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Furbag, in USB-C confirmed for the iPhone 15 in new leaked part images

Thanks European Union ❤️

thal3s,
@thal3s@sh.itjust.works avatar

The Brussels effect: the burssels effect

ImFresh3x,

The term Brussels effect was coined in 2012 by Professor Anu Bradford of Columbia Law School[1][2][3] and named after the similar California Effect that can be seen within the United States.

Redjard,
@Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The Brussels effect is the process of unilateral regulatory globalisation caused by the European Union de facto (but not necessarily de jure) externalising its laws outside its borders through market mechanisms.

The California effect is the shift of consumer, environmental and other regulations in the direction of political jurisdictions with stricter regulatory standards. The name is derived from the spread of some advanced environmental regulatory standards that were originally adopted by the U.S. state of California and eventually adopted in other states.

The Brussels/California effects are when the EU/California make a law that applies to the EU/California but for various reasons is followed globally/across the US

Tigbitties, in AirTag again exposes lies told by airlines about lost luggage
@Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

I have a prediction: Airlines won't ackowlege that personal trackers as an effective means to track luggage becuase they're trying to figure out how to force you to buy their own trackers.

sebinspace,

Frankly I’m trying to figure out how a system that even allows for luggage to be lost without any accountability is allowed to exist in two thousand twenty fucking three

Sethayy,

Cause somehow we’ve been convinced that if something somehow works once, in one specific scenario - then it must in its entirety be ok for all eternity

(as long as it makes money of course lol)

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Lobbying is easy: “we’ll give you free first class flights if you don’t pass any laws against us”

Goodie,

Easy: doing so would cost too much money, for not enough profit gain.

Aka, there isn’t enough competition between airlines

ttmrichter,
@ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

This is a pile of horseshit right here.

Service in airlines was at its absolute worst when competition was at its tightest. It’s shit now, yes, but during the height of deregulation and “innovations” like the cattle car airlines it was far, far, far worse.

cheery_coffee,

They often know where it is but route it on “wrong” flights to avoid passengers missing transfers. At least every time my luggage gets lost they know exactly where it is.

DarkWasp,
@DarkWasp@lemmy.world avatar

I could see airlines banning the use of these before that ever happens. If I’m not mistaken one or two already have.

lemmyvore,

I’m still trying to figure out why they don’t already use trackers. RFID tags are dirt cheap and it’s 20 years old technology. They already have a process where they add barcode stickers at checkin, slap some RFID in there too.

1luv8008135,

Still an additional cost they’d rather avoid.

IphtashuFitz,

Surprised they don’t offer it as a $20 up charge…

HobbitFoot,

You have to change a lot of equipment to make it useful. Most major airports have very complicated machinery that uses the barcodes, which feeds into the baggage handlers. I don’t know how they fix that machinery to make BLE worth it.

lemmyvore,

They don’t have to convert their entire luggage handling setup to RFID, just use it to augment their lost luggage detection.

Add RFID readers at strategic points and feed their data into a computer, which in turn feeds it to a replicated database. When a piece of luggage is lost look in that database to see where’s the last RFID blip. Also very easy to let the customer see their luggage positions on a website.

lolcatnip,

I think you mean BLE. As far as I understand it, RFID doesn’t have any particular advantage over barcodes for tracking luggage.

ironeagl,

RFID is easier to read, so you could set up scanners at more places. Also easier to walk around looking for a bag and know that it’s somewhere in this pile.

lemmyvore,

Barcodes need line of sight with scanners and close range. RFID detectors can sense tags at larger distances and just based on general proximity.

BLE is also an option, comparison to RFID would depend on setup particularities. RFID would be the more natural choice for throwaway, recyclable stickers that just need to store a short “dumb” ID.

roboticide,

They certainly can and do use a tracking system.

I get notifications from Delta every time my bag moves once it’s checked in - loaded, unloaded, what pickup.

There’s nothing really wrong with barcodes. NFC/RFID would be a logical upgrade though, and just has to integrate into the existing system.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I don’t know how air tags even work. So they have a cellular connection or something? How are they able to be tracked?

henfredemars,

Crowd sourcing. AirTags and other similar trackers emit weak, short range Bluetooth beacons that any iPhone can quietly detect and report along with where they were when the beacon was seen. There are privacy implications for sure, but it works.

RajaGila,

AirTags actually use an encryption scheme. The AirTag will broadcast a public key. The private key is stored in your iPhone and iCloud keyring. Once your phone fetches the location reports from apple’s online service it can decrypt the actual location of the AirTag.

notabot,

They’re Bluetooth beacons. Basically they transmit a very low power signal that any nearby iPhone (I think Android phones do it too now, but I’m not certain) can pick up. When a phone receives the signal it sends the information about the tag and the phone’s current location to the central server. You can then track the tag from there.

IphtashuFitz,

They use a newer low-voltage Bluetooth radio that has a very limited range. When another Apple device like an iPhone, iPad, laptop, etc. is in range then that device will ping Apples servers with an updated location for the air tag in question.

r0bi,

They use a low power Bluetooth (BLE) technology to send beacons that any iPhone can pick up and relay to Apple. They only work because many people have iPhones.

freeman,

They use a combination of Bluetooth and nfc and maybe some wideband spec (though I think the wide and stuff is just for when you go in searching) . Basically anytime it’s near another iPhone, the iPhone picks up the tag ID and sends it in.

If it detects a lot of checkins to a phone that isn’t on the same Apple ID, the AirTag will make noise (as an anti-stalking measure)

I believe a recent patch also allows android to report in status, or maybe that’s coming but still in the works. Not sure.

cynar,

Android won’t track airtags, but will allow 3rd party tags to work via “find my phone” (becoming “find my device”). They have coordinated with Apple however for anti stalking measures. Both can detect longer term presence of each other’s tags, and sound a warning. Apparently they have delayed the release, to allow apple to implement the protocols properly before they do.

