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gayhitler420, in Compact car

Replace all modern full size pickups with this, fr.

lemmy, in What are the benefits of not owning a car?

For me, the biggest benefit is the mental load I no longer have. I used to have to think about maintenance, MOT schedule, road tax scheduling, insurance scheduling, renewing my parking certificate, how much I drink, where I’m going to park, did I run out of time on the parking meter, is there traffic on my route, where are the road works…

The mental energy I’d waste just to deal with a car was massive. There’s still mental energy with public transit, like what is the schedule and which bus do I need to be on to make it in time, and what do I do if a stop isn’t near my destination, but it’s a lot less mental load than having a car.

Schlemmy,

I use the transit app for planning my rides on public transport when abroad. It makes planning a breeze. In my own country our national transport companies have decent planners in their apps.

Schlemmy,

I use the transit app for planning my rides on public transport when abroad. It makes planning a breeze. In my own country our national transport companies have decent planners in their apps.

meowMix2525, in Downtown Northville reopens to traffic for 1st time since COVID.

I live in a neighboring community and oh my god the whining on the nextdoor app about “muh property values, won’t anybody think of the cars!!!” and making excuses about it hurting businesses that have only seen more business with the road closures was unreal.

Not to mention all the perfectly able people too lazy to walk a block from parking acting like it’s a virtue and the world should cater to cars because some people have mobility issues… issues that probably resulted in the first place from there being so few reasons to walk around here. Not to throw strays at the disabled but I doubt these people would ever support any alternative that would let those with mobility issues get around town without a car.

Iampossiblyatwork,

No one would be mad if you posted screenshots.

meowMix2525,

I might but it would mean trudging through that cesspool again…

Iampossiblyatwork,

It’s pretty bad. The best one was… “If they didn’t want us driving there then there wouldn’t be a road there!!”

Oblivious to how change can occur.

Iampossiblyatwork,
jackoneill, in [image] I can't wait to see more trucks replaced with bikes

Man, you need to deliver a bunch of packages to a bunch of people quickly? Have I got the invention for you - it’s called a truck!

stoy,

Even better, a milk float!

Pipoca,

Trucks have their uses, but you run into problems with them in cities. Think of the stories you hear about trucks double parking in NYC, and the crackdowns on that there.

The advantage of this seems to be that it’s narrow. You’ll probably be able to take them onto bike paths and into pedestrianized areas easier, and have fewer problems parking them.

Yes, they’re not a great solution for deliveries to a suburban stroad. But equally, a truck is a terrible delivery vehicle in downtown Barcelona.

jackoneill,

That’s completely fair. I bet there are plenty of dense urban last mile use cases for this thing

UnderpantsWeevil, in The dream 🚲
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I’d much prefer bicycles be affordable.

ccunix,

They are, but that is a halo product

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Certainly has a product placement feel to it.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I got one for $20 at a garage sale and worked ok until the tires gave out and I haven’t gotten around to changing them yet. But I don’t need high performance tires or anything since I just bike around the neighborhood, so that will be what, another $50? Bikes are cheap if you don’t care if they’re brand new.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Finding one that’s the right size can sometimes feel like you won the lottery.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Actually, I’ll admit it is slightly too big for me, but it only bothered me a little at first and then I got used to it.

Colour_me_triggered, in The dream 🚲

3 years jail time for theft.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

5 years for being gay.

Colour_me_triggered,

How many feet pics do you get, by the way?

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Beats the American system where they put 30 rounds into your back for lunging at them while smoking a joint.

Reddit_Is_Trash,

Should be a lot more… theft should not be tolerated and severely punished

Colour_me_triggered,

You’re a tyrant

Reddit_Is_Trash,

You do realize theft is a choice?

You can choose to not spend years of your life in jail by not taking things that don’t belong to you

Colour_me_triggered,

For a lot of thieves, it’s a choice of eating or not eating. It’s a very privileged position to be able to say “theft is a choice” and mean it.

