mihor,
@mihor@lemmy.ml avatar

Airline ticket prices.

lemann,

This! What is up with tax and fees being double the base ticket prince?

mats,

Windows. You pay ~100€ just to give your personal data to MS and get a bloated OS that will use all of your resources. Even MacOS is a more fair deal than this.

fubo,

And then it shows you ads, too!

original_reader,

I agree that it’s not great that telemetry is shared, but to say that you buy it “just” to share your data is an exaggeration. I am sure you do useful things with it.

That said, yes, it is bloated and I wish you could really turn off all telemetry. Am totally with you on that.

spagnod,

Linux distros: veggie

ferralcat,

You can download windows (direct from Ms) for free now. Does that make it better?

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

But then you can’t change the wallpaper! THE WALLPAPER!

pirrrrrrrr,

Wait… You paid for Windows? And it was version 8 or newer?

gens,

Last time i paid for windows was 98se. And xp, but that was a blatant illegal copy (from a legit store, with new laptop). Back then it was far too expensive, but still worth it compared to win1x now.

The_Mixer_Dude,

I’ve owned probably 45 computers or more in my life and I’ve never paid Microsoft for shit. Saying Windows is a scam is rather stupid, you can literally disable telemetry and it’s still the best OS available right now regardless of your emotions.

finestnothing,

What makes it the best os? Even without telemetry, it has a huge memory and CPU footprint from a bunch of bloat services running, restricts/blocks functionality even from admin users, and is very inflexible. The only thing that kept me having a windows partition was gaming - but now a vast majority of games (and other software without official Linux support) can be played with wine/proton. My PC idles at 0%-2% CPU usage and about 6 GB of ram, and basically all of that ram comes from me self hosting a good number of docker containers. And even that aside, windows collects data from a lot more than just the telemetry option

The_Mixer_Dude,

Memory you aren’t using is wasted memory. You should really look into understanding super fetch and the reason Windows “wastes” memory, reality is it’s sitting files that have common usage in memory so it isn’t constantly pulling them from drives. I mean just the fact that people are running Windows 11 smoothly on Chromebooks with 32gb of emmc 1.5ghz processors and 2gb of memory stands to make your entire statement pretty silly.

jemorgan,

Of the three major desktop operating systems, windows is by far the worst.

The only advantage windows has is that Microsoft’s monopolistic practices in the 90s and 00s made it the de-facto OS for business to furnish employees with, which resulted in it still having better 3rd party software support than the alternatives.

As an OS, it’s hard to use, doesn’t follow logical convention’s, is super opinionated about how users should interact with it, and is missing basic usability features that have been in every other modern OS for 10+ years. It’s awesome as a video game console, barely useable as an adobe or autodesk machine, but sucks as a general purpose OS.

corsicanguppy,

hard to use, doesn’t follow logical convention’s, is super opinionated about how users should interact with it, and is missing basic usability features that have been in every other modern OS for 10+ years

Now do iOS and macOS!

corm,

What’s wrong with mac OS? It’s been working for my developer laptops without any big issues for a decade.

Sure I prefer linux, but OSX is infinitely better than dealing with the BS I had to put up with when I worked in a .NET shop.

A functional terminal, docker works well with virtual networks, and brew exists.

jemorgan,

Sure.

MacOS is an excellent workspace operating system, largely due to its near-POSIX compliance and the fact that it has access to the enormous body of tools developed for UNIX-like OSs. For development work in particular, it can use the same free and open source software, configured in the same way, that Linux uses. Aside from the DE, a developer could swap between Linux and MacOS and barely realize it. Everything from Node, to Clang, to openJDK, to Rust, along with endless ecosystems of tooling, is installable in a consistent way that matches the bulk of online documentation. This is largely in contrast to Windows, where every piece of the puzzle will have a number of gotchas and footguns, especially when dealing with having multiple environments installed.

From a design perspective, MacOS is opinionated, but feels like it’s put together by experts in UX. Its high usability is at least partially due to its simplicity and consistency, which in my opinion are hallmarks of well-designed software. MacOS also provides enough access through the Accessibility API to largely rebuild the WM, so those who don’t like the defaults have options.

The most frequent complaint that I hear about MacOS is that x feature doesn’t work like it does in windows, even though the way that x feature works in windows is steaming hot garbage. Someone who’s used to Windows would probably need a few hours/days to become as fluent with MacOS, depending on their computer literacy.

