This genius and his two sock puppets are really crushing the comment section. You always have to insert a lol in order to convey the levity of your position when shitting on the plebs from a great height.
Margot robbie is that woman from stranger things right? I’m lost on the reference here though, is she super sexist against other women or something? I only really know her from that show 🤔
May I see a video, of you holding up today’s newspaper, with the date visibly showing, with a shoe on your head? Then I will know you are real. Can’t trust pictures these days.
4chan isn’t really that bad honestly. It’s just the epitome of “FrEe SpEeCh”, and as a consequence it attracts a crapton of social outcasts who finally have a place to vent their horrible opinions.
The 10% of the site that isn’t talking about women or politics is actually pretty nice.
Hours after the Charlottesville car attack that killed Heather Heyer I went to /b/ to see if anyone wanted to virtually protest the alt-right white supremacist websites, and it was filled with post after post urging people to kill more protestors with their cars.
Because that’s virtually the only place where you can do that and not get banned. So obviously all the nutjobs flocked there to do it.
Doesn’t change that there’s still fun discussion sometimes on the site, although it’s hardly worth it when it’s so full of misogyny and alt-right propaganda. I admire the people that manage to stay sane in there.
Most people think it’s just kind of a free speech hellhole, but it’s not, that’s just the coat of paint the site took on/has always slightly had. Remnants of an idealized 1990’s internet space where people thought everything would be free to use and free to access, and the storage would be infinite, ironically concocted by out-of-touch yuppies who didn’t work on the pipes. In reality, free speech bullshit is always just a cover for admins to be able to enforce whatever totally inconsistent rules that they want without any form of repercussion, because obviously there are limits, even just legally, in terms of keeping the site up, and keeping it free from commercial spam, and having advertisers stay on. Most rules you can concoct have some sort of exception, or lack of clarity, or are too restrictive, so it really just falls down to some arbitrary decision as to what stays around and what doesn’t.
With sites like 4chan, it isn’t so much that “free speech” just inevitably leads to this tragedy of the commons where everyone becomes or is taken over by racists and incels, it’s more that active decisions are made to turn these sites into shitholes by malignant actors, because sites like 4chan are the easiest targets, and have a kind of natural selection bias towards the type of people they want to recruit. They take advantage of this fact that “free speech” is obfuscating the actual moderation and enforcement of the site, and then use it to promote whatever ideologies they want, like a little internet meme terrarium, or maybe more of a virus cell culture. Then, this attracts other malignant actors, some of whom are even funded by different states, who work within the bounds of the site to advance it one step further, until you have a kind of horrible coalition of different ideas all stewing together.
Which is all kind of tragic, because, like that one guy said, it’s responsible for a novel mathematical proof, the revival of a british indie rock band, the beginnings of anonymous, probably some other cool stuff I can’t remember. Lots of early classic internet memes, of course. It’s not all bad, really, it’s just the lowest hanging fruit of web forum. Sometimes that’s shitty, but then sometimes you get draw*** threads, where artists will go in and take low-pressure requests or concoct some sort of forum-game. Idealized, it’s sort of like pub bathroom graffiti, or something. Which isn’t really nefarious, is never serious, is sometimes charming, and very very occasionally is beautiful, useful, or novel.
I think he heard some philosophy stuff out of context or over simplified, and was knee deep in inferences when he tweeted that. Something like:
The only thing we know with certainty that we exist.
So we don’t know if anything, including what we perceive, is real.
If our perception could be fake, we can’t even know that our sensory organs, like eyes, are real.
However, in my perceived life, I can look at myself in a mirror, and see my own body and my own eyes.
If my perception isn’t real, and my eyes aren’t real, how can I see them in that mirror?
If our eyes aren’t real, we wouldn’t be able to see them in a mirror for… some reason.
But my name is Jaden Smith, and I can’t understand that a fake reality could trick me into thinking I see my own eyes, so I think being able to see my eyes in a mirror means my eyes must be real, the mirror must be real, and the physical world exists with certainty. I disproved solipsism guys!
