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Sanctus, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?
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They’re being targeted for constant DDoS attacks. Could be multiple reasons. But the takeaway should be to spread out evenly through the fediverse. Don’t all pile into .world (as I post this on my .world account).

P00Pchute,

Any recommendations other than .world?

lechatron,
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I’ve been going to sh.itjust.works. You can find a list of other instances here as well.

Aimhere,

Try to find an instance that’s local to your country or region.

Blamemeta,

Lemm.ee works

Arotrios,
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Been on kbin.social for a month and it's been pretty solid. Note it's a different platform than lemmy (designed to read both lemmy and mastodon), but does a great job posting to and handling the content from lemmy platforms. There's growing pains here too, but the uptime has been good.

tal,
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I think that the dev and some volunteers at kbin.social has done a lot of work on scaling up that instance, but even so, kbin.social will probably hit hard-to-fix scaling issues at some point. It's also a big instance, like lemmy.world.

I'd been looking at another (presently small) US-based one-person kbin instance, was planning to hop over if it stayed up to help spread load, but it looks like it went down.

I suppose that once a number of instances have a track record of staying up for N months and with their uptime records established, it'll be easier to figure out what instances are good alternatives, are likely around for the long haul, and which ones will vanish in the wind.

Arotrios,
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You're right, and one of the reasons I decided to start a community here was because @ernest has done a fantastic job laying out the plans for scale at kbin (both the instance and the platform as a whole) thus far - detail here. Thus far he's the only instance owner I've seen with a real roadmap, and actively applying for grant funding to cover scaling costs. It's good to see - kbin is definitely his baby and he takes great care of it.

Regarding other small kbin instances, you might look at kglitch.social. @kglitch has made some frontend changes that bring it more in line with Mastodon and Lemmy, and I haven't seen an outage yet.

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

come join us at startrek.website

henfredemars,

I know nothing of Star Trek but after watching the newer Kahn movie I was inspired to watch starting from the modernized episode 1.

What I’m saying is–yes.

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed.

Startrek.website and sh.itjust.works are the other two legs of my Lemmy Tripod.

Rhaedas,
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

Lemmy Explorer can help give a big picture view of what's out there, both in instances and in communities. Kbin instances are also viewable, you have to select them from the top right menu.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Lemmings.world - so far a small instance with big heart!

dbilitated,
@dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

just find a regional one run by a committed nerd

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Probably those ultra right-wingers from that recently defederated instance being the adult man-children they always are.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

It could be tbut the most recent de-federation controversy didn’t involve a right wing instance.

IlliteratiDomine,
@IlliteratiDomine@infosec.pub avatar

IIRC these rolling DOS attacks started before the most recent defed, though. They’ve been happening for a while.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

They were indeed but that doesn’t mean its only one group doing this.

ieightpi,

I know it’s easy to blame the alt right for everything, but the hexbear community was a communist community.

Decoy321,

I thought the most recent one was those skinheads taking over rammy. I figure there’s going to be quite a few defederating examples going on.

ieightpi,

Oh I didn’t hear about that one

MaxVerstappen,

It wasn’t really newsworthy, just an abandoned instance hijacked by a handful of nutjobs.

meldroc,

Are they the same neo-nazi chuds from that detonating craniums instance that everyone de-fedded?

Astroturfed,

The most recent two I saw were Nazi racist/anti-lgbt folks.

dimspace,
@dimspace@lemmy.world avatar

there was a defed with a bunch of tankies, and they were openly discussing on their instance doing and having done ddos attacks

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

The Rammy thing? Many of the objectionable posts there were by the exact same person from exploding heads.

Pratai,

Right wingers aren’t smart enough to coordinate something like that.

Rhaedas,
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The big reason for being a target is the size. Why attack smaller ones with less effect? Like making a virus for anything besides Windows. But maybe the long term benefit is the movement of some to other instances, balancing out the loads.

Sanctus,
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The DDoS is coming from inaide the server 👀

ArchmageAzor, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?
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My guess, some loveless planarian with a botnet felt they didn’t get enough attention from mommy and decided to hit .world with a couple DDOS attacks.

TheOneWithTheHair, to asklemmy in Why is there no community devoted to vinly preservation?
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step 1: go here: lemmy.world

step 2: press the Create Community button

step 3: name it.

Bianca_0089, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?

One claim is DDOS attacks, another claim is that the servers are too small for the massive amount of people that recently adopted lemmy

I’d love to know which is true just because … . . it’s fun to know details

fiat_lux,

Massive amounts of organic traffic to too small a server technically is a DDOS, even if unintentional rather than malicious. So, both to varying degrees, probably?

MoreThanCorrect,

Isn’t that what was termed the reddit hug of death?

fiat_lux,

It was indeed, but maybe with a slightly different nuance of 'going viral' - still a DDOS.

marcos,

The numbers are quite open at the maintenance community. Unless most users just decide to visit it together every day, there’s a DDoS going on.

