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MyFairJulia, in ask patrick
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

This idea might be just crazy enough… TO GET US ALL KILLED!

zoe, in It’s time for Americans to embrace small cars

especially americans with small pp

Rilichu, in watchaout guys our free market is being thretened by communists on bikes and trains

Suspiciously Tram Shaped General Motors: All of these tram lines wouldn’t have disappeared if people liked them! Clearly people just hate public transport so buy our cars!

Nobilmantis, in watchaout guys our free market is being thretened by communists on bikes and trains
@Nobilmantis@feddit.it avatar

Interesting video this meme is inspired from.

rockSlayer,

Climate Town is legit one of my favorite channels. You might be able to get a few more climate memes by watching Our Changing Climate

SCB, in ask patrick

This is awesome because the point of this meme template is that Patrick has bad ideas, just like how divesting totally from cars in the US is a bad idea.

hairinmybellybutt,

no it means that even somebody as stupid as patrick understand that cars are stupid

insomniac_lemon, (edited ) in ask patrick
@insomniac_lemon@kbin.social avatar

I got an ebike and rode 130 miles (note my ebike is 250w and geared) on the trail that I live near. Haven't taken it out since last month because they started construction (resurfacing+replacing 2 bridges) that will last until next year.

I'm in a small town and the construction blocks both ways (meanwhile, the road alternative is often unshaded with grass/ditches on the sides, with at least one last-section I was on a few times before to get to another house having 40mph (though sparse) traffic). The trail made further journeys possible without complex navigation (and I'm not aware of many closer destinations due to the rurality).

Also my town has a railroad but no train-station (so no passenger rail) so I guess it's rather fitting. Although at least the trail is getting fixed (also the trail used to be a rail).

Nobilmantis,
@Nobilmantis@feddit.it avatar

This is a perfectly fitting example if you think what would instead happen if instead there were needed to be done construction on the road (they would do half lane at the time to allow traffic, or they would only work at night and reopen the road for the day, ft. Your tax money going to construction workers night shifts). As long as car drivers are seen as special requirements kids its always going to be made artificially easier to drive rather than commuting in other ways.

insomniac_lemon, (edited )
@insomniac_lemon@kbin.social avatar

Just to be clear, my point (aside from that being rural sucks for transportation+there was only 1 option in this situation) is that the problem is infrastructure and planning rather than the vehicles themselves.

EDIT: And yeah, I don't know why they didn't split the job up into at least 2. [A to B] and [B to C] rather than [A-C] (and more sections could've probably been done when it comes to the resurfacing). Seems as if this were a sudden change after delays too.

gowan,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

The USA has the most extensive rail system dedicated to freight in the world. That’s why so many towns have rails but no station.

amazing2, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Houses > Apartments

Cope and seethe all you want, but a house is a house is a house is a home. An apartment is a box in the sky, really just a big room. And you don’t get to pick your housemates. So you bought a great apartment and everything is lovely and then some asshole rents the unit next to you and starts having parties, getting his junkie friends visiting all the time. Sure you call the police but they have more important stuff to do.

A house is a house. Everyone should have a house. The left should abandon minimalist loser politics. Everyone gets a house!

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

There isnt enough land on the planet for everyone to own a house. And why even stop at a house. Everyone should owm multiple acres and homestead.

amazing2,

We can build houses vertically on large planes. Kind of like the hanging gardens.

Meowoem,

That’s not even close to true, and yes everyone should own an acre of land

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yes lets bulldoze all of nature so everyone can own a house. And yes it is true.

Meowoem,

‘yes it’s true’ except it’s objectively not, there’s about two and a half trillion acres in the United States and only 330 million people, there’s over a billion acres of actively productive arable land alone.

And no you don’t need to bulldozer nature, learn to live as part of it and be a positive impact on the worlds ecosystems. Low impact living and permaculture gardens with local sustainable food networks are far better than cities on every metric

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

There are many chunks of that they are unliveable. Also who said this discusion only involved the US? Do you think erasing farms from existence would some how be a good idea? Or are you in favor of people returning to agrocultural serfdom?

Meowoem,

The numbers are the same for the rest of the world, it’s a huge planet.

And yes monoculture industrial farms are awfull for the planet and bad by every other metric. Community produce exchanges and permaculture gardens is the best solution, automated tools for home growing should be a key focus of government r&d budgets.

agarorn,

You really overestimate the space we have. Here is an overview on land usage: ourworldindata.org/land-use

Try to calculate how many people we can have if everyone lives in a si gle family home.

