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Krause, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys
@Krause@lemmygrad.ml avatar

But you can still activate it with this FOSS solution: github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO

sovietknuckles,
@sovietknuckles@hexbear.net avatar

5724-line batch script scared

ColdWater, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Ahemm… MAS

jws_shadotak,

MAS is directly affected by this and doesn’t work anymore.

On their GitHub it looks like they’re looking for a way around it.

ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Hmm… interesting, I haven’t used MAS for a while because I have windows 7 OEM key stuck with my MS account I wonder if it won’t work anymore but I’m still rocking win10 anyway

Kushia, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

I wish we could just get back to an updated version of 7. Everything since has sucked.

altec,

If you don’t use any software that requires Windows, you should give Kubuntu a try. I’ve found it very easy to use, as someone coming from Windows.

pikachus_ghost_uncle, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

No problem. I’m still staying on 10 though.

brsrklf,

Yeah, same for me.

Getting rid of the automated 11 upgrade was a pain already, took me months to finally find what was making it resurface all the time.

Thing is, I wasn’t even opposed to it originally. It just didn’t work and failed systematically. And my PC wasn’t even supposed to support it, since I don’t have TPM 2.0, so no idea why it even tried.

Now with all the reports of new ways to fuck with privacy I don’t even see any reason to upgrade.

tony,

I think they removed that requirement recently… I killed the upgrade prompts originally by disabling the fTPM but they’ve come back in the last month or so.

brsrklf,

Weird. The lack of TPM 2.0 never prevented the upgrade process in my case, but once I disabled the upgrade, it didn’t come back (though I couldn’t tell you exactly what worked for me, I googled that some time ago).

However, for a while now Windows Update has been telling me my PC didn’t have the minimal requirements to execute Windows 11. Sure enough, PC health check app tells me it’s just lacking TPM. Gee, maybe it would have helped to check that before trying back then…

Johanno, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

You guys are using keys?

My first legit Windows Version I installed(not pre-installed) was when my university gave keys out for free.

Before that I used sketchy tools to activate my Windows. Since I am using Linux only my vms don’t get activated. Windows 10 runs fine without activation.

thecrotch,

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  • neshura,
    @neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

    I’ve got an unactivated VM I abuse as a server that’s been running for half a year now, no idea what you are talking about

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    windows…as a server…?

    neshura,
    @neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

    Space Engineers has no Linux Dedicated Server so I’m forced to run a Windows VM. It’s the only piece of software I’ve encountered that problem with and it boggles my mind why they chose to do that

    Johanno,

    The same reason I set up a windows vm yesterday.

    Space Engineers. There are dockers for it but since Single Player on Linux is already suffering in Performance I don’t think the server in docker on wine will perform better.

    And I used a Windows Image that I used for personal installs and never had the issue that it shutdown unactivated. Some settings aren’t available though. Nothing usually you need.

    neshura,
    @neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

    Getting Space Engineers to run on Linux is a constant experience of “Ooohh, it works. Now don’t touch anything or it’ll break!”. There are some docker containers out there that seem to work but then I’d lose the advantage of Torch and I’m not about to do that.

    Really hope they provide a Linux Server for Space Engineers 2 (I assume that is what they will work on once Vrage3 is done)

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    ah, i assumed a web server. it’s ok for game servers i guess

    icedterminal,

    He’s actually partly correct. VMs of Windows 10 or 11 are supposed to shut down hourly if not activated. It’s been present since Windows 10 released.

    Here’s a reference in case you need one: superuser.com/…/why-does-windows-10-shut-down-hou…

    You either have the registry key unset, or are experiencing a bug of the software protection mechanism.

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    that applies to vm images only

    tony,

    I’ve got an entire set of windows test VMs running unactivated for about 4 years now. We have a few at work too (we actually have keys for those but nobody has bothered putting them in).

    The worst that happens is you can’t set a desktop background.

    icedterminal,

    What you’re describing is for bare metal Windows Server only or all editions in a VM. And that’s on purpose. You can probably guess why. Windows Home through Enterprise will run indefinitely on bare metal. It just locks down personalisation. Microsoft explicitly offers a VHD of Windows that doesn’t require activation.

    dangblingus,

    Nope. On all of my machines I installed Windows 10 using an official usb boot disk with a distro straight from Microsoft. It was 100% free, I didn’t need an account, and I’m not being prompted to activate, nor do I have the annoying little watermark in the bottom right of my screen.