In all seriousness, I don’t think he believed his eyes weren’t real, he was asking a rhetorical question that he thought proved something deep. However, because he was a dumb teenager, he thought he could figure out something no one in history ever considered, and was thus making some grand contribution to society.
That’s implying trans women are less stable and easier to hurt because they are trans. That’s transphobic. Assuming cis women don’t get hurt by misgendering is sexist at best.
Homie I work in mental health and recognizing a trigger is not a force of systemic oppression, it’s a courtesy. Pretending everything is hunky dory and no one has differing needs or experiences is the “i dont see color” equivalent of gender. why would cis women even have that trigger??
I’m not saying it doesnt, even in my original post I said they aren’t “AS” hurt. Why not try giving a “sir” to 100 trans women and 100 cis women and see how the reactions differ? The way I understand it, you’re saying there wont be any difference in reaction. That’s naive. It’s a trigger! Just like how I can get uncomfortable when someone talks about s.assault but it isn’t a trigger for me. If I’m in a group session with people recovering from trauma, I’m going to be very careful talking about SA but if I’m with colleagues I might speak more directly.
You think you’re so damn clever for appropriating the inclusive folks’ argument and trying to throw it back at them, but you really aren’t. We can all see you for the dishonest concern troll that you are.
I just find it unsettling that those comments only seems to care about the trans. And also I don’t find it helpful to recite again and again “you’re unstable and easy to hurt” to someone. I think they want to be treated normally.
I’m not endorsing what PsychedSy is saying (esp in the replies), but I am calling you out for saying that being aware of differing needs of trans people is transphobic.
That’s fair. There is something uncomfortable about saying that trans women are on average more unstable. But I think that’s more about the word choice “unstable” where I would frame it more neutrally like “different needs”. I guess “unstable” sounds like it’s their fault/failing.
Not sure if this is Nothing Ever Happens (because for some reason that conversation couldn’t happen naturally) or That Happened (someone made 2 accounts for such a nothing conversation)…
You mean women are people who knows how to navigate to a website, sign up for accounts, and express our own points of view on different topics? How could this be possible?
It’s not that people don’t think women have the capability. There is just a general assumption that they’re smart enough not to waste their time with it and they have better things to do, like actual hobbies and friends/family to see.
When I have time to kill I dick around online and usually ignore anything else I could do. Every woman I know is making scrapbooks, knitting her own hats and some more for others, taking care of some kids, building and maintaining relationships with people in the real world, cooking amazing food just because they want it, getting involved in the community, working some extra side jobs, and generally doing stuff to make their world and the world around them better.
Why do you assume the assumption that everyone is a guy online is somehow the result of a negative view on women?
There is just a general assumption that they’re smart enough not to waste their time with it and they have better things to do, like actual hobbies and friends/family to see.
Did you actually ask other people what they think, or are you projecting? Because this doesn’t represent me at all
I’m projecting, but also, I said it was an assumption that’s generally held, not a hard fact that everyone does or should believe. We all know different people and that will color or views.
My wife and I are waiting until marriage until we have some free time this holiday to play it co-op. We’ve had similar problems in the past with games like Warcraft 3, but the amazing coop system in the Borderlands franchise has allowed us to log hundreds (if not thousands) of hours playing together - hoping that BG3 works similarly well enough.
The co-op is pretty good, though there are a few tiny frustrations - I can’t automatically use an npc party member’s skills in conversations (like guidance or bardic inspiration) if they’re under my husband’s control instead of mine, for instance. Our problem is that we both want to finish the storyline for ourselves before making storyline decisions in our co-op campaign and I have an entire day off that he doesn’t thanks to working 4 10s instead of 5 8s. So I have to wait for him to push ahead in his campaign before we can play ours, but I can just play mine at my leisure, lol.