Meowoem,

Your source says even just land currently used for grazing livestock is more than enough to house everyone, that’s without considering all the land already used for habitation and etc.

It really is a very big planet, I don’t know if you hate people and want them to suffer or what your deal is but you’re welcome to live in the smallest box you can find, don’t try and force the rest of us to though.

Pipoca,

An apartment is a box in the sky, really just a big room.

You realize that not every apartment is a studio in a skyscraper, right?

and then some asshole rents the unit next to you and starts having parties, getting his junkie friends visiting all the time

How is this different from an asshole moving into the house next door?

A house is a house. Everyone should have a house.

Houses are fine. The big problem with them is that most are in a boring sprawling soulless suburbia. The most important thing about where you live isn’t the physical structure itself but location, location, location.

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

I would say quality archetecture has way more to do with quality of life. I wouldnt say beach bums have a high quality of life and yet “location”.

amazing2,

Houses offer more sound insulation because of all the air that’s between the two houses. In an apartment, even a big one, if someone is doing renovations you’ll hear it because sound travel faster and better through solid matter.

As for sprawling suburbia, I am very against that. I’m for a more european village-like layout.

Fried_out_Kombi,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

The other big problem is most places in the US and Canada make it literally illegal to build anything but a detached, single-family house. If houses are really what people want, why are the alternatives literally illegal in most places?

PraiseTheSoup,

How is this different from an asshole moving into the house next door?

What a silly question. You don’t share walls, hallways, mailboxes, front doors, laundry machines, and parking lots with your neighbors when you live in a house. Honestly, have you ever even lived in an apartment?

Pipoca,

I’ve literally never had a problem sharing hallways, mailboxes, front doors, laundry machines and parking lots with people.

The only problem you tend to have with neighbors is noise. And you can easily get that in suburbia as well, particularly if they’re throwing noisy late night parties.

KevonLooney,

This is a troll account created 4 hours ago. Report and block.

Cryophilia,

Cope and seethe

It’s funny how every time we come up with a funny insult to describe you people, you just take that same exact phrase and use it against us without understanding what the hell it means.

UtMan1988, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Yeah, try living in an impoverished town, where it’s the housing on the right, spread out like the housing on the left. There are, like, no jobs (none that are actually sustainable long-term for living in this economy), but they just leveled a huge area of forest for more low-income housing (AKA Projects)

DivineJustice, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

If the buildings are actual size, then those apartments must be the size of a closet

mekwall,

New York apartments

menemen, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Make it 100 appartments in 3-4 times the space (in 4 smaller buildings with balconies, community gardens, shared spaces, picnic areas and so on) as a compromis and I am all in!

nadram,
@nadram@lemmy.world avatar

Agree. That style is much more interesting, a great in between

FireRetardant,

And lets add commercial/restaurants to the bottom floors of those buildings, and lay them out so that their central courtyard area is a pedestrianized plaza connecting all the residents and businesses and not a massive parking lot.

Skates, (edited ) in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

The US has about 10 million square kilometers

That’s 10 million x 1 million square meters (10^13 )

There will soon be (source: people like sex) 10 billion people on earth (10^10 )

This would give you 10^13 / 10^10 = 10^3 square meters (10700 square feet) of land for everyone on earth to live on. EVERY SINGLE PERSON. Not families, individual fucking people.

All of them contained within the US.

10700 square feet to build a house, have a small garden etc. Okay, not a lot. But that’s one country that could house everyone. An extreme example of course - you’re not gonna be able to use all that land, some of it is uninhabitable (red states lol). But just imagine it for a second, everyone living in one country would still be comfortable. And look how much is left of the rest of the world.

1000 square meters isn’t enough space? Make your house have 4 stories, who gives a shit, make your own wizard tower. In a relationship? That’s 21400 square feet for the couple. Have a couple of kids? 42800 square feet. That’s a decent enough house+yard for 4 people, especially if you add one or two floors.

The problem is not that there isn’t enough space. The problem is that some motherfuckers want and get more than their share of square feet. And then they charge you money to live in their share of land without owning it.

TheFonz,

Your premise is wrong. You need to start with total buildable area, not the boundary size. And when you evaluate for buildable area take into account critical areas such as wetlands, flood zones etc.

moody,

And keep in mind where the jobs are. Nobody wants to commute 2 hours to work.

agarorn,

And you need places for other things, such really unimportant ones, as growing food for example.

brlemworld,

You would need to travel like 5 miles to get anywhere at minimum… meaning you would need a car. And that is the opposite point of this entire sub

sznio,

Now connect all these people to water, sewage, roads and power.

