Isn’t there a Playbook for how to destroy a country and its something like attack the pillars that democracy rests on.
Its something like judicial system, free press, education
If you look at what supports a Democratic system, every single one of them are targeted by either the right or the left. It’s kind of crazy that I saw people who predicted this 15 years ago and now its clear as day.
The pillar of democracy is participation. But I’m not sure anyone actually does that. At best they will participate in the representative hiring process, but even then they will ‘forget’ to actually talk to the person they hired afterwards, thinking the person is a mind reader or something.
What’s there to participate in if the country can’t secure Democratic elections or if the people cant trust the elections are true or if the courts can’t enforce the rules that keep the machine running or if the people lack any kind if shared knowledge that binds them so they are aware how the system runs.
Participation is important in Democratic countries but its not what makes democracy possible. Democracy is only possible when there are key things in place for it to rest on. Subversion is kicking those legs out from under it. Propaganda targets the civilians to do the kicking.
What’s there to participate in if the country can’t secure Democratic elections
A representative democracy makes things easier, saving you the trip to Ottawa, but if you don’t have trust in the representative then the people can make the trip themselves. You do not technically need a secure democratic election for a democracy to function. You do need people to exercise their democratic obligation, though.
But there is nothing to indicate that we manage that last bit, even with a representative system to make it easier. We, meaning a fraction of the population, just pick some dictatorial figurehead to make the decisions for us and then bitch and moan when they didn’t read our minds properly. That is technically enabled by democracy, but totally misses the spirit of democracy.
Our country is a community. To some capacity, every single one of us gives up a level of freedom to be a part of that community and help it prosper.
Positioning and simplifying “parental rights” as “what I say vs what the government says” is exactly the problem. It’s not about you versus the government. If this was actually a matter of parental rights, and not another thinly veiled “fuck Trudeau”, alt-right, anti-human rights conspiracy, this would be about your freedom to instill values that are important to you, your family and your community in your children first abd foremost, even when “simplified”. Being decidedly anti-government would be so far down the list that it should never make the short-hand version.
You do not have a right to teach your children to hate others, and fear expressing themselves, and fuck you for ever suggesting you should.
Well, lets say the government says genociding the native population is okay, like Canada used to. Parental rights would allow you to homeschool your kids.
Well, what are you trying to say? We all know what the definition of parental rights would be in a vacuum, I think the point of contention here is what could possibly be missing in actual Canadian society.
Well then ask that then. I swear you fucks can’t speak English properly.
For the answer you wanted but failed to ask for the first time is the government is keeping secrets from parents, and normalizing it. The parents have a right to know what the government knows about their kids. (Extreme circumustances notwithstanding, Im not getting into pedantics)
Legally, no they don’t. I guess you’re right, that’s a right parents don’t have right now.
And if you think they should have a right to information that would lead to abuse, to the point of forcing it out of individual teachers, you clearly don’t care about those children very much.
No one “failed to ask”. You’ve been asked multiple times, but refused to answer.
You still haven’t answered. What “secrets”?
If a child is more comfortable telling the government shit than you, that’s your own failing as a parent. You should make your children comfortable to tell you things.
That commenter doesn’t live in Canada. I recall the username from a post about the 2022 convoy where they weren’t aware they shut down part of Ottawa for weeks.
What right do you like to imagine you have over another human being? Choosing to believe you own a person just because you spit them out is some pretty dark shit.
If your kid doesn’t want to talk to you about their friends, their identity, or their inner life, that’s really on you. You have no right to force them, and if you feel you have to, that just means you’re a shitty person and a bad parent.
Better than the government owning them and keeping secrets from the parents. If one parent is bad, thats one family thats fucked. If the goverenment goes bad, say teaches that clubbing seals is okay, then all the kids are in a bad spot.
Parents right like any right come with the responsibility of raising your child correctly. Which I can assure you none of these parents have any intention of doing, just homeschooling and let them watch YouTube kids
I homeschool my kid (properly) for medical reasons, and I did not realize until I tried going to homeschool events how messed up the culture is. I’m in a purple state. It’s so hard to find anyone who homeschools who isn’t bigoted. There are a few, and I’m trying to cultivate relationships with them, but it’s difficult when they’re so few and far between. My county is liberal, but the city in the next county over would be a better fit if we could move or regularly travel an hour away. I don’t want my kid around these bigoted parents. He has good friends who are in public school, but my kid is too young to go to school with his multiple medical conditions (especially considering I’ve personally seen these schools neglect medically fragile kids), so he mostly only gets to see his friends on the weekends.
It is! One of my best friends who became very vocal against drag queens reading to children and trans kids’ rights has fallen into a deep rabbit hole of alt-right radical conspiracy bs on YouTube. He also started sharing toxic masculinity guru videos in our group chats and videos from Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson for example.
I tried to give him counter arguments with examples and other videos, but when searching for content on YouTube, I had difficulty finding anything because, most of the content when searching for certain keywords, was just videos of alt-right talking heads.
Social media companies like Facebook, Google, Twitter are pushing an alt-right conservative agenda and their conspiracies. It’s pretty appalling.
I don’t have any particular advice for dealing with someone going down the nutjob rabbit hole but you might want to watch this: youtu.be/4xGawJIseNY?si=3wSkuLQIsi6PnPTT - it does the best job that I’ve seen of breaking down how and why people fall for that garbage.
I don’t know off the top of my head if there’s an episode about parents rights but I bet Cody’s Showdy has something. I know there’s a dedicated Jordan Peterson video which is really quick and easy(it’s actually 3 hours long, but very good)
Edit: here’s their ep titled Who Are The Real Groomers which has some good stuff debunking anti trans rhetoric www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHva3JXPh0
Social media companies like Facebook, Google, Twitter are pushing an alt-right conservative agenda and their conspiracies. It’s pretty appalling.
Not only pushing it, but targeting it with algorithms that are explicitly designed to take advantage of vulnerable minds. It’s not only appalling, but unethical in every way.
I read something recently that simply getting the person to stop consuming the stuff works well. Obviously there’s a dopamine hit these things are giving (like most anything we watch) so that’s much easier said than done. I wonder if suggesting you do a challenge together - uninstall/restrict apps for 30 days - and put something on the line like a case of beer.
It’s difficult though, my mom and a brother both fell pretty hard into it (he even got into sovereign citizen stuff).
Shaun also has a notorious video discussing The Bell Curve, which is very, very good. The Bell Curve is a cornerstone of alt-right bullshit, since it’s one of the foundational books for “scientific race realism”: youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo?si=YoqG8dJd9g4U8B5h
This one’s less direct, but still actually relevant to toxic masculinity and conspiracy mindsets – Thought Slime discussing Gary Vee: youtu.be/OVE8J8dwJ5E?si=7h5wEQPsjhMjBd63
And getting a little more high level about things, here’s Innuendo Studios (the Alt-Right Playbook guy) discussing the origin of conservatism: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk&t=333s which is itself an appendix to his Alt-Right Playbook episode, Always a Bigger Fish
These should give you at least a starting point, and help you build up a video history that will direct YT’s recommendation engine away from the shit you’re trying to counter.
Hopefully between this and the above comment, we can get your friend on the positive masculinity to progressive pipeline instead of listening to bunch of shit heads.
There is a lot of content out there to challenge the manosphere and it’s grift.
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