Google’s are simple BLE beacons. They ping out periodically, and any android phones nearby note and report its existence and strength (along with their location).

reallynotnick, in Apple says it would remove iMessage and FaceTime in the UK rather than break end-to-end encryption

Respect

mysoulishome,
@mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. They really doubled down on privacy/security and it’s pretty admirable. The President doesn’t use an android or a blackberry for a reason. (Well, two in the case of blackberry. Security and existing). If only there were no other problematic areas of Apple’s business (manufacturing, wages, environmental impact).

Areopagus,

Can’t wait for them to put their money where their mouth is and do the same in China and other large population countries that demand the same thing 😂

reev,

They use WeChat anyway.

damnYouSun,

Well that and the fact that he’s 900 years old and probably thinks all phones are iPhones.

Thorny_Thicket,

They’re hypocrites though. Branding themselves as privacy focused and in some cases actually being that too but at the same time also scanning your photos and messages and reporting to authorities/parents if there something inappropriate.

Inb4 no need to worry if you have nothing to hide -argument

mysoulishome,
@mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

Ok…so I’m aware there is a feature “check for sensitive media” that parents can turn on and AI can send an alert to you if it seems like your kid might be texting nude pics….only works with iMessage since apple doesn’t have access to photos in other apps. No human sees the photos. But that isn’t the same as what you’re saying and I don’t know if what you’re saying is accurate.

Thorny_Thicket,

wired.com/…/apple-photo-scanning-csam-communicati…

This is what I’m talking about.

And the issue with that parental control is that say you’re gay kid in Iran that send nudes to your boyfriend which Apple then reports to your ultra conservative parents. That’s not going to end good for you.

murphys_lawyer,
@murphys_lawyer@lemmy.world avatar

i mean, that’s a pretty niche case and maybe your underage kid shouldn’t be sending nudes via imessage anyways.

Thorny_Thicket,

That’s a whole another discussion. It just one example anyways. My point still stands; this does not increase user privacy.

Nerdlinger,

The child in that case is not the user (or at least not the owner). The user is the parent who configures the phone as they choose and loans it to the child. It’s no different than Apple allowing a business to configure a MacBook as they choose, including tools to monitor its usage, and then offering that computer to one of their employees. The owner of the device gets to choose the privacy settings, not necessarily the end user.

6xpipe_,
@6xpipe_@lemmy.world avatar

Apple Kills Its Plan to Scan Your Photos for CSAM

That headline literally says they’re not doing that. It was a well-meaning initiative that they rightfully backed down on when called out.

I am one of the first to typically assume malice or profit when a company does something, but I really think Apple was trying to do something good for society in a way that is otherwise as privacy-focused as they could be. They just didn’t stop to consider whether or not they should be proactive in legal matters, and when they got reamed by privacy advocates, they decided not to go forward with it.

Thorny_Thicket,

Good on them for canceling those plans but they only did so because of the massive public outcry. They still intended to start scanning your photos and that is worrying.

However I’m not denying that it’s probably still the most privacy focused phone you can get. For now.

monad,

Apple proposes change

Users vote against it

Apple doesn’t do change

Nothing to see here folks

Thorny_Thicket,

I don’t quite see it like that myself. If you want to potray yourself as a user privacy focused company then why would you even suggest such feature? Even if their intentions are purely to just protect children with zero malicious future plans they still know it’s going to have bad optics and be widely controversial.

monad,

they still know it’s going to have bad optics and be widely controversial

How would they know that? It’s often hard to predict how users will react, sometimes your expectations are wrong.

dynamojoe,

but they only did so because of the massive public outcry

Well, shit. For once the voice of the people worked and you’re still bitching about it.

Thorny_Thicket,

You’re right. Maybe I’m being a bit too harsh and should give them some credit. After all they reversed the decision to switch to those shitty butterfly switches on the macbook keyboard too and brought back HDMI and SD card slot. Also ditched that stupid touch bar

kirklennon, (edited )

They still intended to start scanning your photos and that is worrying.

They wanted to scan photos stored in iCloud. Apple has an entirely legitimate interest in not storing CSAM on their servers. Instead of doing it like every other photo service does, which scans all of your photos on the server, they created a complex privacy-preserving method to do an initial scan on device as part of the upload process and, through the magic of math, these would only get matched as CSAM on the server if they were confident (one in a trillion false-positives) you were uploading literally dozens of CSAM images, at which point they'd then have a person verify to make absolutely certain, and then finally report your crime.

The system would do the seemingly impossible of preserving the privacy of literally everybody except the people that everyone agrees don't deserve it. If you didn't upload a bunch of CSAM, Apple itself would legitimately never scan your images. The scan happened on device and the match happened in the cloud, and only if there were a enough matches to guarantee confidence. It's honestly brilliant but people freaked out after a relentless FUD campaign, including from people and organizations who absolutely should know better.

sharkfucker420, in USB-C confirmed for the iPhone 15 in new leaked part images

I can finally ask iPhone users for a charger. The world is healing

valiente,

Bet you they will make their cable charge non iPhones slower… adding some proprietary tech inside the charger, phone or cable which only allows fast charging on Official Apple Certified products etc.

sweeny,

Yep, and Samsung (basically the apple of android) already does this. It’s annoying having all these old proprietary Samsung fast chargers around now that I’ve switched to google. They still charge decently, I just wish everyone would use the free fast charging standard

Gork,

They’ve already got that. Cables need to be “MFI Certified” by Apple so charging works correctly.

Goodtoknow,
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

EU regulations banned that idea from taking place thankfully

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

just imagine how dystopian our world would be if there was no EU

whofearsthenight,

But actually the free market would take care of this because capitalism is so great. Anyway, I have to get back to freebasing whatever’s under my sink now.

bigdog_00,

I mean the free market did, people decided they just didn’t care. You may have been sarcastic, but people have indeed decided it didn’t matter to them. That’s the “regulation” in this case

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t know why people think this. USB-C is on every Apple product except iPhone and AirPods, and they were quite an early adopter of it, putting it on the MacBook in 2015. For comparison, the first Samsung phone with USB-C was the Note 7, 1.5 years later.

