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Darkard, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

When someone says “woke” I immediately assume that they have an opinion of the thing in question that they know will be seen as sexist, racist or -phobic in some way that if they said directly would get them called out on.

It’s just another cowards way of saying “I’m not racist but…”

ultrasquid,
@ultrasquid@kbin.social avatar

Platforms should start considering "woke" a slur, cause that's pretty much how it's used.

Garzak,

« Sorry for arriving just now guys, I **** up late. »

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

“I fuck up late”?

JJROKCZ,

He’s saying if some is considered a slur, then it will be censored, if it’s censored then you get odd looking and confusing sentences like that

absentthereaper,
@absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Think they call that the “Scunthorpe Dilemma”.

surewhynotlem,

Can something be a slur if no one is offended by it?

4am,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

Thus successfully agitating liberals into censoring a word that originally was created by the black community to highlight the calling out of systemic racism and it’s lasting effects on society.

Which means the assholes win.

Zeroxxx,
@Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id avatar

Not woke does not mean racist.

blackbelt352,

People who base their identities about calling things woke or not woke are in fact very likely to be racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or transphobic.

Zeroxxx,
@Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id avatar

100% true nonsense.

Extraltodeus,

Or some people don’t appreciate the bullshit constantly pushed?

STUPIDVIPGUY,

Depends on what you consider bullshit. And if you complain about woke you probably have stupid opinions.

True that some ‘woke’ game suck, like that most recent saint’s row. But that’s because the writing is terrible, not because it includes minorities. Just an example

Alterforlett,

The bullshit wouldn’t be pushed if marginalized people in our society would be treated the same as everyone else and you know it. Grow up and stop being annoyed with black mermaids ffs

Roundcat,
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

Like what? what don't you appreciate? What exactly and specifically about it is bullshit? Are we too afraid to say what we actually hate about the content being presented?

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s gotten to the point that anyone who actually uses “woke” as an insult just looks completely ridiculous now.

absentthereaper,
@absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml avatar

“But you’re just gonna power right on through it, aren’t you?” – Lana Kane

AshLassay, (edited )

Ten years ago it was called “politics”.

Keep women and non-Anglo Saxon people politics out of my war games based on real world conflicts - Gamer™

Rom,
@Rom@lemmy.world avatar

Ten years before that it was “political correctness” when gamers weren’t allowed to use the n-word.

Pokethat,

I don’t use it because it’s social suicide, but I think either everyone should be allowed to use it or no one should. But that’s like an opinion on USA tipping culture. You can have your opinions, just don’t exercise them unless you’re ready for trouble

vzq,

That’s the beauty of freedom. You are free to use it. Other people are free to shun you for being a fucking racist bigot.

Freedom is grand.

norapink,
@norapink@kbin.social avatar

I don't use it because I'm not black so it would be racist for me to... But you do you.

Also I just don't have the desire to use it.

PunnyName,

“Political”

White and political.
Male and political.
Straight and political.
Christian and political.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

I remember when being called woke was a compliment. I miss those days :(

Alterforlett,

Still is. If someone who doesn’t think anyone else but white, straight people are allowed representation in our diverse world calls you woke as a slur, you wear that as a badge of honor

BradleyUffner,

“Woke” apparently means being aware of systemic societal issues, and wanting to fix them. I’ll gladly wear that “insult”.

TheKarion,

Woke means sexist against men, racist against Caucasians and cis-phobic

MajorHavoc,

Narrator: It does not.

chicken,

That’s probably a fair assumption at this point, but I wish there was a word for egregiously obnoxious shoehorning of culture war stuff that wouldn’t get immediately diluted into a generic partisan shibboleth. For instance when they were doing the Enhanced Edition of the first games, and using the characters as mouthpieces to break the fourth wall to whine about gamergate, I don’t think you really have to be a bigot to be annoyed by it or want to put a label on that sort of thing.

HeavenAndHell, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?
@HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re that worried, just don’t play it because that apparently would be the only thing on your mind the whole time playing BG3

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

Must be mentally tiring to be a right winger. Especially a gamer ™ one.

Minusfourty,

It is.

Leshoyadut,
@Leshoyadut@kbin.social avatar

And that’s exactly the point, too. Keep you mentally tired and angry so you don’t have the energy to question why too deeply.

