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lixus98, in Now that you've used Lemmy and /kbin which do you prefer and why?
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There's multiple things to consider, both are great options, but right now I'm liking kbin more for these reasons:

  • Better algorithm, when I go to my homepage I feel that the site is full of new, active content, where people are having discussions.
  • Integration with Mastodon, I like to take a peek from time to time on the Microblog tab.
  • No feed bug. Lemmy has a problem where it would show every single new post on top of the feed (I know this is being fixed)

Overall both Lemmy and kbin are in their infancy and I expect both to get better to a point where choosing between them won't come down to which one of the two have less bugs, and more focused in the features and appearance you want, this ofc will change with the many apps being developed, since they will be vastly different.
I might end up in Lemmy or I might stay on kbin, it depends which one feels more "active" to me.

Tight-laced, in You just won One Billion Dollars, what are you buying?
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  1. Buy a big mansion/estate somewhere quiet in Scotland
  2. Hire staff and carers
  3. Fill mansion with the CFS/ME sufferers who are in awful situations and give them somewhere safe/peaceful to exist.
  4. Rinse and repeat to how many such facilities that much money can support.
  5. Leave enough in trust to keep the facilities open.
rosatherad, in Why do some people have a extreme hate for Furries?
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It's a knee-jerk disgust reaction towards any group different from the norm. Furries are also overwhelming queer, so homophobia ties a lot into it.

pasci_lei, in Why do some people have a extreme hate for Furries?
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I don't hate them, I just find them weird. Because furry culture seems to be mostly populated by homosexual males, I am basically not interested in it.

Alexmitter, (edited )
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We do have heterosexuals and bisexuals. According to surveys only around 50% of us are homosexuals. We also have a astonishingly high amount of Aspergers.

lemonflavoured, in You just won One Billion Dollars, what are you buying?
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Property. What I then do with it can be decided later.

lemonflavoured, in Why do some people have a extreme hate for Furries?
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They're seen as acceptable targets, and the fandom doesn't exactly have the best history of dealing with problematic members.

It goes a bit far though, obviously, given the whole "were subject to a literal chemical weapons attack and no one cared" thing.

Sylveon-Z, in You just won One Billion Dollars, what are you buying?
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I would try to found my own payment processor/credit card company that would be more NSFW-friendly. Apparently all the payment processors hate porn/nsfw which is why sites like to try to ban it so much. I want NSFW content creators to have a home too.

dreadedchalupacabra, in You just won One Billion Dollars, what are you buying?
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Everyone's all "stuff to make world peace!" but I'm gonna be honest with y'all.

A lot of old video games. Like a catastrophic amount of them.

Cylusthevirus,
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Well what would you do with the remaining 99.99% of your wealth?

Sylveon-Z, in Why do some people have a extreme hate for Furries?
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It's cringe culture, the same reason people make fun of weebs or anyone else who goes outside of the "norm". There's also the issue that some people think that it's too childish or too sexual (or both at once, somehow)

HeartyBeast, in What country do you recommend for visiting?
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Which county are you from? Do you speak any other languages (being able to speak to locals can change the experience immeasurably). What are your interests and hobbies?

Saturdaycat, in Why do some people have a extreme hate for Furries?
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When we ask people to try to understand something that is outside of their close social norms, hate soon follows unfortunately. People fear and hate "the others" that they do not understand themselves. It goes deeper than that, but it's usually where it starts.

Noremac, in You just won One Billion Dollars, what are you buying?
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I'd do all the things that most people would do. Pay off debts, help out family/friends, invest, donate, etc.

Other than that, I'd buy a castle. Something like this. Living in such an old place like that with all the history associated with it seems really cool to me.

PabloDiscobar, in Now that you've used Lemmy and /kbin which do you prefer and why?
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I tried lemmy, I've been lectured about "orientalism", Zelensky was constantly trashed talked about. Enough is enough...I left lemmy for kbin.

It's not about the technology, it's about the community. I prefer to restart from scratch on kbin.

can,

Christ, what instance did you sign up on? Lemmygrad?

