MisterFrog,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

In what world does this make any sense, why not just buy a USB a to C cable? It would function exactly the same as getting an Adapter for the lightning… no? When could this possibly be needed?

natebluehooves,

Lightning peripherals. They are rare, but do exist.

This is likely just a stopgap solution for a niche audience.

anon_8675309,

Especially when it only costs a quarter or two to make.

mr_tyler_durden,

This sub sucks. No really, it’s be great if we could actually have conversations about Apple products and decisions instead of it being full of people that just want to dunk on Apple with uninformed and tired takes.

There is a legit way we can talk about the dongle, how it’s existence makes perfect sense, and how there are cheaper/better alternatives on the market. Instead we have “Hur hur hur, Apple expensive, what do you expect? Are you new?”. It’s not intelligent, it’s not right, and it completely ignores so many realities.

tst123,
@tst123@lemmy.world avatar

Do you work for Apple? 🤣

atyaz,

I’m as big a fan of nuance as the next guy, but yeah I mean that’s pretty expensive for a lightning to usb dongle, let’s be honest.

BobaFuttbucker,

Keep in mind this is the same amount their adapters have been forever. They’re almost always in the $19-39 range.

When you think about it, adapters are some of the few inflation-free things Apple has sold.

ohlaph,

Definitely overpriced.

atrielienz, (edited )

Google sells a $15 USB C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter, and a $45 USB C to HDMI adapter. A $20 USB C to USB A cable. And a $20 USB C to USB C. This is standard market prices for big tech companies. I’m sure in a few weeks Anker or Aukey or whoever will have one for cheaper.

isVeryLoud,

The difference is, Google’s cables are actually good compared to Apple.

Samsung also sells a $15 USB C to 3.5mm dongle.

sebinspace,

M8 it’s never about quality. It’s about the brand.

isVeryLoud,

It’s all extremely expensive for what it is compared to Anker / Aukey / UGREEN etc., but at least google’s cables don’t break easily.

sebinspace,

In all honestly I’ve never had an Apple cable break. Haven’t had any Android cables break, either, just so you know I’m not being biased.

Maybe stop treating your cables like shit.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

also usbc to 3.5mm jack adapters have a DAC inside. C-to-HDMI cables have chips in them

can’t justify price of A-C/C-C cables tho

drahardja,

Hi, are you new to Apple?

Billyblue27,

Makes me wanna buy one and reverse engineer it. I feel like it would be a good project for a computer engineering student like me

M0oP0o, (edited )
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

But why would you buy this? It looks like its lighting to usb c and in that case why not just use usb c? I know most modern macs have usb c and I would assume if you have the new phone that would necessitate this dongle you would also have the newer mac or PC with a usb c.

Also this is apple they sell wheels for like $900. www.apple.com/ca/shop/…/apple-mac-pro-wheels-kit <a href=""></a>

stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

i guess so you can use your old lightning cable?

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I guess? Spending $30 to have that tumour on your cable vs $10 or $15 for a nice usb c seems very apple.

stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

Sure but the apple usb-c cable will be $60 and you can’t expect an apple user to buy non-apple products

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

I wonder if people will try to tell me in the future that the apple branded usb cables are better?

stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

of course they will

newthrowaway20,

They also sell a micro fiber cloth for like $30 www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/…/polishing-cloth

What other ridiculous things can you find that apple sells?

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Ohhh this is a fun thing to do.

Some of my favourites:

A stand $1300: www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/…/pro-stand <a href=""></a>

A set of feet $300: www.apple.com/ca/shop/…/apple-mac-pro-feet-kit <a href=""></a>

A pillow for your ear $80: www.apple.com/…/airpods-max-ear-cushions-silver?f… <a href=""></a> *and a needlessly long ULR I guess

A digital pencil $120: www.apple.com/ca/…/apple-pencil-1st-generation?fn… <a href=""></a>

LifeInOregon,

It’s not to adapt cables, it’s to adapt accessories.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Did not know there are that many lightning accessories, thought mac mostly went wireless with those?

