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amzd, in 2 bicycle riders hit by suspected impaired driver in Lenexa

picture shows infinite space to put a bike path next to the road

lntl, in 2 bicycle riders hit by suspected impaired driver in Lenexa

Chavez told the Post in response to questions that he believes both bicyclists were wearing helmets.

That stretch of 83rd Street has four lanes with no shoulders and a posted speed limit of 45 miles per hour.

Lol, they talk about helmets.

HurlingDurling, in 2 bicycle riders hit by suspected impaired driver in Lenexa

This is why I always will say that the share the road campaign is and will always be pure bullshit. I love to ride my bike, but if I have to ride my bike with giant trucks and SUV’s imma going to say fuck to that and drive my car.

Cyclists need their own dedicated and barrier protected lane.

GBU_28,

I don’t even want to ride with mini coopers or vw golfs. I refuse to ride on a road improved, aside from a slow neighborhood

SuperSpruce, in Fort Wayne police sergeant fined $35.50 for fatally striking pedestrian in crosswalk

But if you roll a stop sign, you have to pay a fine of $129.50…

Exusia,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

What the fuck mine was $235

Adeptfuckup, in Fort Wayne police sergeant fined $35.50 for fatally striking pedestrian in crosswalk

Yep! I’ve noticed my life is worth considerably less than a parked vehicle. So this sadly doesn’t surprise me. They might paint more lines though!!! So that’s neat. Right? Count the bodies like sheep.

const_void, in 2 bicycle riders hit by suspected impaired driver in Lenexa

At least they didn’t title it as “Bicycle collides with vehicle” this time

3laws,

Murderous cyclists try to run over disabled innocent driving a 1.5 ton metal machine.

instamat,

Were the cyclists “woke?” Is this how “woke” works??

austin,

By putting bicycle at the start of the news article, it makes the topic about bike riders instead of the topic being about bad driving.

See the impression titles give, just by the ordering of the words:

“Bicycle riders hit by car” - cycling is dangerous and don’t belong on the road

“Car hits bicycle riders” - how sad, poor cyclists, irresponsible driver

FlashMobOfOne, in Fort Wayne police sergeant fined $35.50 for fatally striking pedestrian in crosswalk
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

“Fatally striking”

The AP is usually pretty neutral, but that language is way, way too euphemistic here. The real work is murdering. The cop murdered this person.

hydrospanner,

False.

Murder is defined in Indiana as either the intentional killing of another person without justification, or causing the death of someone while committing or attempting to commit a violent felony, regardless of intent to kill (the felony murder rule).

Definitions matter.

I’m not arguing the horrible nature of the event or careless disregard on the account of the perpetrator, but incorrect statements like this are how we’ve ended up in a situation where people throw around terms like “fascist” and “communist” for anything they don’t like, and as a result, many people have no idea what those words actually mean.

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

I couldn’t care less about the legal definition.

This cop had a history of pulling shit like this. He’s a murderer, and people being willing to make excuses for it and treating the police as some sort of civic religion is how we got here.

SamboT,

And this is why mob rule isn’t the way to run a society lmao.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Manslaughter is the typical term, a subset of homicide. Murder is hyperbolic without established motive, say, being in an Agatha Christie cozy.

Bob_Robertson_IX, in Fort Wayne police sergeant fined $35.50 for fatally striking pedestrian in crosswalk

I wonder what the fine is if you happen to run over a cop in Ft. Wayne?

What if that cop is dressed in all dark clothes at night?

What if that cop is working on the side of the road, or even in the middle of a lane?

What if that cop has his extremely bright, flashing, and distracting colored LED lights blinding all traffic?

It would still be $35.50, right?

Adeptfuckup,

Yes of course it would! eats tidepod. Equal justice under lol fuck you I got mine.

Zealousideal_Fox900, in Fort Wayne police sergeant fined $35.50 for fatally striking pedestrian in crosswalk

MERICAAAAAAAAA! Try the brand new police only deal: 1 runover only $35! Limited time!

Adeptfuckup,

Life is too short, so love the one you got. Because you might get ran over or you might get shot. Gilded this age is…

Streetdog, in Dutch residents will have to ditch their cars for sustainable transport system

They already cry when you suggest eating a little bit less meat.

shotgunpulse,

Why would you care what anyone chooses to eat?

coyootje, in Dutch residents will have to ditch their cars for sustainable transport system

If only our public transport was affordable. We pay way more than other European countries (besides maybe Germany and the Scandinavian countries), especially when you consider how little distance you’re really travelling. As an example, to get from Eindhoven central station to Amsterdam central station you take 1 train, it takes you 1 hour and 20 minutes and you pay €22,70 for a one way ticket. If we’re looking at distance, this is about 120 km. This means that to get there and go back home you pay €45,40.

