conditional_soup,

Tbh, the worst part is when you pay for it and still get ads anyway. Feels like double dipping, but it’s obviously going to happen because wall street doesn’t like when line only goes up a little.

Bonehead,

Welcome to cable TV in the late 80s...

dan,

Yeah that’s totally galling. Shrinkflationfor online services.

You know some shiny-suited corporate asshole got a huge bonus for coming up with that though.

Fried_out_Kombi,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

Enshrinklification of the internet

HerbalGamer,

Rolls off the tongue

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

En-shrink-if-ication

HerbalGamer,

missed an L

Adori,
@Adori@lemmy.world avatar

Man’s only gets Ws

affiliate,

the problem is that making the line go up even a little gets exponentially harder with time. because the graph not going up at any given point in time is so unimaginably horrible to them, they keep having to think of new insidious ways of satisfying it

spankinspinach,

I actually find myself wondering lately “what’s so bad about stable (+/- 5%/annum) profits for some stretches of time.” Sure you’re not eating up market share, but a couple million in the pocket every year really isn’t that bad…

I… May not be cut out for capitalism…

FlexibleToast,

Only private companies can get away with thinking like that. Companies that can put the stakeholder’s interest ahead of the shareholder.

Wolf_359,

Companies who stay private can do this. It’s when you have investors that you’re fucked and the ponzi scheme starts.

The idea, in its purest form, is that companies will innovate to keep investors happy. They will keep expanding and making wonderful new products. As an example, a printer company will start making phones, then laptops, then maybe expand into chemicals or farm equipment, making bold innovations at every step.

Companies who can’t innovate do this shit (inflate prices until they suck) and then they die because they’re no longer competitive.

…in theory.

hemko,

Yeah it’s crazy. We have TV plan with some 100 channels bundled up with internet, and sometimes rarely when I watch TV I’m just baffled by the fact a paid service still is full of ads

Touching_Grass,

We let it happen. You either put your foot down at the first instance of this thing or you lose any ability to do it because it eventually gets so big you can’t stop it without some whole new technology. But there’s always going to be people who say “how else are people going to pay for websites if not advertising” I say not my fucking problem. Just like robbing my free time with bullshit ads wasn’t their problem.

clonedhuman,
@clonedhuman@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve become a strong proponent of the joys of piracy.

billy_bollocks,

This. I’m building a media server as we speak. Fuck these assholes

railsdev,

I really which torrents would move to i2p. There’s just not enough available there to make it feasible for direct streaming.

IHaveTwoCows,

I am a strong proponent of finding other hobbies, but I have never been a fan of tv in general

billy_bollocks,

This is really the best option. Plus media server

jmankman,

The creator of the radio and even the US government were wary of the idea of introducing ads into American living rooms, but look at us now.

steelrat, (edited )
@steelrat@lemmy.world avatar

Given my entertainment options, I found a small developer that sells an app for a couple bucks that allows me to pull streams through my phone and transcode it and chromecast it to my projector. Juijitsu Kaisen never looked so good.

SnipingNinja,

Which app?

steelrat, (edited )
@steelrat@lemmy.world avatar

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.instant…

I guess I should mention they also defang, adblock, and can fake useragents if they attempt to block based on usermask/profiling. See why I wanted to pay this cat?

iforgotmyinstance,

I don’t have Peacock but I’m hanging out at my parents house and apparently when you pay for Peacock you have to watch ads at the beginning and end of shows PLUS every time you pause.

Every single time they paused it transitioned to an ad. What psychopaths run NBC?

cryptosporidium140,

Comcast actually

Krauerking,

So truly terrifying psychopath if looking at their cancellation process is any indication

FaeDrifter,

Comcast voted the most hated company in 2017 Comcast?

weariedfae,

Kabletown

clonedhuman,
@clonedhuman@lemmy.world avatar

Pirate everything. Pirate streams, torrents, whatever.

Pirate. Everything.

*unless it’s an independent artist of some sort. then, just buy some merch from them or something.

Krauerking,

I’m gonna go pay for that silly looking onyx the fortuitous film just so he gets my money for doing something different and helping other people make a dollar

nizvicious,

Hells yeah. Really excited to buy his film on bluray and something else because shipping will be a bitch but still excited for his film.

ToxicWaste,

While listening to Spotify using a custom APK, which enables premium features: I support this message!

name_NULL111653,

As do I (while also listening to a modded Spotify apk).