The fact you think motivation, caring for you family, and having social media are mutually exclusive says a lot about you. If you think women on Reddit, lemmy, whatever social media are unmotivated because they don’t knit hats and care for children or whatever you define as womanhood you might need to reflect on what you think womanhood is outside of your personal experiences with the women in your social bubble.
Women might use Reddit or lemmy or a number of social media sites to find a social group to connect with that they don’t have in their immediate area, just like men do. They are normal people who don’t have to adhere to whatever gender ideologies society wants to ascribe to them. Also spending time on sites like this can just be an hour in the morning or evening not an entire life so you might never see them do it.
I have. The most recent woman I saw was my sister, who does literally all the things I mentioned, and has probably never been on reddit. She might not even know what it is.
Oh cool she definitely represents the entire female population of the world. Maybe you should go try and meet a second or even third woman (not including your mother), it might give you a broader perspective.
I wasn’t aware you wanted a list of everyone woman I’ve ever met. I’m not going to provide that, as it’s insane. That’s why I simply mentioned just the most recent. I also didn’t say anything about the entire female population in the world, that’s a bunch of spin you made up in your head. Stop being so sensitive and trying to make things out to be worse than they are. I don’t know you, nor was I thinking about you when I made the post; you don’t need to take it personally.
This comment is so sad lmao. Let me introduce you to this awesome idea, and I ask that you please read it in the SpongeBob voice for “imagination”: anecdotes aren’t evidence
I did not meet women in person, but I heard lots of them just hang out on instagram, posting their best moments online. Ofc similar for some good-looking men as well. That’s why I assume most people here are either men or lgbtq+.
I’m almost guaranteeing that the person you are replying to is making a joke, because of how ludicrous it sounds. “I did not meet women in person, but I heard lots of them just hang out on instagram” implies that the commenter has literally never met a woman in their entire life and only knows about them via a website that they’ve never even been to themselves, as the information about them being on instagram is itself second hand. Like, it literally makes women sound like cryptids.
I’m a woman. My most frequently practiced hobbies are watching my fiancé cook, playing with my cat, dicking around on the internet, and playing word games. Because hobbies are to relax and I’m working and getting a Masters. When I had more time, I also danced a bunch and played Pokémon go.
The things the women in your life are doing, are providing services for the people around them, through food, knitted goods, and photo albums. Women also want a break, but we don’t get one if no one in our lives gives us one.
Six years ago, my terrible ex would have said that I loved reading organizational blogs and baking, but that’s because he was a slob whose family had weekly parties that I was expected to bake for. Maybe all the women in your life are stepford bots, but maybe you should try learning to knit or cook with some of them, and see if they branch out or just need some help.
“The things the women in your life are doing, is providing service for the people around them….”
“Women also want a break, but we don’t get one if no one in our lives gives us one. [note: or if we take it, with all the risks that may or may not entail.]
No, it’s not just women; yes, it often is women due to social factors.
When I have time to kill I dick around online and usually ignore anything else I could do. Every woman I know is making scrapbooks, knitting her own hats and some more for others, taking care of some kids, building and maintaining relationships with people in the real world, cooking amazing food just because they want it, getting involved in the community, working some extra side jobs, and generally doing stuff to make their world and the world around them better.
Are there any women you know who aren’t housewives?
I don’t understand why men are even on here. Every man I know is so busy chopping down trees, wrestling bears and building log cabins. How does anyone on here even find the time!?
I’m a woman and I do knit and bake as a hobby, I also 3d print and design, do some robotics and I’m a cybersecurity professional. I have joined and participate in online communities for all of those TBF the crochet community in Reddit is one of the most awesome and welcoming i have ever seen.
“straight women are gay because they have boyfriends” is an interesting thought experiment at the very least, if you don’t put too much thought into that “experiment”
Your experiment seems about the equivalent to a teenage boy calling himself a lesbian because they like chick’s, it’s just immature humor but I doubt that was the intent of the comment, sounds more like they were just an incel.
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