While I am posting from a lemmy account (because I didn’t know about kbin when I made it) if I was to host one of the two it would be kbin. The reason is that lemmy has some hardcoded moderation things inside it that I disapprove of. I believe I should be able to say anything I want without fear of being censored on my own self hosted instance and this comes from a leftist, I don’t want to use bad words to insult people, but if I want to use them in a different context I want to be able to. If I see an argument between a bigot and a fellow lgbtq and the bigot calls my comrade with a slur I want to be able to describe the situation using the exact words used. I think maybe it’s a cultural difference thing, where I live using slurs in a context where we describe a situation rather than for insulting someone it’s not seen as a bad thing. We don’t give those words so much power and importance to the point that even just saying the words makes people gasp. I believe that censoring some words by default without even considering the context they are being used in doesn’t help, I believe it just gives the words more power while we should aim to take power away from them.
The “slur filter” was causing so much arguing that the devs stopped hard coding it. Now the whoever is running the instance can choose any or no filter.
Kbin includes some mastodon/twitter-like functionality. It also makes public what you vote for and the interface is subjectively nicer. It also have PWA support for the main websites.
However, it doesn’t have app support right now. There’s significantly more development on that front with Lemmy.
Just so that nobody gets confused, it gets constantly synced, not just at the end of the day. That’s just an unfortunate use of a common saying in this case. :)
Lol! Also worthing noting that federation is not yet working perfectly, and there are legitimate reasons why your choice of instance matters a great deal.
Many instances are not yet properly configured and there is a real barrier to joining and participating in communities on other servers. This is a good thing, because it means that Lemmy can get even better in the future.
That’s the neat part: We’re all browsing the same content.
People who call this whole thing complicated are just, I dunno, incapable of understanding the concept of logging in? It doesn’t matter what door you go in, it’s all (mostly) the same room.
It’s actually a copy of the original room, and there are invisible goblins synchronising all objects in the rooms so that it looks like the same room. They are also moving mannequins so that they match the movements of all the people in the other rooms.
To us it looks and feels like the same room with the same objecs and same people, so it doesn’t really matter.
But sometimes an admin might order that the goblins must not sync one specific room anymore. Then you start to notice differences depending on which door (=room) you actually use.
I’m not trying to make it sound bad. Else I’d have used something like “maliciously” or whatever. I’m just trying say that sometimes you might actually see differences (e.g. beehaw.org communities on lemmy.world after defederation), and this is only possible because there are multiple rooms and not just one (with this analogy).
I wouldnt say incapable. Before I joined I was unsure about this whole federation thing as well. I was worried that I have to sign up to multiple instances (and this is actually not untrue, because of defederation) but I worried too much. It’s a lot easier than I imagined
Yeah, before I got into this Fediverse thingy, I too thought that I would have to create bazillions of accounts across different servers and that this is a terrible “business model.” Look where I am now, with a matrix account, lemmy account, and a mastodon account and all the Fedi-thingies. We need to somehow let people understand how the Fediverse works better.
There’s a difference between “incapable of understanding” and “doesn’t have enough background information to understand.” Are there people who can’t understand certain tech concepts? Absolutely. But there are a lot more people who just miss the first rung on the ladder, and can’t make it to the top. They can understand when they get the explanation from the ground up, but until then, they’re stuck.
I see it happen a lot when tech people try to explain something that is brand new to the listener, because when you are already able to understand something at a high level, you forget to mention the first several rungs. It’s usually a great explanation, it’s just not an explanation the person on the ground can use.
…also, I don’t think it’s failure to understand login when every instance asks for a separate login if you don’t navigate there through your own instance. It’s a misunderstanding that results from experiencing the fediverse without understanding how it works, not a failure to grasp an abstract concept.
To me, Kbin isn’t really ready to be used by the average person. I get a lot of error messages and many communities are missing, no matter which Kbin instance I choose. I’ll move to Kbin when it’s a little more fleshed out. For now, I’ll stick to Lemmy.
