crispy_kilt,

EU != Europe

rab,

How is Poland in second? I call bullshit on this article

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, yes. We Germans are notorious “miesepetrig”.

In fact, we would be even more grumpy if there wasn’t Stuff to be grumpy about. Our highest compliment is “Für den Preis kann man nicht meckern.” (You can’t complain about it for that price).

NickwithaC,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

Upvoted for saving me a click!

Z4rK,

This is not about Europe, but EU. The title is garbage.

CAVOK,

You’d have to take that up with The Independent.

Z4rK,

The independent created the title here on Lemmy? You can edit it, you know.

CAVOK,

Or just use the “Copy suggested title” and move on. Not sure why you get triggered by a title.

Z4rK, (edited )

It’s wrong and misleading, and the "it’s Austria to save you a click” makes it worse, since you are inviting readers to digest this knowledge using only your misleading title and that sentence.

It’s rather amusing you can’t be bothered to fix your title when you know it is clearly wrong and you are willing to instead spend time defending your title in the comments.

There is enough poor content and misleading journalism on Reddit and elsewhere, I’m not sure why you want it here.

Now, since Austria is the happiest country in the EU it is quite possible also the happiest country in Europe. But we don’t have any source for that, so why defend it?

CAVOK,

I’m not defending the title. I hate clickbait as much as anyone, which is why I put Austria as a comment. If I had changed the headline someone else would have objected to that. I use the one the paper sets. Always have, always will.

But if you feel so strongly about it, make a post with a headline that you agree with. Nothing stopping you.

Or just accept that papers have bad headlines sometimes and move on.

Z4rK,

Luckily, there are easier ways to avoid poor content on Lemmy.

Hiro8811,

Aren’t EU country most wealthy in Europe?

Z4rK,

Non-EU countries in Europe that are not currently candidates or waiting to join, are Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Switzerland, and now also UK.

Depending on how you measure, several of them are considered wealthy countries.

Hiro8811,

I see… Wait UK is rejoining?

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Wasn’t that Denmark or Finland for many years in a row before?

Candelestine,

20 per cent of adults were “overwhelmed by anxiety”

This concerns me. To be struck down by anxiety in the first place, you have to give a fuck. Frankly, avoiding anxiety, even when you deserve it, is a big part of why not giving a fuck is so popular.

Anyways though, they’re people that care, just being bludgeoned by their information environment. Into paralysis, eventually, if it gets bad enough.

kpw,
Sibbo,

Anyone having a full list? This article is kinda free of information, and full of ads

pulsey,

This article is kinda free of information

I would say it’s … independent of information. Ba dum tss.

thedarkfly,
Pringles, (edited )

So for those who don’t want to give a click to this rag, here is the article published by the EU with links to the study: ec.europa.eu/eurostat/…/index.php?title=Quality_o…

Edit: updated the link as the one I posted was to the previous study from 5 years ago

Chev,

This article is about the old study from 2018, not the new one from 2023. 2 of the links bellow lead to an empty page.

zout,
Kusimulkku,

We finished second. Oh well, that’s pretty good too

smik,
@smik@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

We are? The world is really going downhill isn’t it?

HolyDiver,

how bad is it there? I’d imagine lots of European countries are doing worse

smik,
@smik@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s actually quite okay. Inflation is just high (above average), the prices of everyday life have been skyrocketing for months. Buying real estate has become impossible for most people. Our far-right party has been at the top of the polls for almost exactly a year. Nevertheless, it has to be said that the common Austrian is doing quite well. Public transport is relatively good (at least in the cities) an annual ticket for the whole of Austria costs only €1095 (price for a single state starts at €365). Nature is beautiful, food is good, education is free, social system works. So, could be worse.

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Buying real estate has become impossible for most people.

For people in cities yes.

education is free

I dont know of which standards we are comparing us with, but the current trend goes into a bad direction. Education is free and you get what you pay for.

