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kalleboo, in [meme] Trains -- not driverless cars -- are the future of transportation

You really want my kids screaming on the train during your commute?

Desistance,

Apparently, yes. And also the mentally ill people who aren’t medicated causing a scene.

jerkface, in 482 foot acceleration lane for a road with a… 25mph speed limit
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Almost as bad as this nightmare in my town. Another view in this article about the world’s worst bike lanes. Nothing has been done about it in years AFAIK.

austin, in [meta][discussion] Rules for this Community

Should also include: don’t invite violence against people who simply own cars.

KillAllPoorPeople,

A blanket rule like that is deeply troubling. I’m glad the mods ignored you.

austin,

Our goal is to peacefully encourage more people to cycle and convince car owners to use their car for less trips when viable to do so. A lot of people own cars, would calling them Nazis really help our cause?

My vision is we make cyclists and public transit users look like responsible happy citizens and attract jealousy of those stuck in traffic.

Jake_Farm, in Why we need fewer driverless cars and more carless drivers
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Once self driving cars are perfected, car ownership will plummet.

FinalRemix,

I already don’t want 'em now. Fuck cars that’re so loaded with tech, you can’t do shadetree repairs, and have abysmally bad sightlines requiring more safety tech to offset shit design.

Blubton,

This may be true, but reduced car ownership will not solve many issues with cars, like the vehicle miles travelled. If we don’t change our lifestyles, we will still emit a lot of CO2. Here is a Dutch graph (maybe you can translate it, otherwise let me know!) showing that only that the production of the car causes less than half the CO2 emissions for EV’s (the second to last one in the graph). https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/8e2d47e6-4a1a-4220-83dc-164744ba913e.jpegIf we want to reduce emissions more than that, which we really need to do, we need to find something else, like biking, which is way cleaner.

Jake_Farm,
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Cities need to be designed to be bikeable. Yelling at people to bike more while living areas that designed to kill them is unproductive.

Blubton,

I completely agree with this and I would never blame anyone who doesn’t bike without good infrastructure. What I meant was that instead of hoping that self-driving cars will solve all issues, we should be pushing for better alternatives, beginning with improving infrastructure. Maybe I wasn’t clear in my previous comment, because as a Dutchman I am used to safe bike infrastructure (public transit is not so great). To summarize my opinion: we need policies that support safe infrastructure to create alternatives to driving, because cars are never the solution to climate change. Biking should be made safe and convenient, so people will actually use it.

Jake_Farm,
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Sorry I didnt mean you specifically. I had the many posts telling americans to just bike more in mind when I was saying this.

Jake_Farm,
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In the US, a significant amound of land and road in cities is devoted to parking, with a drop in parked cars and cars ownership, that land can be more easily repurposed to better bike lanes and denser housing.

art,
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So… Never?

papertowels, in [discussion] Who thought this was a good idea?

Looked through the comments and was surprised to see nobody brought up the ford maverick - starts at 25k, 40 mpg for the hybrid version.

M0oP0o,
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Comparing apples to apples, since the price of the Ridgeline here is $50k the maverick starts at $34,795 here, and the hybrid starts at $35,295 according to the ford website.

Still a lot better on both price and fuel (if true), but the four doors, huge size (about the same as the ridgeline) and short (4.5 foot) bed still make me sad. If they had a two door long bed version it would be cool though.

papertowels, (edited )

Just to make sure you’re doing a fair comparison, how much is a new Odyssey where you’re at?

I’m seeing the Honda Odyssey you’re comparing things to cost 37k USD new, where the ford maverick starts at 24k new. At less than 2/3 the cost of what you’re comparing to, the maverick seems like damn good value. At that price point you’re comparing it to sedans like the Honda civic or Toyota Camry.

The maverick carries 4 folks with better mileage and can moonlight doing truck things.

M0oP0o,
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$54,096.25 for the Odyssey here, and that is kinda insane.

Joseph58tech, in [meme] Being forced to drive isn't freedom — it's a government-mandated lifetime subscription to oil
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See, there’s alot of major inconveniences with rejecting getting a car or other road legal motor vehicle. Not everyone lives in the city, therefore trying to walk or bike to places while living in a rural or even sub-urban area is not necessary ideal (if even practically possible). Having a car or bike or whatever to get you on the road efficiently lets anyone go wherever they need to go with practically and ease. Now yes I know public transport exist, but one: you are one their schedule and two: not many areas other than mainstream and urban and areas have full access to public transport.

MoodyRaincloud,

As usual this has become yet another tribal issue where you either defend the car or defend walking and biking.

You can do both without your head exploding. I know. Shocker.

jol,

You can have both. You can have a car and still be able to walk or bike to do small daily groceries, go to the pharmacy, get bread etc. I mean, not rural middle of the fields, but small rural villages where I lived in Germany were like that.

Only in the USA do you have to pick. The suburban sparwl with strict zoning is an abomination. All for the sake of property values.

pHr34kY, in [discussion] Who thought this was a good idea?