AFKBRBChocolate,

I'm confused, isn't it the same content?

PabloDiscobar,
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No, it's not the same content. Lemmy was up way before kbin. And lemmy has slowly built a community parallel to reddit. There can be new instances of lemmy, but you can be certain that they brought in all the old guard of other lemmy instances lemmy. kbin? Probably not so much. kbin mostly brought in the old guard of reddit.

It's not the same people posting and commenting the article. The protocol is the same though. I can clearly see the difference anyway.

Gex,

Don't really know how kbin works. Is it one single instance? Anyhow it definitely is the same content to some degree because we are talking with each other right now.

Cloudless,
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It is the same content when you subscribe to the same communities. I avoid all communities hosted by lemmy.ml because of the tankie devs.

Kichae,

You can see all of those same users on kbin, too, though. You can access those same communities from here on kbin.social.

It's really only Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad.ml that have aggressive Chinese apologists on them. There's a whole pile of Lemmy instances out there that care way, way more about Beehaw than China.

SkyNTP,

I blocked lemmygrad, as I did see those extreme posts, but I haven’t seen any of what is described here in Lemmy.ml.

maporita,

So what? Are your beliefs so fragile that you can’t risk them being challenged?

I prefer a community where everyone is free to say what they want without risk of being censored. Apparently I’m in the minority on that one.

PabloDiscobar,
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So what? Are your beliefs so fragile that you can’t risk them being challenged?

I debate all the time, but I won't do it under their moderation.

I prefer a community where everyone is free to say what they want without risk of being censored.

Nonono....See what you wrote on lemmyworld:

If you are so fragile that you need to be protected from a troll then maybe the internet is not the right place for you.

It's a different ballpark than what you are presenting here. Here you are all polished, in favor of freedom of speech, but on lemmy you are in defense of trolling. It's "lemmyworld", ladies and gentlemen, it's not lemmy.ml level yet.

BraveSirZaphod,
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I prefer a community where everyone is free to say what they want without risk of being censored.

Do you, actually? If you joined a book club in the real world, for instance, and everyone around you was constantly going on about the Jewish problem and why slavery really wasn't that bad and why women are useless for anything but housework, would that be a place where you want to spend your time? Would you be a coward with fragile beliefs if you decided to go somewhere else? Would it be horrendous censorship if you wanted rules for basic respect and decorum as generally exist in normal society? If someone followed you around all day constantly challenging every thing you ever said, would you really not find that at least mildly annoying?

Just because one might not want it to be illegal to state opinions, that doesn't mean that people can't appreciate at least some common understanding of a space's purpose and rules for discourse. Real wold communities almost never allow unlimited speech, because that can get extremely disruptive very quickly. I don't understand why people think that online spaces must be so radically different.

Lantech, in You just won One Billion Dollars, what are you buying?
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probably a personal submarine

bevan,

don’t forget to call safety regulations obscene

curiosityLynx, in Why do some people have a extreme hate for Furries?

My guess is that they confuse furries with people who are sexually attracted to animals or animal characteristics.

In reality, furries are people who partially or fully identify with what native people would have called their spirit animal and modern furries call their fursona (except with more or less human features, because they meld what they see as their spirit animal with their human self).

But because drawings of fursonae exist, rule 34 ensures that there is porn of them. Some people really like that kind of porn, unrelated to whether they're furries or not, and I believe it is those people the hate is directed at.

As for why, I would guess it's something like "how dare you sexualise animals!" (or maybe even a subconscious "how dare you make a drawing of what I believe is supposed to be an animal that is actually sexy to me!", similar to how some conservatives are so vehemently against homosexuality because they secretly feel tempted, and then get caught at a gay orgy later). And/or they see it as something like a gateway drug to bestiality (sexual abuse towards animals).

fbievan,
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really furries are the extension of anthropomorphism

Nepenthe,
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But because drawings of fursonae exist, rule 34 ensures that there is porn of them. Some people really like that kind of porn, unrelated to whether they're furries or not, and I believe it is those people the hate is directed at.

