gruvn,

Paying for cellular data, in advance, regardless of whether or not you use it with no possibility of refunding any you didn’t use.

Karlos_Cantana,
@Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz avatar

I didn’t know any companies still did that. I pay $25/month for unlimited and it’s only gone down over the years. I started paying $45/month about 15 years ago. I know of some companies that are cheaper, but I haven’t had any issues, so I haven’t bothered to switch.

Piecemakers3Dprints,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

Religion. Whole cloth.

original_ish_name,

Found the atheist

Sure a lot of people use religion as a business but just because some people take advantage of it doesn’t make it a cult. The real scammers are the people who take adcantage of it and those people deserve the death penalty

riskable,
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

Religions promise anything and everything but don’t actually provide anything in return for time or money invested. It’s the very definition of a scam.

It’s no different than supplement scams or homeopathic pills.

nasi_goreng,

You can just follow the religion for only positive teaching.

In fact, there are religions that basically a collective of wisdom and “how to,” without promising anything than pragmatic value.

hglman,

If the wisdoms are wrong or sub optimal, but the followers treat them as dogmatic then its an issue.

VitoCorleone,

Organized religion.

Nothing comes even remotely close.

original_reader,

The way mobile providers charge. The likes of Vodafone, any random Telecom, T-Mobile and so forth. It’s a huge scam, bordering theft sometimes. Want samples? Here we go:

“Your credit expires in x days. Better recharge now to not lose it!” (Banks should start doing this /s)

“Your credit has expired. Better give us more money within our generous deadline, or else we are forced to delete your number. We love you.”

“Your data has expired. We now charge you a horrendous amount every minute, because we are too greedy to warn you in time. For technical reasons we also cannot stop you from using data after your allowance has been used. Fortunately you still have credit, huh?”

“Your data expires today. We don’t insult your intelligence by telling you when. Surely you remember when you bought the package, right? It’s not hard to count 24 hours. We also do not send any SMS anymore to save the environment.”

“Your data has expired. You need data to buy a new bundle. Our app charges data for our convenience.”

“Social media data only works for WhatsApp, but not for Signal. But who uses Signal anyways?”

“Use our customer friendly support chat. Conveniently it uses data. ‘Hello, I am your smart bot speaking. How can I help you? I might understand you if you type one of the three questions I have been programmed to answer. Do you want to know more about our products?’”

Edit: added point 2, minor corrections for clarity

JWBananas,
@JWBananas@startrek.website avatar

Is this some kind of prepaid nightmare? I’m across the pond, and what you’re describing sounds vaguely familiar. But it was almost half a lifetime ago that I turned 18 and switched to unlimited postpaid.

psud,

They all copy the “best” ideas from their international arms and their competitors

It’s a tight run race to the bottom

raven,

Imagine the array of mobile internet of shit devices we would have if phone companies had a reasonable payment plan based on only the data you actually use.

MJBrune,

I’ve never prepaid my phone by credit. Anytime I prepaid a phone it was an unlimited monthly deal. Eventually I switched to post pay and it’s about the same. Either way it’s fairly cheap for me.

hitwright,

Intelectual property and patents. (Copying ideas and modifing them was always a part on how societies advances.)

Non disclosure agreements. (Allows company to monopolize on your knowledge and force you out of the industry altogether)

Lottery (a way to extract money from the poorest/dumbest members of the society)

Commiunism,

The notion that capitalism is the end-all be-all of how society functions/works.

TyrionsNose,

That we are not paid for our browsing data, app data, etc.

Clipper152,

Individualism.

Nachorella,

I thought individualism and collectivism were more like cultural traits than a specific thing you could call a scam.

danisth,

I agree that it’s a bit of a stretch. What I think they’re getting at is that individualism as it’s pushed by imperialist media creates the toxic environment that fosters the cultural traits that you’re referring to.

Moghul,

No only that, but it’s entirely possible to be an individual who can participate successfully in a collective. They’re not mutually exclusive or contradictory things. You can have goals and aspirations that focus exclusively on you without negatively affecting your contributions and interactions within a group. Life is nuanced, things aren’t as black and white as people often seem to think.

toomanyjoints69,

Just be yourself.

Who cares about the consequences.

God i hate that attitude.

Once you realize you arent special you will be more humble and willing to help all the others that are just like you. Collectivism leads to a peaceful mind for you the individual.

GnuLinuxDude,
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

Private health insurance is the biggest fucking scam ever. The private insurance companies benefit by getting the aggregate healthiest population into their plans (working adults). The most likely to be expensive people, i.e. old people (on medicare) or poor people (on medicaid, or not even on an insurance plan) are on government, tax payer insurance plans. There is literally no reason except for corporate profiteering that Medicare should not be expanded to cover all people.

Also all those conversations, especially in the 2020 election period, were totally bullshit. You say something like M4A will cost 44 trillion dollars or whatever, which sounds like an insane amount of money. What is often left out of the discussion is that estimated cost was 1) over 10 years and 2) has to be weighed against the current costs we already pay for insurance. So the deal was very simple: the overall costs would go down because the overall spending would be less, and at the same time millions of people without coverage would be covered, and at the same time you don’t have to contemplate stupid bullshit like in network, out of network providers. Or ever again talk to your insurance about why something is or isn’t covered. Boils my blood when I think too much about this.