This would probably sell in Australia, where the two most popular cars are the Toyota Hilux and Ford Ranger.

They account for about 25% of the cars on the road and they get nothing but contempt when I’m driving around them.

M0oP0o, (edited )
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Leku, in [meme] Urbanists 🤝 Pastoralists

Which cities do you think handle this well?

Fried_out_Kombi,
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It’s not so much as city as a town, but this video on Brattleboro, Vermont makes it sound like quite a nice mix of dense urbanism + surrounding nature.

Kit,

Mostly smaller college towns in rural areas.

Gabu,

São Paulo is in the top 10 of largest cities in the world, and we have an acceptably decent amount of protected natural spaces, both within the city and around it.

mondoman712,

Swiss cities are quite small but they tend to be dense and have a quick transition to forest or farmland.

9point6,

Basically any major city in Europe has this down already, or is close to it

LordWiggle, in Why safety and vehicle speed are incompatible goals for street design

I live I nthe Netherlands. The Dutch road system has a very good reputation. And I agree, I love our infrastructure. I hope it is an example for the rest of the world.

When I started driving myself, I loved to drive fast on the highway. I arrived supper annoyed at my destination as I had to evade near exidents ndue to people texting or just not paying attention. When I started to drive slow, making sure I wasn’t blocking others, I arrived calm and only 10min later then when I was speeding all the time. Also, most traffic jams happen because eof speeding people. They break more, which causes jams. In a traffic jam, try to maintain a constant speed, while barely breaking, keeping a lot of room in front of you. This helps solve traffic jams, of everyone would do this.

NarrativeBear,

Same experience as you, when you drive slow and calm you find you arrive more calm and relaxed. Less traffic as well and most times there is the added benefit of not being stuck at the next red as it turns green before you get there.

winterayars, in [meme] Just one more lane bro

In the style of the “aliens” guy: “Roundabouts!”

Squirrel, in [meme] Being forced to drive isn't freedom — it's a government-mandated lifetime subscription to oil
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  • jmcs,

    If you can push a shopping cart around in a gigantic supermarket and parking lot you can walk to the nearest grocery store in any well designed city.

    neuropean, in Why safety and vehicle speed are incompatible goals for street design

    I mean it’s pretty obvious from the headline, but the goal is to compromise if you’re to have any meaningful volume of transportation.

    LibertyLizard,
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    We’ve already compromised too much by allowing cars in cities at all. If you are going to drive around innocent bystanders it needs to be done in a safe manner. Saving a minute on your commute is insignificant compared to a life.

    Nouveau_Burnswick, in [video] 25 Battles Montreal Fought (and Won) Against Car-Centric Design | Oh The Urbanity!

    As another Montréal resident, this list is far from exclusive, and similar projects to each of those is happening in many of the burroughs.

    We’ve also got lost of other projects that don’t even make the radar. My neighborhood had a road turn into a community center!. Plus Rue Island has gone through three or four vélorue transformations.

    I look forward to seeing the resolution of the Gilbert-Dubé vélopath upgrades (Verdun bicycles PSC handshake.meme)

    bus_go_fast,

    Great news!

    LemmyIsFantastic, in It's sad our society is okay with people driving around like maniacs

    Very few are okay with this. Hence the laws and speed limits.

    You can read this in the title of the video. The man was charged with a crime.

    bus_go_fast,

    Because he killed someone. People drive like maniacs all the time and people defend it and change the subject to blaming pedestrians on their phones. People do dangerous things in their cars all the time.

    LemmyIsFantastic,

    And they are arrested and charged if caught.

    bus_go_fast,

    You’re missing the point. And a lot of times people aren’t changed when they kill someone with their car.

    LemmyIsFantastic,

    Please elaborate your point then. Of course if it was an accident with no negligence a person isn’t going to be charged nor should they.

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  • TimtheTimTim,

    Here are some links that show little to no punishment when the driver is clearly in the wrong.

    apnews.com/…/fort-wayne-officer-guilty-fatal-pede…

    channel3000.com/…/article_b698ea76-5d7a-11ee-bbbe…

    bionicjoey,

    We all know that isn’t true most of the time.

    LemmyIsFantastic,

    Do you have any data whatsoever? Or is this more truthiness type stuff?

    bionicjoey,

    I mean, I’ve literally watched people violate traffic laws all the damn time and suffer no consequences.

    Nouveau_Burnswick,

    Here’s 45 minutes at a single Montréal intersection. 61 motor vehicle infractions, 1 bicycle infraction, zero tickets.

    Take a look at any non congested highway and see how many speeding infractions their are; rarely unforced (at my last job I conducted about 1,000 speeding infractions per year, and recieved zero tickets).

    Here’s an article on thecorrelation between reducing traffic enforcement and leathality of roadways.

    Cringe2793, in Why does everyone shit on bycicles but never on cars???

    Errr. Have you been on the Internet? People shit on cars and trucks regularly.

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