LifeInOregon,

Things like thisor this.

There are more, but there are plenty of lightning based accessories and peripherals that people may not be ready to drop for the time being.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Ah yes, the “madcat” stuff. I must admit I did not think of those.

Mongostein,

Yeah. If you’re spending $1500 on the brand new iPhone I’m sure an extra $30 to still be able to use your accessories isn’t a big deal.

Just stay a couple years behind on Apple stuff and it’s not that expensive. I got a brand new iPhone 11 for $300 a in 2021 (it released in 2019). I’ll use it for probably four years. In 2025 I’ll probably be buying this year’s model.

phillaholic,

That Lightning end is huge. There has to be something going on there that makes this cost this much. This has to be be niche though. Only with equipment or accessories where you can’t replace the cable.

tills13,

Was lightning a proprietary communication protocol? If so, probably an active signal translator in the lightning end.

NightAuthor,

Just USB 2.0 (from the year 2000)

phillaholic,

I think you’re right. It’s capable of outing video but doesn’t have enough pins to be usb 3.

lom,

Also surely this should be called a lightning to USB c adapter and not the other way around?

BalooDK,

Why ? It’s transforming an usb-c port to an lightning port

nostradiel,
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

Everything apple does is overpriced scam on people, so why do you even ask? Be sheep and buy it or unplug and look elsewhere…

NightAuthor,

There are plenty of reasons to hate apple. But it’s just as sheepish to have your black and white take.

rbesfe,

Not even any strain relief on the cable connections, this thing will disintegrate within 3 years

NightAuthor,

It looks like their standard rubbery cable material. The sleeve rapidly discolors, and then cracks and frays into some kinda cheese stick cheese head looking situation. Leaving the braided metal shielding exposed. Without fail, every cable for like the past 15 years.

kalleboo,

This one is using their new braided cable instead of the old plastic one

NightAuthor,

Oh, had to zoom in a bit to see the braiding. Well, let’s hope these work out better.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

By sane standards, yes. By apple standards nope totally normal. I’d love to know how many billions they’ve made on cables and dongles which were only necessary because of intentional decisions they made. I probably would vomit though.

Also would be curious, how many people suffered or died due to not being able to charge their phone where a standard charger was available or vice versa for Android users?

I’ve been scoffed at for this idea before, but interoperability is extremely important, especially when you are talking about a major piece of society’s infrastructure. And phones ARE that. It’s hard to know the downstream effects of shit like this. All we know is that at best, millions of times people have had this conversation, needlessly as fuck:

“hey do you have a phone charger? I need a lightning cable.” “No I only have usb-c” (or vice versa)

The best outcome you can hope for is having to think about this and be annoyed several times in your life. For years I refused to buy lightning cables but due to several factors I have ended up needing to buy like 7 lightning cables despite never buying a single apple product that requires one.

And no, apple simps, I give not one shred of a fuck about your apple apologias, fuck off with them. Micro USB was better in the same way a qwerty keyboard is better. technically it’s inferior, but that doesn’t matter AT ALL, because 1) it’s a standard, and 2) it works.

NightAuthor,

If I were to agree on phones being infrastructure, which I may, I’d put the onus of standardization on regulators, not the for profit company.

shasta,

That’s what the EU has just done.

NightAuthor,

Oh, nice!

antim0ny,

“Also would be curious, how many people suffered or died due to not being able to charge their phone where a standard charger was available or vice versa for Android users?”

Are you seriously asking how many people have died because they can’t charge their phone?

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

yeah emergency situations are definitely not a thing, you’re right

ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Ahhh Apple inc the company that made dongles

LethargyTheGhost,

Yes, because you can just buy a usb-c to usb-c for cheaper. You could get a 15 foot one for this price

NightAuthor,

This isn’t the reason, but could be a reasonable explanation:

These dongles are only necessary for things like docks to make their fixed connector work with a new device. So apple won’t sell many of them, therefore they have to charge a lot to make up for low volume.

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