Not even gonna weigh in on things like how medicare can’t negotiate prescription drug prices (nytimes.com/…/medicare-drug-price-negotiations-la…), or how dental, vision, and hearing are treated separately from general healthcare, or how med school is prohibitively expensive, or how the residents after med school are overworked because the guy who institutionalize that practice was literally a cokehead. Those are all just bonus topics. The point is we are getting fleeced.

EyesEyesBaby,

Welcome to the US

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Private insurance (for the average person) in general is dumb. We have a collective need to insure various things against disaster, and realistically the federal government shells out huge amounts for most disasters anyways (after the so called insurance companies go bankrupt).

So why the heck are we paying a premium for all of the overhead of the insurance companies?! It’s this massive inefficient system that doesn’t work, while the “government as insurance” system works great, and doesn’t require nearly as much overhead. There’s no room for private sector insurance to inovate, because there’s nothing to inovate on; IMO, the private insurance industry contributes nothing of value to society except jobs that it pays for by forcing everyone to engage with it.

The insurance industry in general is betting you’ll be fine, and you’re betting “maybe I won’t.” It’s extra bad for medicine because they stick their head even into the small stuff, not just “I need a 10,000 unexpected hospital bill covered.”

PlanetOfOrd,

Probably gonna anger both sides here, but I see both private insurance and single-payer healthcare as equally-evil scams. Why not focus on driving down costs of healthcare (i.e. EVERYTHING) so that you throw a couple bucks at the receptionist to cover your surgery then check to see if you have enough for a post-surgery soda?

GnuLinuxDude,
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

One of the objectives of single-payer is to drive down the costs of healthcare by eliminating the overhead of an insurance bureaucracy. There are other aspects that can be considered like nationalizing hospitals to eliminate private run, for-profit hospitals. People like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCA_Healthcare are just as responsible for the high per-capita costs of healthcare we pay as are the insurance companies. And I agree with you, they shouldn’t be getting a guaranteed government handout.

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Loan interest.

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Specifically, compounding interest. I have no problem paying something extra back if I need to borrow a sum of money, but it should be a flat, fixed fee calculated as a percentage of the amount borrowed, up front.

Compounding interest is bullshit.

Michal,

If it’s a flat fee then it’d likely be higher. If it’s compounding interest, it will automatically include any late fees if you pay on time.

Thorny_Thicket,

I quite like compounding interests but the difference is that I’m on the receiving end (index funds)

dartos,

Income tax

DrunkenPirate,

High tax on humans, low tax on companies and property

MJBrune,

That’s the scam we live in now. We need high tax on corporations. Low Income tax on individuals under 250k. High income tax on everyone else.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I used to think the same thing but it’s not really a scam. It’s a way to allow low income people to pay less to the government in taxes because they have less to give.

When you move things over to sales tax, high income folks don’t end up paying as much as they could because they don’t spend the money as aggressively, and low income folks can’t afford the bare minimum so you have to either further subsidize them (so you took their money to give back to them?) or deal with the ensuing homeless problem/never ending poverty cycle.

dartos,

I mean if you want to be all sensible about it, sure.

It’s just a tool. The real scam is that the 1% pay such a low share of their actual income (including capital gains)

lazylion_ca,

Mortgages needing to be renewed every 5 years so that banks can jack the the interest rate. Cap residential mortgages at 25 years max and 2% interest for the duration.

Ilovethebomb,

Why would any institution give you a mortgage on those terms?

DrunkenPirate,

Because it doesn’t matter the company. A bank creates money if you apply for credit. It just have to have a fraction - say 3% - real money to store at a central bank account. Then they literally type the numbers on your account. Money created!

So, for a bank, it doesn’t matter if you apply for 5.10.20 years. They get the interests anyway. May be there is some weird financial acrobatic behind the 5 years target. However, here in Germany it’s pretty common to get a 20 years credit.

Ilovethebomb,

The hell are you on about, reserve banks can create money, but a retail bank borrows it from someone else and loans it to you.

And if that “somewhere else” can get a better deal elsewhere, they won’t loan it to the bank in the first place.

Changetheview,

Many people lock in interest rates for the life of the loan. Most often 30 years for mortgage loans. You don’t have to renew a mortgage’s interest rate unless you get an adjustable rate one.

This is the main reason why mortgage applications are down significantly right now. People with super low interest rates don’t want to move because they’d have to get a new loan to do so, and interest rates are much higher now. If they stay and they have a fixed-rate loan, nothing changes.

soyagi,

Printers and printer ink

ThirdWorldOrder,

Get yourself a Brother printer and this annoyance will be cast away forever

Diarrhea_Eruptions,

I have a brother dcn-7065 from about 2012 maybe. Still going strong. No issues.

Scrollone,

I agree. Brother printer is the best purchase I made in a long time. They’re reliable and printing with laser is so cheap

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I love the fact that they just print too! No more “inkjet cleaning test prints”, I’ve saved so much time, money, and frustrating switching to a brother black and white laser printer… For the average (?) “I just need to print official documents” kind of person, it’s a great buy.

Michal,

Laser printers are an option

Wilshire,
@Wilshire@lemmy.world avatar

Stores and restaurants increasing their base prices to promote discounts from data harvesting apps.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

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