FatTony,

In fact you should even pirate piracy. Next time steal someone else’s torrent and seed that instead!

Note: Yes, I do realise ;)

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, Spotify? Don’t you mean “a pile of garbage”?

I have to be honest, I hate this thing even with the paid plan. Everything sounds so compressed.

winter,

blame the loudness wars, not the streaming service. they don’t alter audio files, the only exception being loudness normalisation between songs.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

It’s either that or my opinion is the least valid out of them all.

the_seven_sins,
@the_seven_sins@feddit.de avatar

It’s not that I don’t want to pay for the service, it’s just that I hate the automatic recurring withdrawals, even if I can cancel monthly.

I would probably use more subscriptions if I could just pay like three month of access in advance - basically like these gift cards work.

learningduck,

Aren’t most of these services offering 6-12 months plans that are cheaper on average?

camr_on,
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

Not all of them. Spotify doesn’t, they know that people will just pay monthly, they don’t have any reason to offer a discount

CrowAirbrush,

It’s not that i don’t want to pay, it’s just that their “service” isn’t serving me and thus not worth the money.

Give me my cd’s back lol. Let me own what i purchase.

DJDarren,

I use an iPod that I’ve modded 128gb into. It’s great. All the convenience of my own high quality music library, without having hundreds of CDs around.

CrowAirbrush,

My phone is 512gb and i use about 80 myself, largest part is porn(yeah i’m aware, it’s bad…very bad,i need some time).

I’ve decided to start pirating again as my device has plenty of space to keep my music.

The biggest thing is getting all lf the music, so nowadays i’ll just play what i have and sometimes go: “oh damn i forgot about billie eilish” for example and make a mental note until the next time i’m at my computer with some time to spare.

Slowly but steadily decreasing my porn stock and replacing it with music i would’ve bought as cd’s.

DJDarren,

As long as the porn is legal and consensual, then knock yourself out.

CrowAirbrush,

Nah, it needs to be brought down a couple notches.

It’s bad.

The porn is legal, just so we’re clear on that lol.

patachu,

Everyone is saying Piracy but I say Public LIbraries, which often have CDs/DVDs/BDs/games now (depending on your locale). They’re taxpayer funded, so you might as well get your money’s worth, and they keep track of how often stuff gets borrowed which determines future financial support.

(And if you are tech-savvy enough to be on Lemmy, you probably know how to make a … permanent copy … for yourself to keep)

redcalcium,

Libraries are great. Just think about it, if libraries as a concept hasn’t already exist, there is absolutely zero chance it will be invented in our time due to our overly restricting copyright law.

Heidur,

And also due to a rightward shift in the Overton window. A place where people just get to borrow books for free? That’s socialism. And it will completely kill the entire books industry

Restaldt,

By god what will they burn then?

Miqo,

Nikes and Bud Light.

CosmoNova,

Which is exactly why big corporations are lobbying hard to get public library stripped of funds by any means necessary. I mean you can even 3D print spare parts in many libraries for free by now! The super rich cannot have that.

Polar,

Or save the time and gas money and download it.

I mean shit, I don’t even have a DVD burner in any of my computers. Haven’t for a decade and a half. You expect me to grab my external drive to burn a copy? I can download anything on my gigabit connection in 5 minutes.

Katzelle3,

Why would you need gas money to go to a library?

Polar,

To drive there? How would you expect I get to my library 35km away?

Katzelle3,

You live in the Sahara or something?

Polar,

No, I live in the second biggest country in the world.

RoseRose56,
@RoseRose56@lemmy.world avatar

People like us just don’t see it, they are want us on subscription plans for every service that exists. Starting from movies and series, which you don’t own anything, and once you signup you agreed with their terms, they do what ever they want, to phone where your storage space will max out, and you have to pay monthly, to upload all your videos and photos in the cloud/server. They want us to keep paying for even basic things, because why should be free right?

Oneobi,

Greed. The ultimate human trait.

glockenspiel,

Greed isn’t the ultimate human trait. Cooperation and curiosity are. We never would have built societies without either. We never would have advanced to the point we have without both. Everyone has greed in them, just like everyone has the opportunity to be angry or sad. But the notion that it is the ultimate human trait or somehow stronger than other characteristics is truly capitalist propaganda meant to justify their immoral hoarding of our wealth.

After all, if greed is the most natural and strongest human attribute… well, the do-nothing takers at the tippy top of the food chain can just continue to suck our blood and deprive us of our agency since it is natural.