If you travel by yourself you can argue that it’s worth it to take the train there since parking + fuel isn’t that cheap here either. However, as soon as you have more than 1 person the car quickly becomes the cheaper option, even with parking included. As long as they don’t solve this issue I don’t see any success in their push to get people to use public transport. And I know the solution will probably be to make everything even more expensive but that’s not going to help in the long run either…

noyou,

A lot of people only tend to look at the fuel costs and maybe parking. However you’re forgetting a big part of the costs of driving which is that every km adds to the depreciation in the cars worth as well as requiring more maintenance.

It’s very easy to say just buying fuel is pretty cheap, but those costs are easily doubled if you look at the full costs. Check out www.anwb.nl/auto/autokosten for examples of how much variable costs/km actually are.

That said, this is for solo travelers… It’s true that when you add more people the costs become much lower / person if you go by car since the costs just get multiplied with public transport. Exactly why my next vacation with 4 people will still be by car…

However I’ve started taking the train for work now which still comes out a lot lower (40% discount outside of rush hours helps a lot too!)

coyootje,

Thanks for the link, I never had a look at that before. If I look at my car, the variable costs per km (without the fuel) are €0,15 per km. The fixed costs are only interesting if you don’t have a car and are looking at getting one, I have to pay those costs regardless of whether I leave it at home or not. That means that taking the car in my example above would add another €18 which does change things a little bit.

However, my main point was that people would flock to public transport if they were using the prices you sometimes see in other countries. For example, in Italy it costs me around €10 to get a return ticket from Florence to Pisa. The trains are slightly less fancy of course but they’re still very serviceable. If they could make it so you pay maybe €30 for a return ticket from Eindhoven to Amsterdam, it would make it a lot more enticing to take the train.

noyou,

No yeah agreed I wish they’d make it cheaper too.

sndrtj,

Depreciation and tax and insurance is mostly a sunk cost. Once you have a car, these are mostly irrelevant when comparing to public transport.

noyou,

If I were to drive my car to work I would double the amount I drive per year. If you don’t think this adds a lot of costs then I don’t know what to tell you. If you drive somewhere incidentally sure, it doesn’t really matter.

Buddahriffic,

You can save on insurance if you’re not commuting for work, too. I’m classified as a leisure driver since my work is remote.

noyou,

I actually do work remote but come in once a week… Which happens to be a long commute 🤷‍♂️

one2k,

In most countries the maintenance costs for highways are funded from the budget of the country, and thus split on the whole population. Those amounts are not included when someone makes a cost calculation for driving from A to B, unless one has to pay for a vignette for using the highway.
Also the cost of the car maintenance per kilometer is often not taken into account.

What is also annoying is that the budget allocated for the maintenance of the railway infrastructure is in most countries a lot less than that allocated for road infrastructure, further increasing the costs of train tickets (and thus the apparent cost of train travel) when compared to road travel.

huginn,

Sounds like you’ve got public transit costs on par with America. What’s a city bus ride cost?

As a New Yorker I’m deeply envious of your rail network. I’d kill for Amtrak to have that kind of coverage even at current prices.

mayonaise_met,

Last month I had to pay $14 for a one stop return ticket because we got on a Long Island train instead of the metro at Jamaica. Stupid prices.

iain,

The trains and subways are already very full. Just making things cheaper will not be enough. We need to massively invest in new lines and more frequent trains everywhere.

coyootje,

That’s because NS is trying to cheap out on things for some reason. You keep hearing about them removing trains from the schedule or shortening them.

lemann,

One of the train companies here are using a 3 coach commuter train for long intercity travel. It’s extremely unpleasant, people are always standing in the aisle and sitting on their suitcases by the doors.

I honestly have no idea why they can’t just… make the train longer?! The 30 min frequency is not an issue for me, although it isn’t great. The constant overcrowding on the other hand is horrible.

MrMakabar,
@MrMakabar@slrpnk.net avatar

Germany has monthly local public transport passes for 49€ for all local public transport including regional trains. So if you wanted to go that kind of distance, you propbaly buy that instead and use public transport for some trips in the city or for some other trip. For groups some states have state passes, which can be very cheap as well. Lower Saxony for example has the Niedersachsenticket, which is 25€ for the first person, another 6€ for the next and then 5€ for each of the next three people. That works for a day after 9am for all regional public transport in the state. So you could get everybody within a normal sized car on a similar distance for 46€.

In other words, I am sorry, but public transport in the Netherlands is more expensive then in Germany. At least it is on time thou.