And the thing about the social system is also a matter of time if the polls turn reality.

smik,
@smik@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Education is free and you get what you pay for.

I disagree. Take the technical university of Graz for instance. The work they accomplish regarding Cyber Security is quite amazing. Remember Meltdown and Spectre? Scientists from Graz were in key positions. Æpic Leak and SQUIP too.

What about Ferenc Krausz? He studied at the technical university in Vienna, and the team did some work in Vienna and they got the Nobel Prize this year.

PoisonedPrisonPanda,

Sure we have some smart people. Also Zeilinger from last year.

But first, will we be able to fill our programs with austrian smart people or are we more and more dependent on foreign students (I am not against foreign students, but I have experiences were 98% of program participants are foreign students)

Second, single geniuses will hardly be kept in austria. What matters for a nation is a broad distribution of (high) knowledge. Elementary and high schools are given more and more limited resources.

University is the same trend. Uni budgets are hardly pushing the inflation driven cost increas.

devfuuu,

How much for rent a simple apartment?

squaresinger,

Depends on the size and your patience. A single room apartment can be had for <€400 if you get lucky.

And if you have enough patience to get into the government housing program, you pay next to nothing. Buildings older than 1955 are also regulated and quite cheap.

You can also get cooperative housing flats (and even houses) with quite a low rent. We pay <€800 for about 80m².

But we did have some 10% increase over the last year.

And for all of these cheap options you need a lot of patience (between half a year and 5 years). If you need a flat right now, you can easily pay double of that on the free market.

(All these numbers are for the capital city Vienna. Prices in other places can be much lower. There are dieing villages in many rural areas, where houses are pretty affordable, because nobody wants them.)

noobdoomguy8658,
@noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de avatar

And the income for one? I’d imagine the taxes would tend to flat out a lot of differences, but I know it’s gonna depend on so many things that’s it’s best to omit it.

squaresinger,

The median income before tax is €55 731 per year and after tax and mandatory health insurance €38 623 per year. That’s per full-time worker, not per household.

Wikipedia tells me the per-person median income in the USA is $56 287.

noobdoomguy8658,
@noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de avatar

Thanks for the numbers! Seems pretty comfy, especially compared to a less developed country with greater disparity.

How’s your political climate these days? I know Germany is seeing AfD getting higher ratings for various reasons, but somehow never thought about its German-speaking neighbors.

squaresinger,

We are sadly ahead of Germany by 10-15 years. Our right wing equivalent (FPÖ) has been around since the country was re-founded after WW2.

They had their ultra-radical time about 25-30 years ago. Since then they have been in government (I think) three times as a minor partner. Every time there was some big corruption/financial scandal that kicked them back out of government and reduced their election result massively. But time and time again, people keep forgetting and they rise again. Currently they lead again in the polls.

Luckily, due to their incompetence, they never managed to do much harm, and due to the fact that they actually want to get into government, they are not as crazy radical as the AFD.

So, it’s not good, but it’s not as bad as Germany, Hungary or Italy.

There’s no talk about exiting the EU since Brexit, they don’t have the power to get rid of asylum (though they diverted funds from asylum-related issues), and by now they actually argue for “qualified, legal migrants”.

Other than that, the conservatives have been in government for ~20 years or so, with changing partners. That’s not exactly good, since they do have had a few scandals where they pushed a fair bit of money to the super rich in the country.

The social democrats elected a marxist as a leader, and since then they managed to overtake the conservatives in the polls.

The neoliberals get ~9% in the polls and they effectively never managed to do anything with that.

The greens are jumping rather wildly in the polls, and even though they only get 8-15% they currently hold the President and are in government.

Kusimulkku,

Maybe you’re fairly content with life, as was the case with us in Finland being the “happiest country on earth”.

where_am_i,

But you don’t worry about your glaciers melting. Or your corrupt government. You keep buying cheap Russian gas and being happy. Happiness is like ignorance, it’s a bliss. So, don’t worry, be happy.

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