RavenFellBlade,
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It’s DDOS. The admins for World have explicitly said so, and even said exactly how the attacks have been perpetrated by exploiting calls that require a lot of processing time to overload the server.

lechatron, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?
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They were getting hit with a lot of DDoS attacks a week or two ago, that may still be going on. Also they took off faster than most instances so a lot of this is just growing pains.

many people have been bailing from the server

That’s not a bad thing, the content is shared between instances so you can get it on the other sites too. People going to other sites will hopefully help balance the load and possibly help with the growing pains. I haven’t created an account on another instance yet, but I’ve been visiting other instances when .world goes down.

zxo, to anarchychess in Top comment decides next move, legal or not | day 49: the factorio dude (or gal) locates a metal deposit in the south of the board and places down a system of miners which attracts biters.

zoom in a little towards the board

foggy, to asklemmy in Why is there no community devoted to vinly preservation?

Because vinyl sucks!!

On a more on topic note: Lemmy is small. We dont have the population to warrant that specific of a community, yet. I’d recommend starting by joining a community about vinyl, making posts about vinyl care, and seeing how they do. When you’re taking up a significant percentage of a larger parent topics feed, I’d say it’s time to splinter off

I’d just add that we run the risk of being extremely unappealing if we have too many communities with near 0 activity. We’re better served at the beginning having fewer, more general communities, to attract critical masses

anonymoose,
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Hear hear!

TheBlackLounge,

It’s also a problem with algorithms. Big communities drown out smaller ones because the sorting only looks at absolute numbers. Change is underway though.

wetnoodle,
@wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz avatar

All very valid points, I still just think they’re neat and I’m gonna buy more 👍

foggy,

Haha, I think Benn Jordan even says somewhere in the video that this is the only valid stance on buying vinyl. 😁

wetnoodle,
@wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz avatar

I am gonna be a lil wary about breathing while very close to my records now, I should’ve guessed there was something terrible about the big fun plastic music discs 😭 thank you for sharing the video!

Franconian_Nomad, to asklemmy in Why is there no community devoted to vinly preservation?

!vinyl is the community I‘m subscribed to.

Post your collections, we could use more interactions.

adam_y, to asklemmy in Why is there no community devoted to vinly preservation?
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Go on, start a community!

Chainweasel, to asklemmy in Why is there no community devoted to vinly preservation?

Because you haven’t started it yet?

ganksy, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?
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Growing pains. It’s ok we’ll pull through.

Quill0,
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Worse then that.

Theyre more then three times the size of the next lemmy instance which creates an attack surface.

PaulDevonUK, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?
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4 hours to post this?

DDOS? Cloudflare is supposed to stop that. I see a lot of cloudflare errors.

lemmy world status shows 292 instances in the past 8 days! Elevated response times and system resources repeated endlessly.

Insufficient RAM and CPU are my main suspicion due to explosive growth. Parts aren’t cheap but are needed.

How can we help with funding?

Subscriptions? - NO. This is not a commercial endeavour.

Donations? - Maybe. One off donations with no further commitment. Obviously, donate again if you want to.

Go Fund Me? - Possible but who sets it up. Possible fraud?

lemmyseizethemeans, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?

I left because of the executive decision to defederate from hexbear.

Deftdrummer,

Thinking about doing the same. Which instance did you go to?

lemmyseizethemeans,

Lemmygrad

Doog,

I put an application in to unilem.org (because of their non-censorship stance) and I’m using lemm.ee in the meantime.

Deftdrummer,

Sweet thanks for the info.

chrisbit,
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I’m sure there’ll be plenty of others who do the same. Really odd decision.

otter, to asklemmy in Why is there no community devoted to vinly preservation?
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There are some here, but I’m not familiar with the topic so you should judge them

lemmyverse.net/communities?query=Vinyl

If there isn’t one that fits, consider making one or taking over an existing one to change it :)

Chances are that other people are interested too but no one has taken the initiative

Blamemeta, to general in What has been up with lemmy.world lately?

How do you tell a ddos from legitimate traffic?

Reborn2966,

that’s the neat part, you don’t.

or at least, not easily.

squiblet,
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Various clues, like what URLs they are requesting, what IPs/regions it's from, if it appears to be real clients based on user agent and ability to execute javascript, and so on.

lechatron,
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It’s like a fun* little cat and mouse game, you figure out the patterns to block specific traffic, then they adapt and you start again. I even saw some users comment the other day they were being hit with false positives and blocked because the blocking was too aggressive. Fortunately there are companies that specialize in this kind of stuff like cloudflare. But that costs money so it wasn’t added until just recently, so it’s possible attacks are still getting around that.

*obnoxious

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