This would be my opinion. I'm neutral towards furries; I am not neutral towards the flood of porn that seems to make up the majority of my every (and often only) contact with the furry community and I'm honestly surprised that wouldn't be the obvious answer. Do I get to see how those suits are crafted? No, I've never seen that. Saw a tiger getting railed in an elevator yesterday, though.

It's really not doing me any favors in the fediverse right now. I shouldn't have to voluntarily search "yiff" every few days just to search for new things to preemptively block and I can't turn NSFW off, either, without banning myself from my own medical subs.

Alexmitter,
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This would be my opinion. I'm neutral towards furries; I am not neutral towards the flood of porn that seems to make up the majority of my every (and often only) contact with the furry community and I'm honestly surprised that wouldn't be the obvious answer. Do I get to see how those suits are crafted?

Those suits are incredibly expensive and they are trade secrets to the people who make them as they want to protect their market. Generally some people have them, and it may look like its the final goal of everyone in the community to own one of their character, but its not. Its a tiny amount of people who both want one and can effort the at least 20k€, like just a head costs around 5k€.

No, I've never seen that. Saw a tiger getting railed in an elevator yesterday, though.
It's really not doing me any favors in the fediverse right now. I shouldn't have to voluntarily search "yiff" every few days just to search for new things to preemptively block and I can't turn NSFW off, either, without banning myself from my own medical subs.

I see this as a general issue that magazines/communities can not be generally set as NSFW, only individual posts and people sometimes forget that. And you are not alone with that, I am also suffer from that because I would rather not see naked female ass in All. It is always something that annoys people if they see porn they do not like but do not pretend like you are the only one that is victim to that.

Nepenthe, (edited )
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Those suits are incredibly expensive and they are trade secrets to the people who make them as they want to protect their market.

That makes a lot of sense now that you say it, but I'm still gonna be sad about it. I really like crafting videos these days.

I see this as a general issue that magazines/communities can not be generally set as NSFW, only individual posts and people sometimes forget that. And you are not alone with that, I am also suffer from that because I would rather not see naked female ass in All.

You...can, though? I can with mine, anyway. Is that something only kbin can do right now, or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

Not that it makes much of a difference for people who want more granular nsfw settings. Still really waiting on those, I think adding auto-tagging to submissions and then presenting the ability to filter by tag is a fantastic idea that would really solve a ton. I literally have to do the same with sports that I have to do for porn subs in order to get them out of my feed and they just keep proliferating every time someone subs to or spins up a new instance. I know past a certain point bitching about all topics being in All is dumb, but blocking doesn't accomplish as much as it should right now just due to the nature of the fediverse.

Admittedly, if you're someone who doesn't mind porn in All as long as it's your fetish, it would be easier to whitelist things at that point. There'd have to be a whole menu and everything, which I'm sure is doable. For furries, monster fuckers, etc., this would necessitate a "human porn" tag to enter wide use and I don't ever see that happening, so they and they alone are stuck blocking nsfw and subbing directly.

Alexmitter,
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You...can, though? I can with mine, anyway. Is that something only kbin can do right now, or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

If, then its new, but the main community having adult furry content is using lemmy.

Admittedly, if you're someone who doesn't mind porn in All as long as it's your fetish, it would be easier to whitelist things at that point.

I generally do not want to see porn in All, neither human porn nor furry gay porn. It the one thing that does not belong in All. All is to learn about new content, and you are not gonna start to like furry gay porn and I am not going to start to like naked female ass. Porn is a individual thing and I believe everyone knows what he or she wants and follows the magazines/communities that offer that without having to discover it in all.

Alexmitter,
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What is interesting to me is, yes sure unconventional ideas in porn are something people easily find rage for, yet that is not the issue for that friend of mine. He himself can be called unconventional in that regard. He really just hates the idea of antro furry in general.

As a homosexual that rage is something I am well too familiar already as that it would bother me.

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