You must pick a point in human history before the 1950s to be spend the rest of your life in. What era and place would you choose?
You would still have the same age, gender, personality, skin color, etc. and you would be able to speak at least one local language and would know basic information of the era and place. Your family, social standing, and such would be randomly picked.
If you’re going back to before technology got good anyway, might as well always travel to ancient greece (preferably Athens, as they’re a bit less violent).
Athens were involved in more conflicts than any other Greek city. If you want just peace in ancient Greece you should choose, paradoxically, Sparta (though as usual it depends on the class you would be born, but the same can be said of any place and time in history).
Sparta has much worse problems than war. Not to mention, even today some “spartans” don’t consider themselves to be greek. It’d be like going to an icecream shop and buying a single cookie.
Shitty ultraconservative social structure and mass serfdom but looking at their history they usually ended up worse after even victorious war - due to their shitty social structure rather than war itself. Though it still took them over a century and something along 5 lost wars in a row to end up in the dustbin of history.
even today some “spartans” don’t consider themselves to be greek
Today Sparta is a small town mostly unrelated to the ancient one except rough location, it was depopulated for centuries and refounded by king Otto in 1834. So it sounds weird they don’t consider themselves Greeks, why would they since they literally are. Anyway they don’t have much to do with ancient Spartans since ancient Sparta has been totally razed and its population sold into slavery by Visigoths, and later Slavs raided the area multiple times in VI and VII century, causing remaining population to flee.
For the first two groups, public displays of intelligence suffices as a way to get a more comfortable life. For the last, tough luck - better try traveling to the future instead.
Maybe ancient Athens? Just sit around eating grapes and talking about triangles and shit. And even if I get rng’d into slavery, I could draw the Pythagorean theorem in the dirt, and a passing scholar would be like “holy shit, come with me dude”
Lincoln’s booth in Ford’s theater on the night of the assassination right before it happens. Saving the president will immediately give me some credibility and influence, and it could improve reconstruction of the south to an extent that positively impacts modern America.
But as I said it’s a nitpick. Usually us historians keep to when language became involved. The rest would be prehistorical, but the distinction is not that clean cut (is it ever?).
The location, geography and placement is randomly picked?
Then like the other guy said December 31, 1949 11:59 pm
To be born before this time randomly anywhere in the world means that there is a high chance you’d be dropped into an impoverished hell hole with nothing, no chance and no help … God help you if you are female.
I have a whole rant on this topic, but the short version:
It’s dentists.
The gnarliest mountain man, who hunts bears with his bear hands, can be brought to his knees with a toothache. The toothache never sleeps, can’t be fought, and always eventually wins. Even basic dentistry is life saving - even another human with a pair of pliers and some moonshine - but I’d much rather have novocaine.
Dental problems a hundred years ago were not as problematic as we think. I’m Indigenous Canadian and my parents were born and raised in the bush and judging from family photos I’ve seen from a hundred years ago … most people had decent teeth. I have photos of my grandmothers parents who must have been in the 60s or 70s and they all had full teeth, probably not the best but they had obvious white teeth.
Cavities and tooth problems are a modern problem from wealth … we eat too much starch and sugar and generally just eat way too much of everything. Before the modern era, up to about the mid 1800s, the average person ate about five pounds of refined sugar a year - today the average person consumes about 100 lbs of sugar a year. … and those are the averages! Back a hundred years ago, you were wealthy if you could get sugar … most people just couldn’t afford to eat it … most people couldn’t afford to eat! And they ate more simple diets and less often.
The biggest fear I have about going back to the past is just getting a flesh wound, a hang nail or a scratch that could fester into an infection and either take a limb or kill me.
Dental problems aren't about them looking good; teeth used to kill. Dental disease used to be the 5th leading cause of death. Your great-grandparents aren't the best bar for dentistry in the past as modern dentistry began in the 18th century.
I think the key to ensuring a successful outcome for yourself would be to pick egalitarian societies, because then you have the highest chance of not spawning as enslaved or lowly.
So something like the late neolithic Samarra in ancient Mesopotamia, or maybe one of the American continent societies that had democracy.
Given that there were 2 world wars in the early 1900s and that I like tech in general I would also choose 12/31/1949. At least I might have a PC sometime in my lifetime and I'd probably live to use it and not be a corpse on some beach somewhere.
If I could speak the local language and know basic information about the era and place, I would join the Navajo people from whence 12.5% of my DNA originated because I identify with that the most, it’s strong in me. I feel like a fish out of water currently. I would be so happy with them. In fact I was recently in Arizona and I wanted so much to join the Navajos but I know it doesn’t work that way. You have to be born in there in order to assimilate.
And I’d choose a point in history long before they were conquered by Europeans. I don’t want to deal with any of that traumatic massacre bullshit.
I reckon if you could get there 10 years early you could probably prevent the entire thing. If you were capable of convincing some of the larger groups within the americas of the impending invasion, there were certainly people and resources enough to put together a small navy and start patrolling the eastern coast. Throw is some modern knowledge of firearms and metallurgy to help them develop some cannon, and Columbus never makes it to America.
Back in Europe people assume him lost at sea, and leave the atlantic untouched for another generation. With that much time to prepare, who knows how things play out.
@hungryphrog
That's a difficult one. On one hand if I went to the early/mid Victorian era, it'd be pretty easy to re-invent some shit, and I wouldn't have to worry about having to re-learn reading in the local language, but on the other hand it's... the Victorian era.
Antibiotics isn't as simple as simply getting a fungus to grow in a medium (such as penicillin in cantelope): there can be bad byproducts that also need to be removed, and scaling up the growth to significant quantities can be a big problem. What miiight be easier actually is using viruses to kill bacteria, but you need access to good quality meshes. And industrialization also isn't as easy as some books make it seem.
I think I'd take one for the team and go back to some ancient mostly egalitarian (but still some excess goods to support specialists) queer friendly society guaranteed to not immediately get wiped out, and get them started on the scientific method early, and hope to butterfly/forewarn the worst shit away.
As a gay man, maybe early empire Rome? Or even like early nomadic tribe times? Like, before there were institutions large enough to oppress people en masse. I'm sure there was plenty of gay sex happening as a nomadic hunter or trader.
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