There is a legal answer to the question, and the answer is yes, it would continue to be the same ship, at least according to Lloyds of London.

In philosophical terms, also the same boat. It has continued to exit as something we would recognise as a ship throughout, and has not been modified, merely repaired.


What if I take all of the pieces that were removed, and put them back together? Would that be a different boat?


It would be a new boat, yes. The component parts are older, but it has existed as something we would consider a boat for a shorter amount of time.

mriormro, avatar


_lilith, avatar

That “modern embellishment” is not a great example. It changes the context of the ship’s existence from a physical entity to a legal entity. I like the thought experiment but if you keep changing basic definitions it will get you less than nowhere


I think that’s literally the joke

_lilith, avatar

The literal joke is that the article has become an example of the very thing it describes, and perhaps a better example than the modern embellishment example


I like the implication of this, but I wonder are there none of the same words that haven’t just been shunted around?


Knowing Wikipedia it’s probably just the same three guys making changes and trying to claim it as their territory.


Everything is just a rehash of the dictionary if u think about it

Toribor, avatar

Conceptually similar, a couple of guys wrote software to create every possible eight note melody and successfully received a copyright for the collection as a means to protect future musicians from lawsuits claiming copyright infringement.


I bet they’re rich from all of the royalties.


Are two boards that are of exact dimensions but different spot the same board or different boards?


Here’s my take:

If you take a board and split it into any amount of pieces, they’re all the same board, just in pieces.

If you take a board and put it somewhere else on the ship it’s the same board.

If you have two boards which were manufactured as they are now, (ie they were cut into their desired shape and considered complete boards), even if they’re the same size and from the same tree, they are different boards.

A board becomes its own distinct entity once cut from its source wood with intention to make a board and is considered complete (ready to use).


If you delete a sentence, and re type it, is it the same sentence? What about if you copy and paste it somewhere else in the article?


so you’re saying it’s a different article now?

Kalkaline, avatar

But at what point did it become a different article?


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