Minusfourty,

You ever looked at Twitter, or Lemmy for that matter? The left is every bit as bitter and angry if not more so. Currently both sides (or at least significant portions of them) think the other is in power and responsible for all their problems, and it’s the media’s job to keep us thinking that way.

kerneltux,

…all the while, reasonable people in the middle are just tired of getting bludgeoned by both sides’ messaging & want to get on with their lives.

Minusfourty,

I miss the days before identity politics when it was still possible to keep political pandering and normal life stuff separate, and just enjoy my grill. But now if you use meat on the grill, you’re pandering to the right. If you use soy or lab grown vegan meat substitutes you’re pandering to the left. And thanks to the inflation both cost too much.

Katana314,

Ah, yes. Both sides. Both sides hate net neutrality. Both sides clamouring to make healthcare worse. Both sides fighting against the right for women to control their own bodies. Both sides hinting that their supporters violently attack the opposition at rallies.

Except maybe not quite so much sometimes.

Minusfourty,

I’m with you on net neutrality. I have no problem with women doing what they want with their own bodies, it’s the child’s body I’m worried about. I’m not a huge fan of the healthcare system either, I just think giving “free” healthcare to illegal aliens and putting the government in charge of it will make things worse and not better. Honestly not sure what you’re on about with the violent attacks thing, but I’ve seen plenty of calls for violence from prominent leftists, and the “summer of love” 3 years ago destroyed quite a bit.

But either way, I’m not a “muh both sides” centrist. To the contrary, I think the media is trying to distract both of us sides from the real enemy: moderates.

Aesthesiaphilia,

There's a smaller number of rage-filled dumbasses on the left than on the right.

And the rage-filled dumbasses on the left tend to be teenagers who will grow out of it. On the right it's middle-aged people with brain rot from too much Fox News.

Tigbitties,
@Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

There are other choices.

Minusfourty,

Thanks, but I don’t want to be wrong.

PunnyName,

As someone who used to have a lot of similar opinions, it really isn’t. If anything, it was energizing to make people squirm and try to prove you wrong, only to have another issue chambered and ready to go.

They thrive on this shit. And after moving left, I’m fucking exhausted.

thesprongler,

When your entire ideology is contrarian.

LeafOnTheWind,

Especially a gaymer one

Haha, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

Lmao shut up and play the game

Zeroxxx,
@Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id avatar

Nah, woke game does not deserve audience of non woke.

CADmonkey, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

Just say all games are woke, whatever that means, and keep the rightoids out of everyone’s multi-player lobbies.

heavy, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

As an aside, it’s refreshing to see in the comments people calling “woke” out. To me, it’s yet another way to say the N-Word without saying it. I think that’s what some people mean by dogwhistling.

Roundcat, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

There should be a firefox extension that replaces the word "woke" with something crazy like "alien" or nonsensical like "gluten free"

Since the term means anything you want it to, might as well replace the word itself to anything you want. It's kind like the extension that replaces the word "millennials" with "snake people."

Kichae,

Since the term means anything you want it to

I mean, I think it's been fairly consistently used to mean "breaks my patriarchal white supremacy fantasy".

SadSadSatellite,

I feel like it would confuse me on occasion, but I love the idea of replacing it with gluten free

MrJameGumb, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

At this point if someone starts talking about how “woke” a game, tv show, movie, or book is I assume they either have no real opinion of their own, or are pushing their own agenda

Just play the fucking game. If you like it great, if you don’t then just move on, or at least write a real review about why it’s actually a bad game

Aceticon, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

The entire side-taking on this shit is one giant circle jerk (and not even in a good way) and distraction from the increasing and very much equal-opportunity fucking (again, not even in a good way) of everybody who didn’t pop-out of the vagina of somebody who is rich.

What exactly is the problem with making and enjoying games without trying to reduce all its dimensions to a single-dimensional Identitarian Politics interpretation?

I feel like somebody on the sidelines watching two groups of fans of two different soccer teams beating each other senseless because they disagree on a decision by the referee, all sense of proportion or the true importance of, well, everything else, lost.

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Ah the privilege of not taking a side.

Aceticon,

The entirety of human experience and human condition does not fit into 2 “sides”, not even close, so it’s quite the acephalic approach to look at everything through the prism of a very specific one-dimensional line with only 2 sides.