Reddit_Is_Trash,

I saw that video of the group of degenerates stealing hundreds of pairs of socks from a discount store, something tells me they weren’t planning on eating those socks

Colour_me_triggered,

Maybe they were too poor to buy both clothes and food. Shit’s tight for a lot of people now. Me and my SO both have pretty nice middle class jobs and still have to be really careful with our money. If I was still a pizza cook I wouldn’t be able to afford clothes for both me and my kids, for sure.

Unless you know what circumstances are driving someone to crime, you aren’t in a position to judge them.

harry315, in Dubai Metro to have new 30-km Blue Line - News | Khaleej Times

I like the irony. The people earning a non negligible amount of their income through cars get a modern train line to commute

Artyom, in [discussion] Who thought this was a good idea?

My favorite part is that the Odyssey can store larger items because of the removable back seats. If you need to move a fridge, don’t call the guy who owns a truck, call the guy who owns an Odyssey.

vynlwombat,

You probably don’t want mulch in your odyssey though. So call the guy with the truck if you’re buying mulch.

Artyom,

I’ve done mulch in an Odyssey, just lay out a tarp. Most tarps are already bigger than a modern truckbed too.

vynlwombat,

You shoveled a bunch of mulch into the back of your minivan?

Artyom, (edited )

Yeah, with the seats taken out on top of a camping tarp. It’s got a WAY lower bed than a truck, so it’s easier to load and unload too.

vynlwombat,

How’d you get it out? Just pull the tarp?

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I see people with trucks to this all the time, you put the tarp down (so you don’t scratch your fancy bedliner) and when you want to empty it you use a shovel or whatever then grab the tarp in the back and pull it. Ta da, you dump the rest of the stuff out the back and get nothing left behind.

vynlwombat,

Maybe it’s just easier to get all the mulch out when it’s on a tarp

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Fair enough, but waiting behind them in line for 20 min while they very meticulously put out their tarp has given me a negative outlook on tarp truck users.

lemmyingly, in Because people can't seem to visualize it

I think it’s funny because even if cars weren’t invented then the images presented would still be the same. Cars followed the convention that was before them… horses, and horses with carts and cartridges.

spiphy,

Not really, cars are faster and more deadly. People had to be somewhat careful. The auto industry invented a slur (jaywalking) to convince people the street was no a place for people outside of a car. Look up old footage of cities, people are everywhere in the street.

lemmyingly,

The topic is “Look at the roads, this is because of cars”… Well, no it’s not at all. It was already like this before cars were invented.

Furthermore, Americans invented the slur. Everywhere else in the world it’s called crossing the road and is perfectly normal.

yA3xAKQMbq, (edited )

Ever seen pictures and movies (yes, they exist) before cars were the norm? Streets were for people. People were not “crossing” the road, they walked . People walked everywhere.

lemmyingly, (edited )

You and I have seen very different imagery then. I have not seen an image as you have described, yet I have seen many images of what I described. No bias in the search either “roads before cars existed”. Obviously I’ve just done it now to check if I was wrong.

Edit: …files.wordpress.com/…/eastermorning1900nyc.jpg

…wordpress.com/…/army-and-navy-store-1895-city-of…

…quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bc51b3a2f8abf02a00072d26b…

yA3xAKQMbq,

See above…

lemmyingly,

See my edit too.

yA3xAKQMbq,

Congratulations, you found three pictures of the two largest cities in Europe and the US at their time. Where there streets with mostly horse carriages? Yes. Where they the norm? No.

Why and when do you think traffic lights and zebra were invented. Why didn’t they exist before?

lemmyingly,

You answered your own questions with opinions. Your last couple of questions are irrelevant.

The issue of the topic was around before cars were invented. I’m sorry it doesn’t fit your agenda.

Smoogs, in [meme] Urbanists 🤝 Pastoralists

Also make it safe public transport in which it can support the infrastructure of the population.

Dozzi92, in [meme] Just one more lane bro
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

They are in the process of doing this in NJ and it’s infuriating. The approach to the Holland Tunnel, which is busy (understatement), they’re adding another lane, as though that will somehow be the solution. And I can say with some authority that anyone who drives the Turnpike Extension through Jersey City, majority of those people are going to continue on if their destination is Manhattan. It is an absolutely boneheaded move, with plenty of public opposition, but they are chugging along. Smells like corruption to me.