They’ve done nothing proprietary with it in all that time, and Apple products with USB-C have followed the spec quite closely (unlike offenders such as Nintendo). Outside of unsubstantiated rumours and FUD, there’s no reason to think they’ll do anything different.

UnculturedSwine,

There is plenty of reason to think they will do something different. Apple is notorious for being petty with their interpretability. They have yet to build the RCA standard into their messages app because doing so would mean playing ball with their competitors. They intentionally make their Mac parts in such a way that you can’t get 3rd party replacements and instead need to rely on Apple for repair. They do shit like this all the time and I wouldn’t put it past them to limit interpretability here because they’ve made the calculation that their customers will think that it’s a problem with the competitor and switch to Apple more often than not.

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

Personally I don’t see those as the same. NVMe and RCS didn’t exist when Apple started doing PCIE storage and iMessage. It is true that they are reluctant to move to a standard or incorporate it if they already have their own solution in place that works for them.

But they haven’t proprietarily extended or altered a standard in a long time. You may feel differently, which is fair. If I had to bet though, I suspect that we’ll just see a standard USB-C port that works with all their other standards complaint chargers and cables they’ve been making for the last decade.

UnculturedSwine,

I really don’t want to get into it so I’m just going to give you a good ol Louis Rossmann video for your viewing pleasure. The point is that Apple has literally built in mechanisms in their ssds to prevent interpretability even as their old tech worked with it and yet tons of people buy their products with their blatant anti competitive practices and people like you will do apologetics for them. They could build RCS into their app at any point but they don’t and blaming their competitors for why they can’t put it in. They do it with apps on their smart speakers as well. They only want their services to work with their devices and there is no excuse for the most profitable tech company to act that way except that it affects their bottom line and if there was anything they could do to pad their pockets with this switch to USB c, you could bet your bottom dollar that they would do it.

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

A soldiered SSD is not designed to be interoperable, shocking. Because they don’t want you futzing about inside the machine does not mean they will proprietarily extend or restrict external ports. I’m not making excuses for the first one, I’m saying they aren’t the same thing.

I’m just being realistic and using the information in front of me. Apple has been using USB-C for years, and hasn’t done anything nefarious with it. They will do the same with the iPhone 15. It’ll just be a standard USB port. Feel free to spread FUD if you wish, but it’s obvious for anyone following along that this is what will happen. I will happily eat my words if it turns out not to be true.

UnculturedSwine,

I’ll spread all the FUD. My ability to doubt is something I don’t see as a negative. It’s literally kept me alive.

SirShanova,

Before Apple went ARM, they weren’t perfect, but they weren’t the worst. You could swap RAM on iMacs, change out storage on Mac Minis. But as they adopted ARM, RAM was incorporated into the SoC. And while poor for interoperability, there are notable performance improvements in this system-in-a-package design. More so, they do allow for some storage upgrades with the current Mac Mini and Mac Studio, even if it’s still somewhat user-hostile.

As for the charging question at hand, yeah…they probably WANTED something stupid like they did with MFi certification on lightning cables, but it seems as though the EU has already warned them about that. Hopefully we’ll end up with a pretty nice usb-c experience!

blindjezebel,

Genuinely curious, how did Nintendo change their specs for USB C? I still charge both my steam deck and switch off the charger my deck came with, but only the deck works with the usb-c to hdmi dongle I got. How does that work?

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

That I’m not exactly sure about. All I know is that every Apple device with USB-C I own works with all the USB-C docks I own with full port compatibility and video out, yet 3rd party docks have fried Switches and to get video out you need their dock.

If you search online I’m pretty sure people have gone indepth about what exactly Nintendo did differently.

GenderNeutralBro,

There was quite a scandal years ago because the Switch could get fried by third-party docks.

I’ve heard different explanations and I’m not 100% sure what’s true.

Here’s a good FAQ on the topic. switchchargers.com/nintendo-switch-bricking-faq/

If anyone knows more about this, please share! I’m not sure if the Switch is indeed noncompliant or if that was just a rumor/hypothesis.

Nogami,

Could easily be out of spec chargers. There are a number of prominent iPhone repair specialists (Louis Rossman, iPadRehab and such) that highly recommend against using 3rd party USB power supplies because there’s no guarantee of quality.

You can easily destroy your expensive device. They even recommend against using the built-in USB ports in planes and transit and instead using an AC power port with your OEM charging adapter to be safe.

Prof_Eibe,

There is a paper of one thirdparty producer, that explains what happens in cheap products: arstechnica.com/…/heres-why-nintendo-switch-conso…

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

They also had no reason to use sms for texting android users even when rms exists and they also had no reason to resist USB c in the first place as well it really blows my mind just how pretty apple is with random ass issues

whofearsthenight,

They do have a solid rumor that they’re sticking with USB 2.0 speeds for for the USB C iPhone and that non-MFI certified cables may be slow charging only, so while I’ve got my finger’s crossed that’s false since I’m an iPhone guy, Apple still seems to be looking for a way to skirt the EU and still get the accessory cut.

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

USB 2.0 I would buy, I’m sure they have the telemetry to tell them that like less than 1% of iPhones are ever plugged into a computer or data accessory at this point. USB 3 would be nice but it’s not a dealbreaker for almost anyone.

MFI certification I don’t. They didn’t do it with iPads or MacBooks, why with iPhones? It just doesn’t pass the smell test. Just one product that shares the same connector with all their other products has an MFI program but all the others don’t? Even though when it was Lightning, MFI applied to all of them?

