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tdawg, in Drunk drivers to pay child support to victims

Surprised in a /c like this that no one is talking about how you can prevent this on a systemic level with public transportation and mixed zoning.

I live 600 feet from a pub. If I went out of my area I can take one of several different busses to get back within walking distance to my apartment. Don’t have to worry about getting home if you can walk there.

The biggest issue with American solutions is they always look at problem solving backwards. You want to fix society level issues on the society level. Expecting people to fix it themselves never works or we wouldn’t already be in this mess

Nouveau_Burnswick,

I live 300m to a pub, but it’s 500m back!

tdawg,

lol that’s pretty good. Stealing that

sadreality,

They are act like punishing the driver fixes the problem. Sure fine, punish them but we going to have another one doing the same tom and again.

tdawg,

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure

baseless_discourse, in Drunk drivers to pay child support to victims

Um… Why is not this law in effect like everywhere? Like otherwise you just ruin a etire family and just like “ooooops, too bad”?

j4k3,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. That should be everywhere. It shouldn’t be just kids either. If you disable someone you should be paying similar support for the rest of your life.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

Because it disproportionately impacts the poor, likely doesn’t result in much actual support, AND can be used to justify lesser sentencing otherwise.

A poor person kills someone? They are beggared, the family doesn’t really get anything, and the world moves on.

A rich person kills someone? Well, they already are suffering enough so let’s just go with the child support. And then they likely stiff the bill anyway because their lawyers can argue that it isn’t even worth mailing the pocket change every month.

Weregilds have historically been how the rich get away with murder and how the poor are turned into slaves.

baseless_discourse,

I think I have two question about this:

First, in this hyper capitalistic society, isn’t everything bad for the poor, from the legal system to democracy itself. For example you can argue the poor lacks the time and resource to properly understand the policy, hence more likely to be misled by the candidate.

And in this specific cases, the public can pay for it if the person is poor enough, like declaring bankrupt. I am not so familiar with the procedure and loopholes related to bankrupt, so feel free to educate me on that.

On the other hand, I don’t think rich people should be able to get away from jail time simply because they have paid money. Unfortunately this is seen through out our legal system. So I am definitely not supporting that. But I imagine the law can be easily changed to add the child care/medicare cost to the existing manslaughter sentence, instead of replacing the manslaughter sentence?

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

Mostly you are just pointing out the systemic issues of late stage capitalism.

But as for sentencing: judges have an insane amount of power in that regard. And they are often biased shitbags who will do everything in their power to be lenient to “pillars of the community”. So if you give them a meaningless punishment, they’ll immediately use that and then talk about how it is important to rehabilitate rich white people and that excessive punishment is not the law.

wheeldawg,

I honestly don’t care if a poor person is worse than “beggared” by the sentence.

Thing is, the rich person should be, too. Make it scale based on available resources.

I think around 90% of all available money on the poor end to 99.999% on the rich end is fair. Or I’m the case of Bezos-level richies, leave them with about $5 a year to live on.

This mistake should essentially completely ruin the drunk’s entire life permanently. No reason to spare them any misery. There’s no other way to make it a law not worth breaking into you make it absolutely impossible to live with doing it.

There are issues to work on about who receives the money to prevent further problems, but it’s a start.

veganpizza69, in Are self-driving cars already safer than human drivers? Answer: It raises a different point
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

Pick one:

  • cars
  • cities
Adeptfuckup, in Are self-driving cars already safer than human drivers? Answer: It raises a different point

I have found that the self driving cars actually do yield to me in the crosswalk, which is nice. Contrast to human drivers who will try to run me over because I need to “get out of the street” while crossing . Parked vehicles block emergency vehicles countless times daily… but you don’t hear about that shit do you? Also SFFD park their emergency vehicles on the tram tracks when they don’t need to. Delaying thousands of commuters, all while letting people in cars go past the accident scene unhindered. SF is at war with its transit riders. SF is corrupt. It takes 7 fucking years to remove one parking spot. There’s so much more to this shit saga.

nbafantest,

I have also found this to be true. What I don’t like is that there is no way to be certain that they do see you.