At the very least there are funds allocated and ground has broken building new train tunnels into NYC, but it’s bittersweet knowing billions are being wasted widening a road that doesn’t have a capacity problem so much as it has a 100 year old tunnel at its termination.

RaoulDook, in [meme] Being forced to drive isn't freedom — it's a government-mandated lifetime subscription to oil

Counterpoint: having a working car makes a human being have vastly more freedom to travel than not having a car.

Having a car means you can drive to anywhere that roads on your continent lead to, and even to places that don’t have roads if your car is off-road capable. Without a car, you have to hire transport to get to anywhere you can’t get to by your human body power.

I would never live without a car unless it was physically impossible. Law banning cars would not stop me, I would build my own fucking car if I had to.

psud,

You’re arguing for having a car in a thread about needing a car

It’s not about banning cars, it’s about designing places to make them not necessary

Where I live you can walk to the local shops

Loads of people drive, but you don’t have to. This is good.

Fried_out_Kombi,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. There’s a pattern I’ve noticed of people interpreting “car dependency reduces freedom” as “car ownership reduces freedom”. But the point you, I, and many others are trying to make is that building our cities in such a way that no one has a choice but to drive everywhere is counter to the idea of freedom.

Freedom is the freedom to choose how you want to get about your city and not be coerced into owning and maintaining a (rather expensive) vehicle just to get groceries. People want choices.

psud,

(I like your username, except now I have the song in my head)

slackassassin,

People interpret it that way because the community is called “fuck cars” and some users are very toxic and don’t present the nuances very well.

A lot of people support better public transportation. But nobody is being won over to the movement with antagonism and name calling.

There’s some good discussions too, I get it, but it’s no surprise that misunderstanding occurs.

driving_crooner, (edited )
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

had a car to drive anywhere

drives to the same 3 spots 99% of the time

Explain that.

RaoulDook,

Not hard to explain at all. I am lazy and I enjoy the cool stuff I have at home more than I enjoy traveling frequently. But in my case it would be driving to the same 5 to 10 spots most of the time. I go to different cities to visit people or a dispensary with a better selection, etc.

It’s pretty cool to have the option to do any of the above anytime I want.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s too bad you don’t have the freedom to rent a car…

RaoulDook,

Yes I do. Do you not?

Dendrologist, in [meme] How to reframe car-dependent zoning into terms that so-called Freedom-Loving Patriots™ can (hopefully) understand

open.spotify.com/track/4VJrTc5QPr13zgkwxaTjjN?si=…

Little boxes on the hillside

Little boxes made of ticky tacky

Little boxes on the hillside

Little boxes all the same

Fried_out_Kombi,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

That song captures such a mood. Love it.

epyon22, in and no this is not an invitation for oil addicts to rant about EVs

They have a lower emissions after a few years even with higher initial manufacturing emissions even in areas with coal as the source of power, just takes longer to recoup. youtu.be/6RhtiPefVzM?si=ythLgdv93D6zC3WM

They allow for government to control the means of electricity production that powers these vehicles

While not perfect it is a decent step to remove the individual citizen’s direct pollution and leave control In the hands of government. This is where the change needs to happen for manufacturing and other large scale polluters.

Kecessa,

On the second part: That’s just because for some reason most governments don’t care that it would be much more profitable to everyone if state corporations took care of petrol exploitation instead of private companies that profit few investors…

trailing9, in Buying medicine late at night in a car dependent city

If my life depends on it I would call an Uber or cab or ask my neighbor.

That doesn’t take away the point that cities should be designed better.

AlligatorBlizzard,

Or call an ambulance. In some places, sure, Uber or a taxi is the right choice because you can’t afford the ambulance, but societies without universal healthcare have deeply fucked priorities.

souperk, (edited )
@souperk@reddthat.com avatar

We have universal health care, though it is severely underfunded, and the government is trying to privatize it.

Deeply fucked priorities it is indeed.

The wait times for ambulances are horrific, last month there were 3 stories of an ambulance arriving more than 2 hours later only to pickup a corpse.

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