It’s possible they will launch a program, but it will just be one that allows you to put the little “MFI” icon on your box. It won’t be one that will limit charging speeds. I get the uncertainty if this was the first Apple product to switch to USB, but it’s the last major one. Just wouldn’t make sense.

whofearsthenight,

MFI certification I don’t. They didn’t do it with iPads or MacBooks, why with iPhones?

Kinda already answering your own question. Those products converted to USB C a while ago, and there hasn’t been a technical reason to not convert iPhone for at least as long. Why not iPhone? It’s probably because if I had to guess, the MFI business is like, a lot of money. Probably hundreds of millions.

If you follow apple and the rumors fairly closely, this is one that at this point will be a surprise if it doesn’t happen.

TragicNotCute, in Apple's mission to make the Mac safer is slowly destroying it
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re curious how but don’t want to read, I skimmed and it seems like overzealous privacy/permission warnings are at the heart of their complaints. I’d agree, it’s annoying but I prefer it to the alternative.

Creative cloud wanted to run at login, and in the old days, it would just make that happen. Now it implores YOU to turn on the setting because it cannot. That’s a win in my book.

nautilus,

I swear articles like this were written by companies like Adobe

Streetdog,

Rule #1 in journalism: follow the money.

tsonfeir,

You mean stuff like sandboxing and preventing apps from making system changes?

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Asking for permission to access downloads OS fine by me.

But what pisses me off to no end is system integrity protection. Want a new system sound? Have to boot into recovery, turn it off, copy the file, sign your new modified system, then turn it on and reboot.

And every single update will undo your changes.

ahti,

Okay but would you prefer the alternative where anything with root permissions (either apps with privileged helper processes or any pkg you ever installed) can modify the OS in whatever way it likes and permanently and invisibly install some kind of malware/spyware?

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Yes.

Just give me the option to turn it off permanently. I want control over my system.

It’s good for the idiots who just click things randomly. But I don’t want it for myself.

SgtAStrawberry,

While that is good, to many warning pop ups also aren’t good. As if you always need to click through 5-7 warnings/permission windows, you might not notice when a bad one sneaks in to the middle.

It’s a difficult problem to navigate, especially as you need to have it work for such a big and diverse audience.

SkepticalButOpenMinded,

That’s a theoretical issue. In actuality, I haven’t faced anything close to windows level pop ups. I think Apple has struck the right balance personally and I would definitely not want to go back.

SgtAStrawberry,

That’s really good. I don’t personally use Appel for computers, so I never seen how they do it.

conciselyverbose,

Too many popups is really Windows' issue. It's not that all the bullshit companies do doesn't require you to authorize it; it's that anything you install needs effectively the same permission and you're basically conditioned to ignore it.

Apple's version where it tells you what it wants permission for is much better.

_cnt0,
@_cnt0@feddit.de avatar

It’s a difficult problem to navigate, especially as you need to have it work for such a big and diverse audience.

That’s a very polite way of saying that part of the target audience are idiots.

Lon3star, in Does anyone else think this is kind of expensive?

Apple is an accessory company that makes technology products

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Apple is a dongle manufacturer, but they also sell devices you can stick your dongle into.

nilloc,

My first apple product was a PowerBook (the first aluminum one after the titanium laptop).

It came with a DVI/VGA dongle and had FireWire 800, 400, Ethernet, 56k modem, a bunch of USB ports, headphone and mic jacks, a DVI port, and even cardbus slot.

I only ever really used the DVI, FireWire, USB and headphone ports though. And the separate mic port was actually a pain in the ass.

Random_user,

The 1 thousand dollar monitor stand blurs the line between accessories and “should be required to be part of the package”

youthinkyouknowme, in AirTag again exposes lies told by airlines about lost luggage

Happened on a recent flight with me. Company told us luggage was still on the origin airport, someone had an air tag and vehemently asked them to do a double check, and they miraculously found where it was supposed to be in the first place…

GBU_28,

On a recent trip we just went up to the youngest looking baggage worker, showed them, asked very nicely, and they walked back and found it. Tipped em 20 bucks for 5 minutes of effort. They were super nice.

The airline was less than helpful, actively saying the bag was lost.

DrPop,

We’re suppose to tip airline workers now?

TheMightyCanuck,

They tipped because they got an individual baggage handler to go find their specific bag for them…

That wasn’t their job, they did it out of kindness. Kindness can deserve a tip. There was no obligation

Colorcodedresistor,

i mean…some of the stuff i have to travel with, i mighta gave him a handy, and im a married dude.

WeirdGoesPro,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

How you doin’?

GBU_28,

We tipped under no obligation, the guy specially went out of his way for me, and I thought that was special.

The guy literally salvaged a whole day of vacation for me

The_Ferry,

And that is exactly the point of tipping, at least for me. It’s like a reward for extraordinary service

MyNameIsIgglePiggle,

I don’t come from somewhere with a tipping culture, but if someone came to me with an airtag tracker and said hey can you get my bag, and my job is to get your bags, I would happily just do my job instead of thinking “fuck you” and start to fight.

Shit I would even apologise for having lost it in the first place.

It would not even occur to me that someone would tip, or I would be getting one.

IphtashuFitz, (edited )

Take photos of your luggage before checking them. That way you can show the employees exactly what they’re looking for.

GBU_28,

Luckily our bag was a very distinctive color with a large brand logo but yep

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Ugly luggage unite!!

Isoprenoid,

Tipped em 20 bucks

So we’re paying an extra baggage fee now?

The airline was less than helpful, actively saying the bag was lost.

The young baggage worker is the airline. They are a representative of the company.

GBU_28,

The employee was an airport employee, not a specific airline employee.

I was under no obligation to tip, I didn’t mention money until he hustled, was very nice, and accomplished the task. I invented the idea of giving him money for his help, I was never prompted.

A fee is not a tip. A fee is mandatory, and issued prior to service, a tip is optional.

This guy saved a day of my vacation and I decided that fortunate exchange with him was worth 20 dollars at least, and he was thankful for the exchange.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Isoprenoid,

Would you be willing to pay $20 to make sure your bag made it to your destination?