People also complain about the fact that MacOS leverages a lot of FOSS software, while keeping their software closed-source and proprietary. I agree with this criticism, but I don’t think it has anything to do with how usable MacOS is.

I’m not going to start a flame war about mobile OSs because I don’t use a mobile OS as my primary productivity device (and neither should you, but I’m not your mom). The differences between mobile OSs are much smaller, and are virtually all subjective.

You’re welcome.

The_Mixer_Dude,

Everything you just said is just… So incorrect. I don’t even know where to begin. With just saying it’s difficult to use, like what the hell are you on? How disillusioned are you that you actually feel that is a true statement?? If anything is the only OS using logical conventions, just in the simple concept of it being the most well known and common is in the world for desktop use.

I don’t even know how to start with the basic usability functions that you claim are missing but as a long time Linux user I’m very interested to see what examples you give because I’m sure everyone is interested.

jemorgan,

Having the highest market share doesn’t mean that windows uses logical conventions, it just means that lots of people are accustomed to the conventions that it uses. The vast majority of professionals that I’ve interacted with strongly dislike having to work on a windows machine once they’ve been exposed to anything else.

Off of the top of my head, the illogical conventions that Windows uses are: storing application and OS settings together in an opaque and dangerous, globally-editable database (the registry), obfuscating the way that disks are mounted to the file system, using /cr/lf for new lines, using a backslash for directory mappings, not having anything close to a POSIX compatible scripting language, the stranglehold that “wizards” have on the OS at every level, etc. ad nausium. Most of these issues are due to Microsoft deciding to reinvent the wheel instead of conforming to existing conventions. Some of the differences are only annoying because they pick the exact opposite convention that everyone else uses (path separators, line endings), and some of them are annoying because they’re an objectively worse solution than what exists everywhere else (the registry, installation/uninstallation via wizards spawned by a settings menu).

For basic usability functions, see the lack of functional multi-desktop support 20 years after it became mainstream elsewhere. There is actually no way to switch one monitor to a 2nd workspace without switching every monitor, which makes the feature worse than useless for any serious work. In addition to that, window management in general is completely barebones. Multitasking requires you to either click on icons every time you want to switch a window, or cycle through all of your open windows with alt-tab. The file manager is kludgy and full of opinionated defaults that mysteriously only serve to make it worse at just showing files. The stock terminal emulator is something out of 1995, the new one that can be optionally enabled as a feature is better, but it still exposes a pair of painful options for shells. With WSL, the windows terminal suddenly becomes pretty useful, but having to use a Linux abstraction layer just serves to support the point that windows sucks.

I could go on and on all day, I’m a SWE with a decade of experience using Linux, 3 decades using Windows, and a few years on Mac here and there. I love my windows machine at home… as a gaming console. Having to do serious work in windows is agonizing.

The_Mixer_Dude,

Lol I guess you haven’t used Windows in a very very long time

jemorgan,

I use windows for ~10 hours per day, 5 or 6 days per week because my team is currently maintaining a legacy .NET framework codebase. I’m sure there are people on earth who use windows more than I do, but I think it’s extremely unlikely that you’re one of them.

BubblyMango,

You cant disable all telemetry for “security reasons”.

corsicanguppy,

If it was included in something, that’s still a purchase.

blindsight,

If you build your own computer, it’s not included in anything. Pretty easy to do, too.

The_Mixer_Dude,

And if it wasn’t?

mobyduck648,
@mobyduck648@beehaw.org avatar

Microsoft literally used to make it part of their OEM agreement that manufacturers couldn’t bundle their machines with anything but Windows, you’ve paid for it in the form of reduced competition in the OS market.

bitMasque,

Daily life

crime,

Credit scores. It goes up when you have more debt and goes down when you pay your debt off, but it goes down if you ask for a loan and it goes down if you even try to check what it is.

Absolute nonsense.

CoderKat,

It doesn’t usually go down when you pay debt off. In fact, paying off all your credit card debt every single month is a great strategy that will get you a good credit score. And is ideal, because that way you avoid the high interest rates that credit cards have.

It also doesn’t go down if you check it with sites like Credit Karma. I believe what you’re thinking of is hard checks, which loan issuers use and they can slightly ding your score as they represent you about to get a new line of credit. Though honestly that part is pretty sketchy, since it applies even if you don’t get a new loan.

cynetri,
@cynetri@midwest.social avatar

It does go down if you pay things off early, though

Firemyth,

What? Since when?

crime,

1989

Firemyth,

Oh man- here I am having paid off every debt I’ve had early and never being punished for it. Guess your response of 1989 just really showed me.