As a pedestrian/cyclist, it is very easy to see if the driver sees you/doesn’t see you. And cross accordingly.

Self driving cars, you simply have to hope and pray while you cross.

creditCrazy, in Are self-driving cars already safer than human drivers? Answer: It raises a different point
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Personally I don’t get the appeal of self driving cars maybe that’s because I enjoy driving manuals but in terms of making a city efficient you want ways to get around without a car in the first place with transportation like trains or bikes or just walking and for those who live in the middle of nowhere and in the future are going to be the last people to drive cars to get around those folks tend to be car guys and car guys like to be in control of the car hence why a lot of them drive stick shift when automatic exists all around if we as a society evolve in a utopian direction self driving cars are a solution without a problem to fix not to mention how many of the corpos that are likely to make these cars they are most sertanly going to put some sort of spy ware that a few will get up into arms about

neanderthal,

making a city efficient you want ways to get around without a car in the first place

I couldn’t agree more.

chumbalumber,

In terms of how it can form part of a transport network, demand responsive transport could (and maybe should) form a part of our future infrastructure.

For cities in particular, there is major demand for radial trips (i.e. trips to and from the centre). However, there is much lower demand for trips between suburbs (e.g. to and from the supermarket). If we want to eliminate the need for car ownership, we either need to eliminate suburbs as a concept (not likely), or make these trips able to be made by publically owned transport. Buses aren’t worth running in these cases because demand is so low and irregular.

Here’s where demand responsive transport comes in. Have a fleet of publicly owned self-driving cars that people can book trips on. They get a lift with these to and from the shops/library/friend’s house, and they no longer need to own a car.

Other example: at the other end of a long train journey to a rural area. You have a fleet of self driving cars based at the station, which solely do trips to/from the station.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Good point but from what I understand about suburbs is that they are awfully designed with roads that connect and bend for no reason resulting in situations where it takes 2 minutes to walk to your left next door nabor and a 30 minute drive to visit your next door nabor on the other side of your house all because the road just ends but there’s more suburb beyond if we just made them grids suddenly it takes a lot more acors to make a suburbs bikeable we could probably make them walkable by ditching the single house per block and just use multi story apartment buildings I’m not even trying to defend suburbs I’d be more than extatic to have them torn down and made into normal cities or better yet actual countryside that they originally bulldozed to build them in the first place I’ve seen a plenty of beloved farm land that used to be grased upon by adorable cows and sheep get flattend and drained just to make a waste of space

neanderthal,

You are correct about suburbia. There are also typically no sidewalks and minimal shoulders, so even if you live within walking or biking distance of places, it is dangerous to not drive there.

In the US, some of this stems from racism. I don’t feel like getting into the history of it, but if you are interested, red lining, restrictive covenants, and using the cost of car dependency as a racial filter are good starters. Basically, the US suburb situation came about partially due to racism, and partially due to hostile takeover of transportation infrastructure and PR campaigns by corporations.

Humana, in Are self-driving cars already safer than human drivers? Answer: It raises a different point

Personal cars and communities are mutually exclusive. Cars make sense in places too sparsely populated to have a community, or where people don’t want to be part of a community.

TheHalc,

I understand where you’re coming from, but some of the strongest communities are in rural places where public transport is unfortunately not a sustainable option.

narF,

The reason places are too sparse is because cars. They take too much space.

alvvayson, in Are self-driving cars already safer than human drivers? Answer: It raises a different point

Like riding horses, driving a car should become a hobby.

Once you’ve lived in a walkable neighborhood, everything else just pales in comparison.

wintermute_oregon,

I agree with the walkable comment. I use to live in downtown Chicago. I loved it. I could walk to do 90% of my chores within a mile of my home.

sizzling, in What kind of asshole is buying this shit (2023 Wagoneer by Jeep).

Going to the American version of the link required me to fill in a zip code… what kind of site are these people running?

PizzasDontWearCapes,

90210

Prethoryn,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

They look for locations close to your zip because a zip doesn’t reveal your entire address and your entire address isn’t needed.