There is a reason we don’t live in libertarian hellscapes. It is because greed is not the ultimate human trait.

Oneobi,

Are you saying society now is not based on greed?

IHaveTwoCows,

Ya know, you could just buy a portable drive and put all your media on that.

RoseRose56,
@RoseRose56@lemmy.world avatar

I know, but tell that to the all the companies with their pop ups. I have 0 subs btw. But my point is not everyone knows how to deal with stuff.

IHaveTwoCows,

I meant transferring straight from your phone files to a thumb drive or other portable drive

learningduck,

I don’t get the Dropbox one here. Are you expecting 1TB cloud storage for free?

But yeah, if really want those then pCloud offers a 2 TB life time plan.

Flambo, (edited )

Are you expecting 1TB cloud storage for free?

Your point stands, but let me point out that when gmail started their “9GB free” thing way back when, that was an unfathomable amount of storage for some of us. And gmail’s not the only service that’s offered huge amounts of free storage over the years. So yeah, I think it’s probable that a bunch of us have been primed to expect free storage.

edit: Also given how cheap cloud storage is from ie MS Azure

Depending on storage type you pay $10-$18/mo once you’re using a full TB. If you use less, you pay proportionally less. Dropbox’s 2TB for $10 is a comparatively better deal if you use it all, but if you use 1TB or less it’s not. Which, now that I’m looking at it, probably means their business model is counting on a lot of underutilized storage caps from their subscribers.

nadram,
@nadram@lemmy.world avatar

Nay i demand a decent minimum amount of free online storage. These jackasses have taken away SD cards from mobile for a reason. They overcharge a memory upgrade on laptops tablets and mobile phones on purpose. They choke companies into ditching local servers and moving to the cloud. Why? sUBsCriPtIOn BaSEd CLoud stORAgE. Shove it Microsoft Google and Amazon.

dustyData,

The gym approach to software subscription, have you pay for shit you, preferably, will never use.

learningduck,

Good point on the underutilized storage. It would be very good to have a pay per use kind of thing.

Crass_Spektakel,
@Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

You know, what you can not find on EBay you can find on PBay. Or whatever warez site you prefer.

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

Mandatory “don’t use piratebay” comment

AllHailTheSheep,

I haven’t been into the pirating scene for a few years, last time I was active pirate bay was the best. why not use it anymore?

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Polar,

    Sure. If you want to torrent from a website that the US government uses as a honeypot.

    Or you can join 2023 and use a proper website. Also ditch that Malware called uTorrent and use qBittorrent.

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Polar,

    Again, imagine using a known bad website when better alternatives exist.

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Polar,

    Canada doesn’t care about torrenting.

    Again, using a known bad site is ignorance. Enjoy your torrents riddled with rootkits and miners.

    nudnyekscentryk,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    “The Pirate Bay / TPB - Site is no longer moderated, so its very risky for software and games” source

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    techspot.com/…/99242-pirate-bay-restores-new-user…

    Spud17, moderator of ThePirateBay says you’re wrong.

    Crass_Spektakel,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    I say the time of Torents is OVER. Today Streaming-Warez-Sites are the Kick.

    Nitrate55,
    @Nitrate55@lemmy.ml avatar

    I wouldn’t use a pirate streaming site over torrenting even if I was getting paid to do so lol the releases generally have terrible bitrates and low picture quality, likely because they’re the smallest files the site uploaders could find. They’re convenient if you can’t afford a VPN and don’t care about file quality when it comes to movies and shows, but I prefer being able to select a high quality file with good encoding, quality compression (265, AV1), and known high quality uploaders, like UTR and QxR. That’s only possible through torrenting the file or getting it through Usenet.

    Crass_Spektakel,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    Nope

    Those Times where Warez-Streaming-Sites had low quality are long gone. While 4k=3840 releases are rare, we have mostly 1920 nowadays with some 1280 in-between, often Bluray- or Streaming-Rips without re-encoding, at least if the source was H264/H265. Older MPEG2/4 though is still often recoded. You can easily re-encode an old MPEG2-Bluray from 20Gig to H265 4Gig without visibly loss. With more modern Codecs the Data is usually “re-containered” which means the Content itself isn’t changed, only the Encryption and Container are changed.

    Overall Streamingz-Sites are pretty good nowadays, Amazon and Netflix take up to one minute to switch to high Bitrate quality for me. With Warez-Sites you have to wait 3-5 seconds but then it immediately starts at Max Quality and NEVER at lower quality. And their Search actually works great and is well organized and everything reacts so much faster because they reduce the eye candy. They also often have bookmarks - which don’t work as good as commercial providers but good enough.