ChronosWing,

It most certainly does not.

crime,

I’ve got dings on my credit report for no debt lol. I get dings for not using enough of my credit limit and also for using too much. It’s a stupid system that exists to measure how easily banks can fleece you.

phillaholic,

It’s not about paying it off, it’s about closing an account. When you pay a loan off the account closes, and that’s where you get dinged. Paying off a credit card isn’t a problem, because the account is still active.

Scrithwire,

Yes that’s not my experience. It’s a measure of how responsibly you utilize your debt. They like to see you use your debt. But they like to see you pay it off. They don’t like for you to sit at a high percentage of debt. And they like to see that you’ve used your debt responsibly for an extended period of time

crime,

They want you in debt so you’re forced to work, and so that they can grift interest money off you. According to their system it’s irresponsible to not have debt, and it’s also irresponsible to ask what their magic number is.

phillaholic,

When you pay a loan off your score will go down because an account is closed. It’s short term though. Not paying a debt will tank the score.

Waraugh,

This person is passionately against something they have convinced themselves they fully understand without having any real idea wtf they are talking about. Reading his comments is reminiscent of my mother arguing to me that cost of living isn’t real, such pointless garbage and she gets upset unless you just nod your head and act enlightened somehow. Reading his comments, he’s convinced himself of how the credit rating system is bad, likely reinforced by misunderstood anecdotal evidence and other ignorant people sharing their anecdotal misunderstood experiences, or even made up hogwash. So much so that he digs his heels in and refuses to learn anything that would even allow him to form a valid critique against the credit rating system, preferring instead to be convinced he is infallible and enlightened while loudly spewing confidently incorrect bullshit.

DBVegas,
@DBVegas@hexbear.net avatar

It’s so stupid, in a state with a communist vanguard party a social credit system is unironically better since it marks a step towards a classless moneyless society that the American credit score system is antithetical towards.

Texas_Hangover,

What happens if you piss off the government?

ZodiacSF1969,

Our credit system must work differently here in Australia, because the only thing I think brings it down is not paying, defaulting, bankruptcy, etc. I have an excellent credit rating and I’ve had debts for years.

sparky,
@sparky@lemmy.federate.cc avatar

Health insurance.

MrMonkey,

Actual health insurance is literally illegal in the USA. It’s all some sort of partially pre-paid health subscription crap that you get punished for not buying. Every time the government steps in the help they make it worse, even as far back as WW2 with “salary caps” leading to extra non-monetary incentives, like medical insurance, company car, etc. Then the government gives business tax breaks to provide insurance making it more expensive for an individual to buy so now your health is tied to your work. Then they help by… etc. etc. etc.

soviettaters,

Asking this question every single week.

Lemmygradwontallowme,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Commoditized bottled water.

MoonRaven,
@MoonRaven@feddit.nl avatar

Water should be safe to drink from taps. Holy shit. I have a 1 liter bottle, I fill it a couple of times a day at home and it’s great…

isolatedscotch,

if you haven’t already, consider getting a reusable bottle not made of plastic, over time it degrades significantly and sheds a lot more microplastics in the water

cloudy1999,

Goodness, that needs to stop. I’ll concede it’s a life saving tool during natural disasters or in places where tap water is unavailable, but the rest of the time it’s a symbol of waste and ignorance. On my walks I see at least one half full bottle of water every day on the ground. Some dummy paid real money for it, then couldn’t be bothered to even dispose of it properly.

BilboBargains,

British royal family.

Religions that collect money from adherents.

Web 2.0 data harvesting.

7heo,

That would be web 3.0 now.

xylltch,

The problem is that we keep jumping up to new major versions where of course there’s all kinds of regressions. We really just need to revert to Web 2.7.3 rev4, now that was a polished release.

7heo,

Marketing just threatened to lower your salary by 27.34% and cancel your bonuses.

Commiejones,
@Commiejones@hexbear.net avatar

In 2021 I would have said Crypto. Now everyone but the most dense people see it for the scam it is.

zabadoh,

Crypto as an investment, and NFT for digital art, sure it’s a scam.

Crypto as an extralegal means of moving money is totally useful.

7heo,

Yep, I was gonna say, if you use it for what it designed and not for the abuse a handful of wannabe wallstreet guys decided to parade about for years, it’s very useful…

Commiejones,
@Commiejones@hexbear.net avatar

Crypto as an extralegal means of moving money is totally useful.