GBU_28,

Let’s cut to the chase:

  1. For the cost of my ticket, I expect my bag to get there when I do, no further changes required.
  2. We all acknowledge the industry is being shitty by not managing this problem.
  3. My anecdote regarding the utility of an air tag, and the nice exchange I had with a non affiliated airport employee highlights the issue, and doesn’t condone it.
  4. My choice to tip the employee was because he was very nice to me, and even technically subverted airport policy to specifically retrieve my bag. I appreciated him going out of his way, and possibly even carrying some risk for my benefit, not because I feel the value I tipped should be normally included for the service.

Any point you are trying to make about the “system” the industry or me being a rube for giving money away doesn’t hold water.

I’m capable of two thoughts at once:

  1. The industry is fucked up, and providing bad service to the customer.
  2. I found someone in the industry who isn’t benefiting from the corporate policy and practices in any way, they’re just a shift worker. I valued his attempt to provide good service, and I made my opinion and thanks known materially. This doesn’t mean I condone the industry habits.
Isoprenoid,

For the cost of my ticket, I expect my bag to get there when I do, no further changes required.

No. That was the previous deal, the deal has been altered. You now have to pay an extra fee to ensure the bag gets to its destination, otherwise you roll the dice.

This doesn’t mean I condone the industry habits.

You enabled industry habits. Its the same reason why tipping in restaurants still exists, because people pay it. If the majority of people decided not to, then the culture of tipping would die out.

technically subverted airport policy to specifically retrieve my bag. I appreciated him going out of his way, and possibly even carrying some risk for my benefit,

This is enabling. Nothing has fundamentally changed with the current system, and there has been no feedback to the industry. So it will remain as it is.

GBU_28,

When did I try to change the industry by interacting with the airPORT employee? I provided feedback via stern conversation with the airline rep, whatever little/nothing that does. I also strictly do not check a bag any more, so am no longer within that cost cycle.

The airPORT employee is not in the cycle you are inventing in your head. He is entirely separate from it, and benefits nothing at all from the airLINE practices.

The airPORT employee operated without any assumption of reward beyond a “thanks”, so his actions were free of financial feedback, because they were decided prior to knowledge of monetary incentive. Further the airLINE is not aware of, and did not profit from his action, so my tip did not 'enable" their practices, as the only information they digested from the exchange is my criticism of their failure.

Read the room dude, you don’t always have to agree with the crowd, but you’re obviously wrong on this one, and I’m all done talking to you

Isoprenoid, (edited )

you’re obviously wrong on this one

Ah, true, I didn’t see that before. I should have just read what you wrote.

billwashere,

Unfortunately this is like feeding a dog from the table to get them to go away. You’re essentially rewarding bad behavior.

Unless there is ever an incentive to not lose your luggage or a punishment if they do the airlines will continually do this.

foofiepie,

Happened to me on a recent trip to a country well known for crime.

Your luggage is lost sir, you’ll have to fill in a form.

My luggage is about 15m away behind that wall. Here, see this map. Go get it.

10 min later: Oh your luggage is here sir. Terribly sorry.

Not sure if incompetence or shenanigans but I got my luggage back.

malloc, in Apple Plans to Stop Providing Customer Support on Twitter and YouTube

Would be nice if companies can spin up their own (lemmy|mastodon|…) instances and push out releases there. No more “blue check marks” to verify authenticity or relying on the platform to be stable. If it comes from @public.apple.com, then it’s guaranteed to be authentic.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

… what? Why would a company release software on a microblogging platform?

What I think you’re getting at is the use of asymmetric cryptography. But Apple can use that while still releasing thru normal means like the App Store, their website, etc

Earthwormjim91,

The fuck are you talking about???

They’re not talking about releasing software, they’re talking about customer support.

nbafantest,

They wouldn’t release software, Apple would run their own federated server.

Similarly to apple has its own Apple.com email addresses.

thal3s,
@thal3s@sh.itjust.works avatar

If it’s good enough for the BBC and the German government, then it’s good enough for large corporations.

Plus, there was just a post earlier today where someone was showing X/Twitter was asking for $1000 a month to verify their business account. Why would Apple ever pay that?

affiliate,

because to them $1000/mo is the equivalent of paying a subscription with your pocket lint

bobman,

They still wouldn’t pay it if they can find a way around it.

affiliate,

i agree that apple probably doesnt want to throw $1k/mo into the trash, but if you were to take a detailed look at all of the money apple spends each month, you would likely find a lot of waste that is harder to justify than having a verified presence on twitter. not saying i agree with them hypothetically spending $1k/mo on twitter, but if you’re running a multinational corporation that pulls in almost $400 billion a year, you most likely wouldn’t care too much about where 0.000003% of your annual revenue is going.

DrQuint,

Also they can additionally see subdomain accounts as a verification service.

The point of Twitter was they didn’t have to do it themselves tho. Company websites weren’t a thing back in the past bur became one for the same reason they later got Twitter. The suggestion of self hosting is, in a way, somewhat of a step back. But they SHOULD be doing it.

deegeese, (edited ) in Apple faces renewed pressure to protect child safety: ‘Child sexual abuse is stored on iCloud. Apple allows it.’

Call me crazy, but I don’t think corporations should be in the business of scanning everyone’s private data on behalf of “the authorities”.

Too many ways it can go very wrong.

dylanmorgan,

Agreed. Children have been exploited for much longer than there has been photography, much less iPhones.

Astroturfed,

Also, I feel like there’s probably not much of that on apples servers… Like wouldn’t that mind if cloud network be the last place you’d want to put illegal pictures? If I was trying to hide some felony pics or data I wouldn’t be trusting a large corporations cloud services.

avater, in Does anyone else think this is kind of expensive?
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

you’re new to Apple aren’t you?

the_kalash, in Apple Explains Why It Won’t Make iPhones With Replaceable Batteries

The entire “waterproof” concept is just marketing. So they got some rating claiming you can put the phone 6m under water, sure sounds impressive.