Is kbin not just another Lemmy instance? I keep seeing people mention it alongside Lemmy like it’s something different, but it doesn’t seem to be when I look.
Oh, hey! I’m the guy behind tedd.it. Didn’t really expect to see it here, but thank you for the mention!
I’ve been running tedd.it for just about over a year now, and it’s heartbreaking for me to end it this way. tedd.it was the choice of thousands for a safer, simpler, more private way to browse reddit. I’m a big online privacy advocate, so hosting this instance was a mission for me more than anything: to help others improve their privacy, even if just a little bit.
Sadly, with how much traffic tedd.it is seeing, there is no way I could possibly pay for API access. Even with lots of caching, we’re speaking tens of thousands of dollars at least. With the site constantly rate-limited now, there’s no point in keeping it up - it’s not exactly cheap to host, even before the API changes. I had to make this difficult choice.
It’s worth mentioning that tedd.it is just one instance of the teddit project. Obviously I don’t speak for the entire project, but from conversations I had with other hosts I believe the feelings are mutual. The project is already kinda stale with the maintainer very low on activity, and Reddit’s third party apps ban feels like the final nail in the coffin.
I’m a big supporter of the Fediverse. I think it’s our best attempt at building a better social media for everyone. I’m already on Mastodon and now with reddit going rogue I figured I could use the reach of tedd.it to help more people find their home here.
And for those who asked: why Lemmy? It’s just my personal preference. Kbin is also great! I just found Lemmy more user friendly personally. But hey, that’s the beauty of the Fediverse: we’re all allies here ❤️
Thanks again for the spotlight. Feel free to ask any questions you might have! Cheers ✌️
Thanks a lot. I mostly used tedd.it over the last year maybe more. Was always more stable than teddit.net. is there a way to thank you for your work? E.g. buymeacoffee or something like that?
I also have a question: Do you think self hosted teddit will continue to work for the next years? As I understand it it dosent reach the api limit and is therefore still useable.
Thank you! I appreciate the support. I don’t have anything like buymeacoffee but I still really appreciate it.
As for self hosting, under the current API terms it should be fine as long as you are the only user and use an API key. You’re still likely to encounter some 429s but it won’t cripple your experience entirely.
You all need to find the courage to close with reddit forever. It’s done, don’t you see it? Everything was taken away from apps to moderators power, purge of old messages, and soon the reward system. What this suppost to mean? What else will be removed? It is in falldown.
Luckily I won’t be there to see it because I no longer give a fuck about Reddit whatsoever. It sucks that much of the knowledge contained there will ultimately die, but we must build anew. It has been a learning experience that hopefully enough of us have taken to heart that a new and better way of doing things will stick.
I am following subreddits related to Gamestop stock and BBBY stock.
Also, there are a bunch of very niche subreddits that haven’t even got single-user communities here yet… I play somewhat obscure musical genres and instruments and nobody in those subreddits are talking about Lemmy except for me 😕
I thought I’d miss that sub, but I’m a bassist with a PBass into a Fuzzrocious Demon with the gate/boost mod going into my Mesa 400. I literally stopped looking at those posts because I don’t need to go anywhere else with my tone these days and I don’t give a shit if anyone is overpaying for a Bad Monkey. Reaching this state is quite freeing
I would like to, but the fact is lemmy is 99% shitposts and memes. Don’t get me wrong, I like that stuff but I also need to know wtf is going on in the world. Since losing rif and refusing to use the official app, I am now basically getting news when my wife sees it on Facebook, which means it’s old news by then.
Precisely. Sharing your finds and commenting on what others have found is the ideal situation. When only 1% post content, and slightly more comment, it is easy to game the system - like Reddit and these other “socials”. Lemmy’s robustness will be a function of its people.
You’ll have to look for the ‘block community’ button. Depending on the UI you’re using, this can be in different places.