How is another way for billionaires to avoid paying taxes not a scam?

raven,

Zabadoh is talking about drugs I’m pretty sure

Commiejones,
@Commiejones@hexbear.net avatar

I bet more crypto gets used for trading CSAM than for drugs.

zabadoh,

It’s true that crypto is commonly used in online drug transactions, but there are other justifiable uses, such as moving money out of countries with repressive regimes like China and Russia.

Also paying for certain genres of porn that major credit card banks like Visa and MasterCard have somewhat arbitrarily designated as unacceptable, such as certain types of BDSM e.g. consensual nonconsensual, anything that shows blood, kinky hypnosis and mind control, vampires, etc.

Of course obvious child porn should be banned by credit card companies, so some regulation is needed. But I 'm not sure that the government delegating responsibility for regulation to the credit card banks is the best way to do it. The rules and enforcement is completely arbitrary and cannot be appealed.

AntiOutsideAktion,
@AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net avatar

No it isn’t. Every single person has a complete record of every transaction. It’s the opposite of secure. It’s only useful insofar as intelligence agencies want tall grass to hide in for their own illegal transactions. Same as .onion btw

BA834024112,

Don’t confuse crypto for Bitcoin

polskilumalo,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Monero is the only torelable crypto currency for communists before revolution. After it is a liability.

terminhell,

Insurance (am American)

exohuman,
@exohuman@programming.dev avatar

Totally. Make a claim and suddenly your rates skyrocket. I’m trying to figure out what I have been paying for.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

In some ways, Australia is actually worse than America. Not like, in terms of how “good” the overall system is. We’ve got you way beat there. But in terms of it being “a scam”.

We have a really good public healthcare system called Medicare. But, if you’re over 30, you’re required to take out private health insurance anyway, or you pay the “Medicare Levy Surcharge” if you have above certain thresholds of income. This levy is not marginal, so you could theoretically take home less pay after getting a pay raise if it puts you over the next threshold.

Additionally, if you later do sign up for private health insurance, you pay an addition levy of 2% on top of the normal premiums for every year you waited. So sign up at 40 and you pay 20% more for insurance than you otherwise would have.

All this means more funding being funneled into the private health sector, taking resources away from the public system, increasing wait times for non-urgent procedures—except for those willing and able to pay to cut the queue. If that’s not a scam, I don’t know what is.

Noodle07,

WTF? This makes no sense whatsoever

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Welcome to the Australian Government!

Their logic is “it gets people out of the public system to take burden out of the public system”. Neglecting completely the economies of scale that would be involved if the public system got all of that funding.

victoitor,

“Welcome to capitalism!”

FTFY

AngryCommieKender,

These guys have been ridiculing the AU government for years about everything

youtu.be/kecnSHmznic

Faceman2K23,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

conservative governments in Australia have been trying to kill off medicare and other public services for a long time. the problem is our progressive governments have refused to push back hard enough as it always results in election losses.

Basically the people are stupid, the media influences them, and the government is too spineless to take the risk needed to fix things.

tamagotchicowboy,

Rent

Peddlephile,

Private health insurance.

Banks.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

capitalism

ImmortanStalin,
yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

🤣

HerbalGamer,

🏆 🏆 🏆

We have a winner!

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ghost_of_faso2,
@ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml avatar

11 landlords found this post

SmokinStalin,
@SmokinStalin@hexbear.net avatar

Wait are there downbeats on it? We don’t have downbeats anymore so we can’t see them

candyman337,

Credit scores

NBJack,

This is the real answer to this question. Not just an invention to unfairly evaluate folks (and charge them originally to see it!), but nothing more than a “how much we can fleece you for” score that has become so widely embraced you can’t ignore it.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Does this even exist outside of the US?

lemann,

110%. Same companies keeping record too, like Experian

Trainguyrom,

Credit scores are at least significantly better than the system that preceded them. On the other hand the system that preceded credit scores was so broken and so racist that pretty much anything would be a significant amount of progress in the right direction

flatpandisk,

Resort fees, especially in Las Vegas.

SendMePhotos,

Never been to Vegas. What do you mean?

corsicanguppy,

One pays resort fees at resorts when booking a room only, outside the normal packages. It’s to pay for and use the other perqs like the free booze, the free food, the pool, the tennis courts, and for access onto the private beach. .

Vegas offers none of these things, yet demands a resort fee because, essentially, fuck you.

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