But one of the first things in your ToS will be “Liquid damage is not covered under warranty”.

They know it’s bullshit.

WaLLy3K, (edited )
@WaLLy3K@infosec.pub avatar

To be fair, accidental damage is never covered under “warranty” (or any other extended service guarantee “warranty equivalents”) from any manufacturer. Given these black rectangles go everywhere with us, it’s still very good to have a device that won’t absolutely crap itself as soon as it gets dropped in water.

I say this as someone who often sees customers bring in water damaged devices, wanting their data off of it.

Frankly though, I wish the term used was “water resistance” and not “waterproof”. That semantic annoys me.

madcaesar,

Isn’t all damage accidental?

qarbone,

Nah, an overbearing parent smashing a phone to “teach them a lesson” isn’t an “accident”

WaLLy3K,
@WaLLy3K@infosec.pub avatar

Since Apple make no distinction between “malicious damage” and “accidental damage”, then everything is called accidental. However, there are times where accidental damage is covered under warranty (or rather, a “service program”) when there’s an issue that’s widespread enough that is attributed to a manufacture or design defect – the warping of the plastic on the bottom of the Late 2009 Macbook comes to mind.

eek2121,

You should read AppleCare+ ToS before you make that claim. They will absolutely let you file a claim for accident damage (it is spelled out in the ToS).

WaLLy3K, (edited )
@WaLLy3K@infosec.pub avatar

AppleCare is not warranty (but is an equivalent), while AppleCare+ is the equivalent of insurance. I’ve edited my post to clarify this a little better.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Im curios how often do you drop your phone in water? I swear to god in my now 35 years, I never lost a phone nor a smartphone due to water damage…

claycle,

People read their phones on the toilet - probably every single modern phone user has done it at least once. It is not inconceivable that a small, but significant, number of them have fumbled the phone and it has fallen into the bowl.

Likewise, pools, beaches, and boats are places people are very likely to go with their phones in tow and in use. It is not unlikely some of those - one can assume - millions of instances have produced some contacts between phone and water.

I ride a motorcycle and mount my phone on the handlebars for guidance. I spend a lot of effort keeping it dry and have actually lost a couple of USB cables (but not the phone, thankfully) to damp.

loobkoob,
@loobkoob@kbin.social avatar

About 20 yeses ago - pre-smartphones - my sister lost a phone to water damage. It was in a backpack pocket during a camping/hiking trip and the backpack got rained on a lot. Everyone else's phone was fine because they were kept either in waterproof backpack compartments or in trouser/waterproof coat pockets.

Around the same time, I also had a friend whose phone was broken when we were rafting and the raft capsized. The rest of us on the raft had left our phones at home because _why would you risk bringing a mobile phone on a homemade raft?!_

Those are the only two instances I know of personally where someone's phone has been destroyed by water damage and it hasn't just been an "oops I dropped it in the toilet" situation (I'm still not sure how people manage that). And even the second example was still due to stupidity, I think - there's a reason the rest of us didn't rake our phones on the raft. My sister's phone being damaged in the backpack is the only one that didn't feel preventable, and where a water resistance phone would genuinely have been a good thing.

kite,

“oops I dropped it in the toilet” situation (I’m still not sure how people manage that).

Have a sweater or a jacket on, put the phone in your pocket. Do your duty, turn just a little too fast when going to flush, and your phone flies out of your pocket and arcs right into your doody.

:(

LonelyWendigo,

I don’t need to be careless or have any real danger of dropping my phone in water to worry about water protection; humidity, sweat, rain, accidental splashes from a sink, spilled drinks, children, etc. are all very real often unpredictable water risks I might have very little opportunity to realistically avoid. I’ve seen those water detection stickers indicate water on devices that I know for a fact have been babied and never dunked for even a moment. Often humidity and a sweaty pocket were the only likely culprit.

Random_user,

I swim with my galaxy phone. It’s nice to be able to take pics of my son anywhere in the water park.

abhibeckert, (edited )

I get caught outside in the rain unexpectedly about a dozen times a year living in a tropical city where it can go from dry to raining so heavy you can’t see the other side of the street with about 30 seconds warning.

Those powerful storms are often very small and they might only rain for a minute or two. It’s impossible to predict when they will pass over, the city might be hit by 50 or so of them in a single day, but they’re so small most of the city won’t see any rain even though it technically rained 50 times somewhere in the city.

Despite being small they it can be heavy enough to cause flash flooding. The city has pumps that can force 70,000 litres of water per second out of the city and into the ocean (before that, it was near impossible to live here).

I carry a dry bag for my laptop and headphones everywhere I go, I guess I’d be putting my phone in there too, which will be annoying.

Zak,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

Frankly though, I wish the term used was “water resistance” and not “waterproof”. That semantic annoys me.

Better is to use an ingress protection code, which provides standardized ratings for exactly how dust and water resistant a device is. Apple does use IP codes and rates the latest iPhones as IP68: dust-tight, submersible at a depth and duration specified by the manufacturer. Apple specifies “maximum depth of 6 meters up to 30 minutes”.

abhibeckert, (edited )

I wish the term used was “water resistance” and not “waterproof”. That semantic annoys me.

In my experience they are waterproof. I have AppleCare+ so if my phone were to suffer water damage it’d be relatively cheap to get it fixed, and I fairly frequently expose my phones to water. I’ve never lost one to water damage so far.

My understanding is the water proof glue can in theory be damaged if it’s exposed to extreme temperatures and the like - that’s why Apple doesn’t cover water damage for free. But I’ve done that too (I’ve had my phone shut down with a temperature error a few times - usually when it’s on my motorbike in the full sun for an extended period of time with a map open… it’s fine while riding with the windchill but if you park the bike or get stuck in traffic, then it can overheat). Mine still hasn’t died int he rain including 60mph driving rain (on the motorbike…) which it’s supposedly not designed to handle. Every time that’s happened I haven’t really had a choice. I’d rather get where I’m going than stand in the rain parked on the side of the road waiting how long, five minutes? three hours? for the rain to stop.