MonkderZweite,

You forgot that there’s not only humans on earth.

Biodiversity is in free fall, not only because of climate.

kaj,

Yep. If you’re concerned with land use, start by going vegan!

MonkderZweite,

Almost Vegan is good enough for me.

AKADAP, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?
@AKADAP@lemmy.ml avatar

I spent seven years living in an apartment. I so enjoyed hearing the neighbors having sex, the thumping music they played, the smell of their cigarette smoke inside my apartment with all my windows closed, the random intrusions by management to repair something unrelated to my apartment, the random rent increases. Add this to the fact that I had no space for a work shop to make anything, and paying the equivalent of a mortgage with no equivalent home equity. Some people love apartment life, but it definitely was not for me.

notatoad,

the problem seems to be when people take “apartment life isn’t for me” and then go to the conclusion of “they shouldn’t build apartments for anybody”

you don’t have to live in one. just let people build them. only allowing single family homes doesn’t make single family homes more accessible for anybody, it just makes land more scarce and housing less affordable all around.

aidan,

This meme is advocating it as the only option

kier,

Of course. Everyone can live in an apartment if they wish. I will be the one with the house at a reasonable distance.

mind,

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  • DarthBueller,

    Condos don’t have random rent increases, but if there is a capital repair to be done to the building, and the Condo Association doesn’t have a sufficient reserve of condo owner dues to cover the cost, you better believe there’s going to be a sizeable special assessment you’ll have to pay as your share of the expense.

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  • DarthBueller,

    Yes, it does. As an attorney with experience in the matter, though, the scale of the expense can be outrageous if the COA wasn’t properly funding a reserve account, far greater than typical home surprise expenses. Worse yet if you have a few units in the condo that are bank-owned in a state that basically gives banks a free pass from dues on foreclosed/REO condo properties (Florida, looking at you).

    UrPartnerInCrime,

    You hate shitty apartments, not apartments.

    Nurse_Robot,

    I’ve never been able to afford anything else

    UrPartnerInCrime,

    I truly am sorry to hear that. But the unfortunately all to common practice of shitty land lords building shitty buildings for quick money should (hopefully) not be what we are aiming for in the future. Landlords were able to get away with far too much for far too long because everyone wasn’t connected and able to video everything. Hopefully, again, it changes now

    reev,

    I don’t have any of the problems mentioned by the first commenter and I live in a relatively cheap apartment. I don’t even hear the people in the other room in my own apartment if I have doors and windows closed. That’s better than some houses I’ve been to and lived in.

    DarthBueller,

    How old is your building? Is it “stick-built” (wood frame construction) or something else? Are the walls plaster or drywall? Older construction tends to have quieter walls (but louder floors, in my experience).

    reev,

    At the latest it’s from 1975 (the elevator is from '73 I think). Concrete walls would be my guess but I’m not 100% sure.

    Rodeo,

    If only there were good apartments available that people could afford.

    agarorn,

    If people can’t afford good apartments they can certainly not afford good single homes. So what is your point?

    XTornado,

    Some of the points are unrelated like yeah you got higher rent but that is if you rent, nothing to do with being apartment or not. The same with the mortgage comment, you can buy apartments you know.

    Then clearly those apartments were shit, on mine I usually don’t hear anything of the other neighbors except if I am next to the wall connecting to them and they really make super noise or in the bathroom due the vents. And the smoke thing yeah… That also points to shitty insulation and air can get in.

    The workshops thing yeah I get it. Technically you could setup something, of course small, if you have a spare room but based on the noise things you said probably not a good idea you might have gotten noise complaints.

    cubedsteaks,

    I so enjoyed hearing the neighbors having sex

    best thing to ever happen when I was a horny preteen. Neighbors moved in and boned EVERY night and that girl was LOUD as fuck. And holy shit was she cumming apparently lol

    My mom was soooo mad. And she couldn’t do anything about it cause the neighbors refused to acknowledge her!

    zoe, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

    consolidate housing, and transportation. ussr, circa 1940

    duffman, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

    Good luck to the apartment dwellers when the next wave of COVID hits.

    mrpants, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

    Apparently no one in the comments has seen people live outside of an American suburb.

    OldPain,

    There’s nothing out there. Absolute void.

    lud,

    Well there must be something out there.

    vldnl,

    I’ve heard that you fall off the edge of the world, if you go too far.

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