LaLiLuLuCo,

That pass doesn’t cover trains you actually want to take between regions. It’s basically a subway pass equivalent.

Source: I still pay €25 to go to the nearest city because it’s a 1+ hour train ride and going local station to local station sucks. Yes I have been busted by the Deutche Bahn employee checking Tickets and thought the country wide pass worked.

timbuck2themoon,

Schwarzfahrer!

But no, that sucks. 49 pass seems a big upgrade but not ideal it doesn’t work inter-region.

MrMakabar,
@MrMakabar@slrpnk.net avatar

Ulm- München is abou 120km and it takes to 2:00 by regional train. Berlin - Magdeburg is also similar and at about 1:45. Both can be used using that pass.

LaLiLuLuCo, (edited )

Aalen to Stuttgart can’t. Stuttgart to München Can’t.

“using that pass” means not taking the direct train line. And stopping locally.

Don’t ask me, ask a DB employee telling me that pass isn’t valid for those connections.

Edit: here’s the carve out

Please note, however, that the Deutschland-Ticket is not valid on trains operated by DB Fernverkehr AG or other long-distance providers such as FlixTrain (e.g. IC, EC, ICE, as well as RE operated by DB Fernverkehr AG). DB Fernverkehr is currently in talks with the German state governments and authorities about exceptions on certain sections of line.

The Deutschland-Ticket is currently also permitted for long-distance trains (IC, EC, ICE) between Rostock Hbf and Stralsund Hbf.

coyootje,

Sounds like a nice concept, I wish we had something like that here. And you might think trains run on time but there’s actually quite a lot of delays recently. Because our network is relatively small and almost everything passes through Utrecht all it takes is 1 minor disruption somewhere around there and it’s mayhem.

olafurp,

Feel free to tell me if I’m wrong but I think it’s cheaper to subsidise public transport than to build and maintain car infrastructure. The way I see it is that every euro spent on making transport cheaper is 2 euros saved.

coyootje,

Oh I fully agree with you, it’s just that it doesn’t seem like they invest much in public transport. It feels like you hear more about lines closing down and capacity on the line going down than new lines being created.

BenadrylChunderHatch,

Bristol to London is about 1hr20m, ok it’s 185km so a bit longer, but the cost of a peak time return is £252.80. So it could be worse if your country decided to privatise the rail services, a natural monopoly, while keeping infrastructure and strike costs public.

blue_zephyr,

Oh they privatised it alright. It’s just that the government holds all stocks for the company. So they have to subsidize the losses while fat CEO pigs run off with the profits.

silvercove, in Dutch residents will have to ditch their cars for sustainable transport system

They already bike everywhere.

TWeaK,

Yeah I mean just look at the bike parking at the F1 the other week.

dr_robot,
@dr_robot@kbin.social avatar

I wish :( The city centers are very walkable and there's plenty of safe bicycle infrastructure, but cars are still very clearly the dominant mode of transport. Every weekend there's queues to the parking garages in every part of the city.

coyootje,

I like the way most city centers are set up but I think public transport coverage should be improved in most places before the government starts trying to push people out of their cars. My local municipality is trying the same thing and making the same mistake, they’re not improving public transport but they are trying to discourage people from coming by car. How is that supposed to work if you can’t even get there properly if you live in a part of town that either has no connection or it takes you 3 to 4 times as long as it would take you by car to take the bus?

benjiman, (edited ) in Fort Wayne police sergeant fined $35.50 for fatally striking pedestrian in crosswalk

For $35 it’d honestly be less insulting if they didn’t fine him at all.

sph,

Isn’t the fine for the traffic violation? The compensation from a civil lawsuit will follow I presume.

This makes sense in my opinion. Violating traffic rules should result in the same fine regardless of whether you hit someone or not (like drunk driving isn’t more OK just because you got lucky and didn’t happen to hit anyone). But if you do hit someone, expect to compensate all costs and damages to that person or family on top of the fine (that goes to the state).

That said, I wish traffic violations would be fined much more harshly. Also if you didn’t hit anyone during your reckless behaviour.

Haywire,

It does make sense. He should probably also have been charged with manslaughter or reckless endangerment.

lntl, in Just another day on a stroad

I try not to stick around if there a memorial near by. It’s like coming across a piles of bones when in the forest: not a good place to hangout.

bob_wiley, in Just another day on a stroad
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  • Player2,

    Pedestrian islands can be done well, they just need thoughtful design and separate controlled crossing systems

    N1cknamed,
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    Nah that’s nonsense, safety islands are an integral part of good road design. They slow down cars, make it easier to cross and break up the sea of asphalt. You’ll find them all over countries like the Netherlands.

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