    I can only have access to Amazon, Netflix, Joyn and Public Television Media Centres so for other providers your mileage may vary.

    Nitrate55,
    @Nitrate55@lemmy.ml avatar

    Meh. I still prefer Stremio and my custom configured Jackett setup for searching for torrents. Just has more features and more control. I’ve never encountered a pirate streaming site with even half the features Stremio has. I will grant you that anime streaming sites have gotten a lot better over the years, but I still don’t trust general pirate streaming sites. It’s great to hear they got better though. Easier acess to media is always a good thing.

    Crass_Spektakel,
    @Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

    Torrents of all kinds can be easily tracked and its users be sued because they do not only consume but also distribute.

    One-Click-Hosters and Streamingz-Sites on the other side are hard to track and their users don’t distribute.

    At least by German Law it is mostly “we only care about distribution, not consumption”. The later has an estimated damage of $1 per case, that is not even petty crime. Distribution on the other hand often is handled at $1000/case… I think there was not a single case of a Streamingz-User being prosecuted but already millions of Torrent-Users.

    Nitrate55, (edited )
    @Nitrate55@lemmy.ml avatar

    Well this is a non-issue if you live in a country that doesn’t prosecute piracy or if you’re willing to pay for a VPN. I’ve been torrenting for years, and the last time I was caught was before I started using a VPN. I haven’t had a single issue since I started using one. Like I said though, pirate streaming sites work as a great solution for people who might not be able to afford to pay for a VPN or just don’t want the added expense.

    AustralianSimon,
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    Usenet > *

    elscallr,
    @elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty much everything on there is monitored by the rights holders and anything that’s not is loaded with malware. L337 or torrent leech is what you want these days, for the mainstream stuff. TL requires invites but they’re easy enough to get and it’s got pretty much all the mainstream TV, movies, and software. If you want more niche stuff you’d want to look around a bit more, though.

    brockpriv,

    What’s wrong with pirate bay? I’ve been using it for years with no problems

    FordBeeblebrox,

    Larger % of DMCA tracked stuff than other sites. Set your VPN to a Caribbean country and yo ho ho no worries matey

    rambling_lunatic,

    I guess I win. I already am in the Caribbean. Call me Captain Jack Sparrow I guess.

    FordBeeblebrox,

    You’re the worst lunatic I’ve ever heard of

    rambling_lunatic,

    Well, you have heard of me.

    And now so have the DMCA goons. Blimey.

    FordBeeblebrox,

    What are they gonna do, send a British Navy ship with a letter of marque? Yo ho ho matey

    rambling_lunatic,

    Indeed. Latinos and Eastern Europeans have a predilection towards disliking intellectual property laws. And I happen to be an Eastern European living in Latin America.

    nudnyekscentryk,
    @nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

    “The Pirate Bay / TPB - Site is no longer moderated, so its very risky for software and games” source

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    TPB is still moderated. They just had news this year about reopening registrations.

    Astronautical,

    Well, Pirate Bay is essentially the defacto website someone thinks of when they hear “This person pirates content.” Because of this, game devs, Hollywood execs, etc end up putting out detectable torrents/illegitimate files onto this most popular pirating source.

    UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN,

    I mean even archive dotorg has pirate material on it…

    Polar,

    I don’t hate subscription based services if they’re priced fairly and make sense.

    Paying monthly for a service that then starts giving you less, adds more premium plans, introduces ads, etc. is garbage.

    Paying for a game, then having to pay a monthly fee to play (WoW, for example), is garbage.

    Paying for software, but then having to pay monthly to use the software, is garbage.

    Paying for software, but then having to pay monthly to be allowed to contact support (Blue Iris), is garbage.

    But paying for things like Spotify, where you get access to pretty much all songs as they release, have no limit on how much you listen to, and it has a fair student pricing or family pricing, that’s fine. Way better than paying per song.

    I mean shit, if I paid for every song I have in my library on Spotify, I’d owe $1430. My Spotify is $17 per month, spit between 4 people, so I pay $4.25. I can either pay for every song in my library and not add any more, or pay for Spotify for 28 years and continue growing my library…

    leviathan3k,

    Honestly, this.

    The economics of the world are such that people need to be paid for the content they produce. Having a direct relationship between me as the consumer and them as the producer is the way we don’t get shit like all of the ad-based spyware that surrounds shit like Facebook. It won’t completely prevent it, but it gives a good business plan for it not to happen.

