I am not enjoying kbin.social right now. The latency is beyond atrocious, at 10+ seconds to load each page. The UI reminds me of 2004 forums that don’t know how users work. The mobile UI is just the worst.
Some pain points:
I’m a software engineer so I can figure this shit out, but how the hell do I subscribe to a magazine? If I go to it, there should be a “subscribe” or context menu at the top to subscribe/favorite/mute
Why is the comment box all the way at the bottom? Where’s the “add comment” button on a post?
Why are comments paginated like a forum? Why not just a “load more” like Reddit? What’s the point?
Selecting the comment box should NOT zoom slightly into the page. The mobile web UI needs a lot of work from people who know how to do mobile UIs.
Is there no “homepage” button? Clicking the Kbin logo at the top just brings up a menu, which requires another click on the homepage button to get back.
Edit: And you can't collapse comment threads? What even...
I really want a Reddit replacement, but this is not it with this terrible UI. It’s unusable, literally–if I can’t subscribe to a magazine then it’s not working.
•They want to encourage people reading before posting first, but there are style sheets you can apply to move the comment box. Really, kbin just needs a service like RES so people can adjust things to their tastes
•Because it's not Reddit?
•Yeah, some fixing needs to be done
The great thing about it being federated though is that you can find a community that better fits your needs, and still get the content from here
I can definitely see how that’s all frustrating, and I’m sure we all have our experiences with lag or with that goddamn Cloudflare verification or whatever, but I hope you and everyone else will stick around so we can help shape this space the way we want it. You’re already doing that with your comment above. Imagine the almost impossible chances of making suggestions to Reddit and having changes made. At least here that’s a possibility. I hope to see you around.
While I know it'd be nice for us to just have a breezy experience where all our expectations played out before us with a snap of the fingers, please try and remember this site has been here like one single month, and the dude who's running things managed to accommodate like 120000! new members signing in yesterday. It's slow because it's new and we're all donating money to get this ramped up as quickly as possible.
Just have some grace, and some sympathy, and maybe even some patience.
Personally I'm not here for a slick interface and lightning fast performance. Those things can be fixed. I'm here for the community -- that's something Reddit doesn't have, and can never be fixed.
My thoughts on this is that things shouldn't be changed to conform with how Reddit did things.
I saw people saying that default settings need to be changed because that's what Reddit people would expect by default and it's like .... How about no?
I'm part of the migration (Saturday), but I don't want this to become Digg3.0! I want it to be better and its own thing.
Now, those settings I was talking about (basically who/what you follow is shown to others by default), I fully think those settings should be changed by default, but not because that's how reddit did it, but because it's a good idea (imho).
We've also got to keep in mind that KBin is basically a one man operation right now and not a company with 2000 people and expectations need to go through that filter first. This site is fucking amazing with that in mind and I think if you just look at it as Reddit 2.0 it's easy to forget the achievements that Ernest has made.
/r/politics, /r/blackpeopletwitter, /r/whitepeopletwitter, /r/til, /r/tifu, /r/aita, /r/askreddit and all sorts of trans/terf/whatever activism should stay on reddit.
It might not seem necessary, but Reddit was extremely hostile to minorities when those subs were created. There are parts of Reddit that remained hostile until the very end. If it turns out that it's necessary here, then it's necessary here, but a lot of those hostile elements are hopefully going to go off to voat or whatever.
AFAIK /kbin is pretty new, even more so than Lemmy, I've been here for some days and the explosion of users is honestly insane, but also pretty exciting to see.
Also the users that have migrated so far have been "high quality" and really friendly, in my opinion users like you, like us, are pretty much the base of what /kbin will be.
We have to keep in mind that this site is not Reddit and probably never will be, but that's what I like the most about it.
Yeah, more or less. I've been on the fediverse for a little bit, but about a month ago it was mainly just the dev Ernest posting to himself. The fact that this is still in prototype phase and working as well as it does is frankly amazing. Timing wasn't great with reddit imploding now, since it's a bit trial by fire, but I'm really excited about where we're going.
I spent like an hour going back and forth about whether to keep the original spelling, number, and multiple underscores in my old name because that was just how my main always was and I haven't had a non-numeric handle in decades.
Suddenly realized the sheer specificity of it meant googling my user could easily find the most ancient stuff, got creeped out, dropped it immediately. Now all anyone who tries to find me is getting is Victorian era poetry and pictures of plants.
None of the communities I actually need ever migrated here; most people just did not care. I still go to reddit for things relating to Japanese residency topics, finances, etc. as it is the only place I know of. I only visit those subs, though.
There are also people like me who post like one thing a year (though I comment much more).
Are you sure about that? They take up valuable real estate that could be better served promoting active magazines. Having a good portion of the home page filled up with empty links is not helpful at best.
While I do have it with me at all times and use it regularly, I am always able to put it down and focus on whatever else is happening. It is used to fill in the boring parts of the day, and sometimes I just don't use it for a day or two even if it is with me.
I do get nervous when it is away from me, but that is because it seems like I am most needed when I can't be reached.
Also gen X and still remember when I missed out on stuff as a kid because I wasn't around a land line.
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