Then it gets an idea of your whereabouts and if you want to purchase a vehicle it looks at dealerships near you I think or if you order I think you can have it shipped to a dealership in your area.

I dunno, I don’t buy cars.

Treczoks, in Berliners rave against the motorway as extension threatens 20 cultural venues

To put it into perspective for the British readers. Imagine the London orbital was lacking a bit, e.g. no M25 between Oxted and Merstham, and all the traffic would go through local roads.

The highway would bring extreme noise and pollution to the city.

On the contrary. Closing the ring Autobahn gap would very much reduce the traffic - especially the stop-and-go traffic on local roads. The new piece of Autobahn would be forced to be very low on noise, as Germany already has insane requirements on sound insulation for new and renovated roads - there was a news item recently that they had to erect a sound isolating barrier on a German road to protect a cemetry from the noise. As if the inhabitants would complain.

VonReposti,

To be fair, a cemetery is one if the last places I’d like a noise complaint from.

MrMakabar,
@MrMakabar@slrpnk.net avatar

Induced demand. This will lead to the motorway being full AND all the local roads also having traffic jams. We saw this happen all over the place. If you were to close of local roads, make the slower to drive or something similar, it might work, but that is not the plan. This is building a motorway throu land, which has perfectly good public transport and is walkable. Cycling infrastrucutre is around, but if you were to actually use unneed local roads to extend that, it would be easy too.

RockyBockySocky,

So what you're saying is.. just one more lane?

elouboub, in Berliners rave against the motorway as extension threatens 20 cultural venues
@elouboub@kbin.social avatar

They brought it upon themselves. This is being pushed by the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and Social Party of Deutschland (SPD), which were confirmed another legislature period of 5 years in April with 64% voter participation.

Decisions are made by those who show up. Now they'll have to live with these idiots in parliament until 2026. I feel for them, but if ~40% of voters can't be bothered to show up to the urns, you have a large part to play in the reason for this even being possible.

HelloHotel, in What kind of asshole is buying this shit (2023 Wagoneer by Jeep).
@HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

Amazon Fire TV built-in

okay, DAFUQ?

EDIT: ohh… its likely for your kid and not for the driver.

ShittyRedditWasBetter, in What kind of asshole is buying this shit (2023 Wagoneer by Jeep).

People with money?

It tows a lot and it’s a far better daily than a pickup.

No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston,

Just like Cadillacs, there’s a saying about how can you know someone is good at making money but not good at how to spend it, and this is the proof.

Zoidberg, in What kind of asshole is buying this shit (2023 Wagoneer by Jeep).

I love how JD Powell has a stupid award for everything (and they don’t mean anything, they’re just a stupid marketing company.)

Want to have a best truck award but don’t have the best truck? Well, we can sell you a “Best Truck under 4 tons” award. Don’t have the best truck under 4 tons either? We have a “Best truck under 4 tons under $45k” for you…

And it just keeps getting more ridiculous.

Nouveau_Burnswick,

Best vehicle in class

Class of one vehicle

booly,

Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

Nouveau_Burnswick,

Canyonarrrr-oooo

HYYAH!

lemmylommy, in Berliners rave against the motorway as extension threatens 20 cultural venues

„The highway would bring extreme noise and pollution to the city.“ - a DJ

I wonder if he gets the irony in that.

PunnyName,

Ah, you’re one of those people who doesn’t like music. A rare find!

ShroOmeric,

I’ll surprise you with a fact: a DJ only bring noise to people who asked for it.
Not so much the highway.

gonzo0815,

Are you aware of the difference between “once” and “all the time”?

lemann,

The DJ is paid to make the noise, good noise at that too 🤸‍♂️🕺

The cars… not so much. I’d rather a couple nights a year of boom boom music, than revving, whooshing, beeping and inevitable road repair/construction noises back-to-back non stop

DLSchichtl, in What kind of asshole is buying this shit (2023 Wagoneer by Jeep).

Such a weirdly specific thing to be angry about. You guys are weird.

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