    I’d vastly prefer something that didn’t require some megacorp as evil as Amazon. But… this could actually make as much sense as is possible with our current economic system.

    cactus, (edited )

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    Aurix,

    WoW and other MMOs are not just games with slapped on subscription costs. It is a very specific subtype of games which have much higher maintenance cost than an arena shooter. There is a reason these games get shutdown when certain financial thresholds get passed beyond let’s do something more profitable.

    dangblingus,

    Nah, fuck subscriptions. If I can’t buy it once and own it, then it’s a scam on consumers. Change my view.

    Polar,

    I did. Look at my Spotify example. It’s literally more expensive to own the songs than to pay for Spotify.

    Unless you only want like 30 songs.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    But the minute you dont subscribe, you have nothing and are out all that money

    Polar,

    Still cheaper, though.

    I’d rather have access to pretty much every song on demand for $4 per month and not own it, than pay per song.

    I pay $4.25 per month for Spotify. That’s $51 per year. I have access to pretty much every song, or I could buy 39 songs to own instead.

    I save more than 39 songs per month. Financially it makes no sense to buy them. Especially if you consider I get bored of some songs, and never listen to them again.

    ShadowCatEXE,
    @ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world avatar

    The way I look at it, is I don’t pay to listen to the music, I pay for the convenience.

    Most music I listen to is on YouTube, where if I wanted to, I could just download it and “own” the song for free. However, in the interest of saving time, letting Spotify create playlists based on what I listen to, I just pay a monthly fee. Not to mention that I can share my playlists on multiple devices, whereas if I download music, I can’t.

    I also have a family plan with all spots filled up, so that’s 6 people listening to all their music for $20/mo CAD. Far superior to buying an album or individual songs.

    Zhao,

    Spotify is the only subscription I still pay for. That’s it. Everything else is whack

    MrMobius,

    Fuck you Spotify! I download my mp3 just like cool kids did 20 years ago, and it suits me just fine!

    I_Love_Muslims,

    If it’s free, you’re the product

    butter,

    Unless you pirate.

    Or buy it in a one time payment.

    In fact, you’re pretty much the product in every one of these examples, even if you pay

    wer2,

    But also when you pay, you can still be a product.

    hoi_polloi,

    We used to pay a one time fee for software and we paid for big updates. I miss those days

    hahattpro,

    If it is subscription, then wen you lost your stream of income, you lost everything.

    That including your house, if you live in subcription house.

    scorpiosrevenge,

    Isnt that called rent

    MrPoopbutt,

    Mortgage too

    Bison1911,

    And property tax.

    geophysicist,

    Mortgage you prepay a lifetime subscription though, much better /s

    candle_lighter,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Learn to torrent and throw Plex or Jellyfin onto your computer then you have your own Spotify and Netflix

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    Plex doesn’t offer everything Spotify can though.

    candle_lighter,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Use the Plexamp app

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    I know Plex can stream music but it does not have a ability of discovery like Spotify has. Not even YouTube comes close.

    For those who set music trends, spotify is a must.

    candle_lighter,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not sure if you mean finding more music or having people find music you create. If you intend for people to find your music you created on a private self hosted platform you obviously need to look elsewhere but if you want to find new music to listen to there are still options.

    You can connect Tidal to your Plex and listen to any music on Tidal on Plex and get discovery/recommendations. You can also connect Plex to Last.fm and get recommendations that way. If you want to manually discover music you can use a site that does that like everynoise.com

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    I’ve used tidal and last.fm in the past. Both have very poor capabilities when giving recommendations.

    I will check out every noise.

    owatnext, (edited )
    @owatnext@lemmy.world avatar

    Lmao literally the only “subscription” I have is my phone bill, which I pay yearly. Also maybe you’d consider my insurance a subscription? Sounds very dystopian.

    Edit: is rent a subscription? Regularly refilled prescriptions? Where is the line? I have fallen into a quandry.

    maniclucky,

    Do you pay on a recurring cycle? Can you function in society without it? If yes to both: subscription.

    You need a phone, utilities, rent/mortgage, insurance (if we’re being realistic) so I wouldn’t call them subscriptions.

    m3t00,
    @m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

    moved my house phone to a Gvoice account. gets mostly spam anyway. voicemails transcribe to email. bye att

    Bison1911,

    Everything is a subscription. It’s the dystopia we have created.

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