Absolutelly, have Principles, follow those Principles and then judge things according to those Principles when they do apply.

Reducing everything of importance to “sides”, on the other hand, is not being principled, it’s being mindlessly tribalist.

yata,

It is funny that you assume you are the only one with “Principles”, and then strawmanning the shit out of the opinions of everyone else.

Aceticon,

You just stated something about what’s going on in my mind, which I did not state (i.e. I did not state that “I’m the only one with principles”, not even close, and actually implied they do but go for tribalistic side-taking instead), and then you argued against that very own imaginary position you claimed I had, using an “argument” involving strawmen.

I hope you can spot the irony if you think about it enough.

Rom,
@Rom@lemmy.world avatar

Why can’t games just have no politics in them, like my favorite apolitical bideo game franchise Fallout?

yata,

There’s no “both sides” about this. The entire woke bs is a fabrication of right wingers.

Aceticon,

True.

JJROKCZ, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

It contains women and POC not being completely subservient to the nearest white man at all times and so they consider it “woke”

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

There is bear sex in it. Must be woke.

VivaceMoss,

“The future liberals want”

PunnyName,

Freedom of choice that literally affects no one?

Sign me up!

VivaceMoss,

What if my religion says you shouldn’t go around fuckin’ bears tho?

Then would you give up your bear-fuckin’?

Buddahriffic,

MY religion says I must support bear fuckers at all costs. So I guess it’s a religious war.

I don’t have time for something like that though. If I send you an Amazon gift of several bags of salt, could you kindly spread that over your fields for me? And then send a reaction video, maybe gift me some candles for my curtains and I’ll do the same.

JackbyDev,

My religion says “if he’s a bear, it’s gay, unless he’s a literal bear” but wildshaping was not known to the sages so we must mediate on this.

4am,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

So that’s what the classroom litter boxes were for; the bears. I KNEW it! /s

DrPop, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

Isn’t fantasy regularly used to parallel real world issues. Elves are constantly treated as a minority group for instance.

Tigbitties,
@Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

Fantasy and sci-fi both. There are exceptions. Starship Troopers (the novel) is very right wing and Narnia is christian-y, for example.

Buddahriffic,

Oh is the novel not satire like the movie is?

Jmdatcs,

The novel is more satirical. Over the years I’ve heard complaints that the people who made the movie, either intentionally or unintentionally, toned down the satirical aspect of the humor too much and dummies might consider it an endorsement of that kind of society.

Edit: after taking another look at his comment I think tigbitties is just saying the world of Starship Troopers is right-wing, not the message.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah, satire can be difficult to calibrate. The difference between fanatical and satirical support can be hard to spot. Or just over the top characters for the sake of entertainment without any intended message. And you might be right that it was about the world rather than the intent.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Well it’s usually high elves that are the rich elite, while wood elves and basically everything other than humans are the minorities, and humans are the “middle class”.

Kovu, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?
@Kovu@lemmy.world avatar

appreciate you posting this because it brings out all the g*mers and makes it easy for me to snipe them 🙏

ThrowawayPermanente,

Anybody who gets sniped in the comment section is a noob who needs to get good and stop being such a little bitch

baronofclubs,

Skill issue

UntouchedWagons,
@UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca avatar

Based mod.

DonnieDarkmode, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

Peering into my crystal ball, I can see that after release there will be at least one post on here showing these guys and their ilk complaining that you have the option to make a trans/nonbinary character. People gave Solasta negative reviews for letting you pick your pronouns

PostingInPublic, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

“I’m deathly afraid of the gay, is there any gay in the game? Because I don’t know what will happen if I’m confronted with the gay!!!”

“Calm down, nothing in there is going to remind you of these urges of yours, play away.”

My translation.

Here_in_Malaysia, (edited )

So the guy in the pic is just a homophobic bigot? Or homophobic but also sexist, on account of the female characters looking as worn as the male characters? I’m too old to understand what woke means, but the guy’s post is also confusing to read.

MaximumOverflow,

Nobody knows what woke actually means in cases like these because it basically signifies “anything I don’t like or agree with”.

It usually means you aren’t racist, you don’t hate gay people or any other member of the lgbt community, and treat women fairly. So like… a decent human being.

JokeDeity, in "Woke people are saying non-woke games are woke to boycott non-woke entertainment", wtf?

This is mentally ill dribble.

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