The one time I have lost a phone to the water damage it wasn’t water it was extreme humidity. So I suspect putting the phone in a backpack, and then riding a motorbike in the rain, will actually increase the risk. Proper water has surface tension that stops it entering microscopic gaps. Humidity doesn’t do that. And the inside of a backpack is never dry on a motorbike in the rain.

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social avatar

Even if that weren't the case, waterproof devices with replaceable batteries have already been made for years. There is no technical reason water resistance precludes replaceable batteries. It's just more bullshit.

MossyFeathers, in AirTag again exposes lies told by airlines about lost luggage

I’ve heard the fix for lost luggage (in the USA) is unironically to put a flare gun or starter pistol in checked luggage (note, you do have to declare it and ensure it’s properly stored). Why? The airlines get their asses reamed by the ATF if they lose it. If I’m not mistaken, the same laws about firearms in checked luggage apply to a flaregun as they do a Browning M2. If they’re lax enough about following firearm laws to lose a flaregun then they’re lax enough to lose a high-caliber, fully automatic heavy machine gun.

freeman,

A flare gun is essentially a 3d printed single use .410 shotgun.

Dultas,

One we have is more the size of a 12 gauge shell, just a lot less kick.

whosdadog,

It must be in a locked, hard sided case. You let TSA inspect it, then you get to keep the keys and they do not. It’s a common(?) trick for photographers with thousands of dollars of camera equipment to put a starter pistol in the camera case.

seathru,

I might be wrong, I’m not an expert here and every airline has their own rules on top of the federal ones. But I have flown with firearms and they always had to be in a separate, locked, hard sided case. I don’t remember any part of the check in process where I would have been able to put the case back in with the rest of my luggage. I definitely do not recommend just plopping your suitcase up there and saying “hey there’s a flare gun next to my socks” unless you have a lot of time to kill.

MossyFeathers,

I probably should have been more specific by what I meant when I said, “properly stored”. I think you can put anything into the hard-sided case with the flaregun as I’ve heard photographers (as someone else mentioned), musicians, tech enthusiasts, etc will get a pelican case, put their cameras, computers, instruments, etc into the case with the flaregun. You’re right that you can’t just dump it into a dufflebag and call it a day, and I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that you can’t put a dufflebag inside the container with the flaregun, as I’ve heard they’ll tell you that it needs to be independently checked and stored in the luggage compartment.

To put it another way, the case isn’t transporting your clothes, it is transporting your flaregun and you’ve just happened to use any extra space to pack your clothes.

Rognaut,

I flew American Airlines with a gun and it had to be in a hard locked case that I was able to put in my luggage to be checked. I had the keys. I had to pick up my luggage at the help center.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

I don’t remember any part of the check in process where I would have been able to put the case back in with the rest of my luggage.

That’s odd. I’ve flown with a pistol several times and it’s always been the other way around. After TSA does their check the locked pistol case gets put back inside a piece of my checked luggage. What have they done with yours? Just tossed it on the conveyor belt like its another piece of luggage?

seathru,

Just tossed it on the conveyor belt like its another piece of luggage?

Yeah, they just tagged it like another piece of luggage and sent it down the line. One airport it got spit out with my luggage in the baggage claim, another I had to pick it up from the lost luggage office.

Honestly I never thought about putting it in with my luggage. Partially because that’s where I had the ammo stored and wasn’t sure they could be in the same container even if the firearm was secured in it’s own. I hate being in airports enough as it is so I try to follow the instructions to a T.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah, they just tagged it like another piece of luggage and sent it down the line.

Huh, maybe my secure (pistol) traveling cases are smaller than yours. I guess my larger fitted one could go on a conveyor belt okay but my smaller one would easily be lost if it wasn’t inside something else. Every airline has different rules though so the difference could also be that you are flying SouthWest while I’m normally on United / Frontier.

Nioxic, in Apple Explains Why It Won’t Make iPhones With Replaceable Batteries

The EU dont care… lol

riodoro1,

Until you use some of that money for lobbying political influence they don’t.

Facebook can get away with advertising literal scam to kids and old people alike and there are no consequences for them.

notepass,

If I remember correctly: If it is watertight, replaceable batteries are not required. EZ way to skirt around this stuff.

Bardfinn,

Do you want a phone that self destructs when it gets wet? Apple engineers have thought this through.

Osa-Eris-Xero512,

Yes they have, which tells me no engineers were consulted for this statement. Waterproofing and replaceable batteries is a trivial combination.

Bardfinn,

Is this subreddit run by samshit employees or something? Nobody did waterproofing well before Apple started the trend.

min0nim,
@min0nim@aussie.zone avatar

This is simply not the case. Saying it’s ‘trivial’ is like saying it’s trivial to travel to Mars because we’ve sent things there before. Reliably sealing anything with a joint is far from trivial.

themeatbridge,

We had phones with replaceable batteries for a long time. Many of them were waterproof, but none of them exploded on contact with water.

Bardfinn,

This is essentially 9/11 trutherism applied to smartphones.

themeatbridge,

I don’t follow the metaphor.

gdbjr,

Water resistance not waterproof. I don’t know if any general consumer phones that are waterproof.

electrogamerman,

“Apple engineers” lol

Get the Apple out of your ass

Bardfinn,

You clearly do not have the skill to work at apple

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social avatar

Waterproof phones with replaceable batteries are most certainly possible and have existed for over a decade at least. Sorry, but that argument is total bullshit.

AnonStoleMyPants,

Nah.