In Lemmy’s default UI, you first click the part under the title identifying the community under which it was posted. Let’s say it was posted under [email protected]. What you do is:
On a phone app, the process may be less cumbersome. On Thunder, an Android app, you just have to click and hold the post, wait until a menu appears, and then select ‘block community’.
It’s a process. Memes are the lowest common denominator, will get a lot of ppl on the site, then small communities will grow. Some are already useful, I curate a list that I follow and see when I open my app, and I can already see world news like the Italy heatwave, actor strike, etc. at the top. Not perfect, but already beter than 1 week ago.
The reality is that the shitpost and meme communities will be the ones that give birth to the niche communities we need to thrive. It’s easy, low-effort, but fun-enough and engaging enough to get people through the door.
I get my news from the AP and I’m very happy with it. It’s one of the few apps that I allow push notifications for so I don’t even need to check the app to get the top headlines, I just tap on the ones that look interesting and clear the rest.
I’m hoping the quality of the content will grow over time. I don’t even give a shit about porn but right now it’s like half this place is posts about wet pussies and subs about ass and it’s grossing me the fuck out. I’ve been curating so it’s getting better but still
They should’ve done it during the protests. Either actually threaten to walk out or engage in malicious compliance like r/PICS, even if Reddit does replace them with paid moderators, and direct people to alternatives.
Been using teddit for like a month and absolutely loved it, too bad it’s shutting down. Any chance to make old.reddit look more like teddit? (better spacing, more minimalistic look)?
Yes, lemmy does not work for non-techy stuff. Sometimes I want to look up random stuff like getting the best sim plan for international travel or what are the best apps for tracking weight lifting workouts. That kind of stuff is not available if the mainstream is not here. And thus reddit is unfortunately still needed.
That is actually the one I have been using too! But I always keep searching for if there are better ones. Progression would be perfect if they added exercise images, since I am a visual person, and tend to forget how an exercise is done.
Would love to see the developer to move his discussion to Lemmy.
That’s not strictly true, now. I found a good fountain pen community, and a few for knitting and embroidery, among other analog interests. Not everything is here, but the non-tech stuff is starting to trickle in.
It’s frustrating when so often techy people produce something but don’t go the slight extra distance to anticipate the needs of normal people getting inducted into using the software. You see it all the time.
You can first build something you like using yourself, but at some point you should start holding it under the nose of various well-meaning not-so-techy people and watch how they try to use it.
Same here! I’ve been enjoying Connect as an experience but I am looking forward to Sync for Lemmy. It’s actually the whole reason I came here. I was going to just give up once sync shut down but Lemmy has been a nice transition.
Teddit went out in style with that message. Thank you dev, I used teddit often. Forgive me keeping the bookmark on my toolbar just for a few more days.
tedd.it is not the only teddit instance, nor even one i knew, with the main one being teddit.net. that being said its heavily unusable in its current state without running your own personal instance to stay under the api limits codeberg.org/teddit/teddit … that being said, screw that noise, im here instead.
The shutdown notice you link to only concerns the tedd.it instance not teddit as a project. Of course the other instances face the same issues though, so these alternate reddit fronts will probably still take a huge hit in user interest and development or even wind down since spinning up your own instance is to much hassle for a lot of people.
Yup! I don’t speak for all of teddit, just my instance. Although many of the other hosts I talked to feel the same - at the end of the day, the API changes don’t leave us much of a choice. Public instances are practically impossible now.
Really annoyed by Reddit. First they take away Apollo. Then I started using Teddit last week. Now that’s gone too. I am not visiting their website or downloading their app.
Is there an archived website that I can redirect Reddit links to like you could do with Teddit? Then no api is needed.
this is just one of the instances
there are many more instances according to farside.link (which is a thing that will automatically redirect you to one of them: farside.link/teddit/ ) so by using this, you help reduce the load on individual instance, resulting in less “too many requests” errors for everyone.
The problem still stands, I tried just now a few of those randomly redirected instances, and they’re all still giving Error 429 (Rate Limited). Reddit is on a horrible war path here and realistically the only way out is to just cut oneself off now.
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