Foldable smartphones have reached their fifth major generation, as heralded by Samsung’s Galaxy Z Flip 5 and Fold 5...
For me it's definitely the durability concerns. I've valued my phone's water and dust resistance since getting an ip67 phone years and years ago. My brother had a flip and a grain of sand in his pocket got under the display; when he closed the phone the display died. And they expect me to pay more for the privilege.
To double or more the storage for much cheaper than the internal storage upgrades cost… is that not enough? Even the folds don’t have more than 512gb and they cost over $1000. My sub $500 phone from years ago is running a 512gb SD card, which I can seamlessly slot into my next phone when I swap.
Sure, but why do you need Storage in the first place? I have always had less than 100gb and it’s plenty for all apps etc. Everything else goes in the cloud
Sure, let me pay the same I did for the SD card for half as much storage that will expire in a year ($40 for 200GB in GDrive). It’ll be super handy when I am on 250MB of cell data or have no reception at all and want to listen to my music in the cloud.
I don’t mind spending on good tools, but I won’t buy a highly locked down device at any cost. An open source OS is a must, any new device will have to compete with my current phone that also has an SD card, headphone jack and is easy enough to open so that I can change the battery myself. Folding phones are inferior in all those aspects.
Maybe battery life, and I don't want to give up my headphone jack and memory card slot. :(
Cost isn't a real concern for me; Samsung has very aggressieve discount pricing where I am, I could get a Z Fold 4 with the same RAM/memory for about 10% more than the S23 Ultra, so I effectively see it as a freebie small tablet with an expensive phone.
The crease is still far too noticable for me. That and the outrageous price that some of these things close when they eventually make it to the shelves with the "Australia tax" applied to it.
The flips smaller size is awesome, but I think that positive is offset by the annoyance of having to open the phone the every time.
The fold I could see myself buying in a later gen. Once the hinge and screen are through a few more iterations I think I’ll buy one. The huge screen is just so nice. But folded up it shouldn’t be much heavier, larger, thicker than a normal phone, I already think modern phones are way too big as it is.
That’s kind of the magic of the flip, it forces you to purposefully decide to open your phone, so for some folks thats a benefit! Being more present in everyday life is something I was focusing on when I was considering the flip for my next phone. I ended up with a fold for other reasons, but that was one of the best benefits I was considering.
I typically buy last generation refurbished. I was able to get the Samsung Galaxy s22 Ultra for sub $800. The last generation Fold is still over $1000. I need the cool-factor to calm down so the old ones are cheaper.
doesn’t provide a benefit for me for the tradeoffs in smaller battery size, screen size, lower water resistence, lower durability, no open source documentation/parts to enable comsumer repairability
Until they make the protective screen durable up to lvl 5 scratches without dmg, ip 68 protection, flat front side without slightly risen bezels so I can comfortably use gestures, even the battery size and camera capabilities with normal flagships and the price of course, it’s a nono for me. 🤔 Otherwise overpriced gimmick…
To contrast some of the comments here from people who’ve clearly never used one of these foldables outside of a display case, I’ve had my Fold 3 (the larger folding tablet style) for two years. I came from the Note and S lines, Windows Phone, and have bounced between iPhones. My Fold 3 is in great shape and has survived many falls. It’s definitely durable enough for me. I take care of it, but I get that some people don’t desire to take care of their devices and expect them to be exceedingly durable. Never had anything under the screen. Never take it to the beach unless it’s in a sealed ziplock. I take care not to put it in dusty environments or let sawdust or shavings get into it (hobbies).
Unfolded, it’s better than any other phone out there. Viewing videos enlarged or widescreen is great depending on video and application. During normal usage, the crease is not noticable enough to be a distraction unless viewed from a severe angle (think the person sitting next to you). Unfolded scrolling of Lemmy, the internet, and reading is a better experience than anything else out there - bar none, no argument. The screen is just huge and viewing websites in mobile or desktop is fantastic. It makes the web actually useable from a mobile device. I never use my Galaxy Tab anymore. Samsung does a pretty good job software-wise adapting apps to fit the foldable aspect ratio if a guveb app doesn’t officially support it. More apps are supporting foldables every day.
I would agree with the sentiment that the Z Flip line likely has a more gimmicky purpose. At least the Fold line functions as a tablet and is a decent phone folded up. At least, that is my experience with a Z Flip 3 before swapping for a Fold 3. But I’ll be buying foldables exclusively from here on out. After using the Fold 3 for two years, I can say it’s folding screen is definitely NOT a gimmick.
The question wether flips/folds are gimmicky or useful is a very personal one: I.e. for me the foldables seem excessive and flip phones finaly a way to get smaller phones.
Started with the Surface Duo 2, if you count it, and now I’m using the Galaxy Z Fold 4.
I suppose I could also count the LG G8x too, possibly?
So many because my company buys phones for me every couple years and I like the flexibility of the folding screen. I’m convinced that anyone who says they don’t want one just hasn’t used one yet. It makes such a huge difference to my mobile experience honestly. Games, documents, multitasking, web browsing, media consumption… It’s all so much better on a device that folds in half lol.
What is the benefit? What improvement does it offer? What is the point of introducing a weakness and simultaneous single point failure in exchange for a phone with a smaller, less durable screen, has a fatter form factor, and makes it more difficult to use to do all the things I actually use my phone for?
Flip phones existed as a way to easily answer and end calls. They went away when touch screens became a more convenient and versatile means of using a device. Nobody talks on the phone anymore. I don’t even have my phone app on my home screen.
Coincidentally, I’ve been looking at these as I’m due a new phone soon.
The flip 5 style has no value apart from gimmick as far as I can see. It goes in your pocket in a smaller height which might be of use to some people but that’s about it. Same volume of phone, same size of screen.
The Fold 5 style makes a lot more sense to me. You get a phone the same size as a normal one (roughly) but then a screen twice sized normal (roughly). I’m sure not everyone is interested in that, but there’s definitely a practical value there for some.
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