To ensure the safety of end-users, this Regulation should provide for a limited derogation for portable batteries from the removability and replaceability requirements set for portable batteries concerning appliances that incorporate portable batteries and that are specifically designed to be used, for the majority of the active service of the appliance, in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion and that are intended to be washable or rinseable.

From here: www.europarl.europa.eu/…/TA-9-2023-0237_EN.html#t…

So watertight is definitely enough of a reason.

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social avatar

Except this is a bullshit exception because not only is it 100% possible to make waterproof devices with replaceable batteries, they have existed for years already. There is absolutely no technical reason for this, and the exception probably only exists because the corporations influenced the legislators to effectively gut the law.

scarilog,

I don’t think a phone counts as that since it’s not something that’s expected to be regularly subject to water

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social avatar

That's really stupid, waterproof phones with replaceable batteries are certainly possible and have been done before.

Metal_Zealot, in [Self Promo] I've just made Avelon (a native iOS app for Lemmy) available for download!
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world avatar

The 3rd party app scene flourishing for Lemmy is the perfect “fuck you”.

Xepp, (edited ) in Drop tests leave iPhone 15 Pro absolutely battered; iPhone 14 Pro comes out fully functional

This is because they were forced to build it with USB-C by evil Europe!

ModsAreCopsACAB, (edited )

Please edit that to say “were”, it’s giving me an aneurysm.

Edit: downvoted for being right, typical Lemmy.

dxc,
@dxc@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s because you can shove your aneurysm back where it came from. You know how it’s spelled correctly, just look over it.

Dran_Arcana,

Spelling and grammar are important. Language is only as useful as it is commonly and uniformly understood.

Mr_Blott,

Agreed. Purposeful ignorance of spelling and grammar is basically saying to the person you’re typing to “I’m too lazy to learn simple concepts so you’ll have to spend extra time trying to parse my sentences”

potpotato,

Ironically, you have omitted punctuation.

DigitalPaperTrail,

90% of the time I see grammar nazis doing their thing, it's never about protecting the "sanctity" of grammar - it's more about exerting control and attempting to enjoy the feeling of being right.

The other 10% of the time are from people that know its purpose is to be a vehicle for the communication of ideas, and will also make up statistics.

I love me some irony, and felt this comment train was more engaging than the post itself; so I'm contributing to its further development.

Mr_Blott,

Yep, all good. Though in no way was I being a grammar Nazi, I was stating my opinion. I don’t bother with perfect punctuation because it’s not necessary to be instantly readable.

Also, my nephew told me that putting a full stop at the end of a sentence now is sometimes seen as a bit rude 😅 No idea why, but that’s ok, it’s still just as readable

DigitalPaperTrail, (edited )

Yeah, I heard mention about periods at the end of chat, comments, and txts make them seem more rude, since it's supposed to be a more informal form of communication. I take it as them interpreting it as the sender being overly formal and strict, and dictating, as the reader is reading it in their mind, where the end of the message is.

Instead of letting them read it with an open invitation for a reply at the end, it communicates the sender doesn't want to continue further down the topic - it adds a sense of finality to the thought when the person reads it, internally. It's definitely something in language that's part of a generational divide formed completely by the media it's being conveyed in.

Did an internet search after hearing it, and came across articles that bring it up; like https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909969004/before-texting-your-kid-make-sure-to-double-check-your-punctuation and https://writingcooperative.com/gen-z-hates-the-full-stop-47dde5ec2b5c

DigitalPaperTrail,

Also, unrelated to my wall-o-txt, I can't get over my love of kbin's transparency of upvotes and downvotes - after moving over, I can see exactly who is tossing them around. It prevents a whole lot of misunderstandings.

Mr_Blott,

Though in almost the same sentence he said that “…” annoys him too. I find they have opposite meanings and he’s probably just a wee fanny

DigitalPaperTrail, (edited )

Yeah, he could be reading it the same as someone looking them straight in the face, judgmentally communicating "are you being dumb?", when it could mean any number of things - like contemplating pensively or not knowing what to say.

The younger generation has had trouble with others watching and judging them in a lot of aspects in life - not just from real life interactions with the older gen, but also things like the constant barrage of being forcefully compared with peers on digital platforms that are incentivized to do so. It can manifest in a lot of aspects in interactions that leave them always feeling inadequate. Acting on that mindset, that could be how "..." can become a negative interaction instead of neutral.

More communication with you about it would probably help him untangle those signals, and learn to relax about it a little, though.

scottywh,

Your nephew is a dolt.

Full stop.

Mr_Blott,

We call him Vileda due to his mop-like appearance

potpotato,

“It’s not necessary to be instantly readable.”

Also: “I’m too lazy to learn simple concepts so you’ll have to spend extra time trying to parse my sentences”

Furthermore, you dropped some commas.

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

That's kind an argument for not caring about spelling and grammar. We can all tell what Xepp meant. The principle at hand is why linguists say that insisting on rigid grammar and spelling is pointless. Also, language evolves... otherwise we'd be saying thy and thou. Dialects other than the 'prestige dialect' spoken and written by people with the highest access to education are considered perfectly legitimate because all that matters is whether the listener can understand..

Mr_Blott,

I thought we were meant to be inclusive now? There’s a good chunk of us that literally can’t look past a sentence that’s like a car crash. It’s like an old vinyl record that’s got a scratch, our eyes keep jumping back to the horrible spelling and reading it again the same way you’d look at a dismembered corpse at the side of the road, despite not actually wanting to

Inclusiveness for purists!!!

Dran_Arcana,

Bill helped his brother, jack, off a horse.

Bill helped his brother jack off a horse

It doesn’t take much sometimes for a sentence to completely change meaning,l; at best we knew what he meant but struggled through it slightly.

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

Sure, that's an example where we don't understand the intent of the author.

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

🤓

ModsAreCopsACAB,

“🤓” on people who know more than you to checks notes… show off how ignorant you are. Congrats.

Xepp,

You are absolutely right!

sudo22,
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