who is (trying to) providing services or building machines to sell but it can get annoying booting into a fresh install, take a look at the defaults and go “nah, that’s going away, and that, that and the other”.

I’m not advocating for LFS but sometimes I wish we could get an option to install just what is necessary to make the hardware run and a chosen desktop or window manager and from there install whatever we may need.

OldPain,

Sounds like Arch.

vrighter,

seconded. That is exactly how I built my system, starting from a minimal install

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

coreutils.

rattking,
@rattking@lemmy.ml avatar

Not a specific distro per se but I’m shocked by how many minified docker images do not include which I’ve wasted so much time trying to figure out why a build failed with some tool missing after I explicitly installed that tool only to find deep down in a script somewhere a tool=$(which tool) >/dev/null in there failing and eating the error message! Remember folks always which which first to avoid such issues ;)

gamma,
@gamma@programming.dev avatar

type -p is a shell builtin though, and one character shorter :)

Although you may prefer tool=$(command -v tool)

learnbyexample,
@learnbyexample@programming.dev avatar

EPUB reader

lloram239,

Biggest surprise here is that browsers still have no EPUB support build in. It’s such a mind boggling oversight. They even got PDF support, but long form xHTML content is somehow still a big no.

Only Edge had EPUB for a little while, but even that got lost when they switched to Chromium.

the_lone_wolf,
@the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml avatar

Ya, epub is just html + zip

rbos,
@rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

mosh, tmux, htop, vim

5714,

dhcpcd (Arch)

caseyweederman,

Well really

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