    I seriously don’t understand how people are paying to use Windows when Microsoft gives it away for free.

    Trollception,

    Were those OEM machines? Often times OEM computers will come with a Windows OS license during purchase and I think Windows may check the hardware thumbprint of the machine and license it automatically. Windows 10/11 is certainly not free for people who build their own machine from parts.

    jecht360, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

    Oh no, guess the people using Windows at home will have to just settle for using the easily found Microsoft Activation Scripts!

    RHOPKINS13,

    This broke the "MAS" scripts, at least as far as HWID activation. From their website:

    Note: Microsoft servers are currently rejecting HWID activation requests when activating through MAS, we’re checking what’s going on now. Use the KMS38 activation option for now.

    asexualchangeling, (edited )

    Oh no, that messes up my future plans to have an extra SSD on my computer for dual booting so I can more easily do VR

    Oh well, I guess I don’t ever have to look at windows again, that works too

    altima_neo, (edited ) to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Not like I wanted to, my older PCs running windows 7 aren’t eligible for Windows 11 anyway

    The_Mixer_Dude,

    Try installing fresh from USB. Typically works for me on any machine that says it couldn’t install on

    TimeSquirrel,
    @TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

    It's because of the TPM shit but there are ways to bypass that in the installer. There's not that much difference in the architecture of Windows 7 v.s Windows 11, and there is theoretically nothing stopping a Win7 machine from running Win11. It's all the same since Vista anyway. That was the last major architecture revamp.

    someguy3, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

    I wonder how many there are, since it won’t run on older hardware anyway.

    wander1236,
    @wander1236@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The utility was more in being able to buy a dirt cheap Windows 7 Pro key or copy one from some old computer or disc label to activate a new computer on 10 or 11, and have it be legal.

    If you signed in with a Microsoft account, the key would also be synced to it and be able to activate a computer just by you signing in, which could be handy.

    OtisRamflow,

    I used to pull the product key stickers off parts we bought at my old job. Laptop bottom cover, with free windows 7 key. Every computer in my house is running Windows 11 pro, activated with a Windows 7 key, that was otherwise just going to get thrown away.

    ReversalHatchery,

    The article is incorrect, it hasn’t been done at the OS level, but at the online activation service

    beehaw.org/post/8271339

    ChunkMcHorkle, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.
    @ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

    On 10 right now, but honestly have had enough of the whole Windows ecosystem. (Like today I ran across a look at these exciting Windows 11 September updates! woo! aren’t you excited! video, and it was almost all embarrassingly cosmetic. Except for the part where they’re finally adding native support for archive formats (.7z, .rar, .tar) that everyone else has supported for decades: how fucking charming am I supposed to find that announcement after all these years of using 3rd party apps, when the probability of the native support being buggy as hell is very high? And that was just one example; there’s a full list in the description box.

    No thanks. It’s clear they did all this just to be able to simultaneously slather AI hooks all through the OS works, free for now but not forever, and I’m just not interested in that either. Nothing against AI, I just don’t want it integrated into my OS. I also like my privacy, believe in keeping my own shit on my own computers, and enjoy not having a significant portion of my hardware computing load dedicated to the collection and sale of my data.

    But MS isn’t the only game in town anymore. I tried some hardware-light Linux distros on a 13 year old MacBook recently just to see what the fuss is about, and was gobsmacked at how well they ran with 4GB of RAM and a slow (by today’s standards) processor. Holy shit. So I did a bit of hardware upgrading so I could run even more, and yesterday I installed Fedora 38 with KDE Plasma on that same MacBook with 16GB of RAM and a 1T SSD. It picked up every bit of that hardware on its own, too; I didn’t have to configure a thing.

    It’s almost too easy, lol. It’s Linux so I thought I was going to be overwhelmed with command line shit, but no, not at all: the few times I needed the command line, the exact syntax was a web search away, with plentiful discussion, documentation, and even demo videos to choose from.

    And if I don’t like it, I can try as many as I like off USB drives until I see something I like and decide to install that instead, and there are literally dozens, if not hundreds of distros now.

    So Microsoft can keep that AI-ridden ad-ware Windows 11 shit. I’ll keep 10 for now (installed on a 7 license, lol) until I’m fully comfortable with Linux, and then that’s that.

    Put it this way. I now have a screaming fast machine that runs on 13-year-old hardware where every software I could want for it is free, open source, and backed by a gazillion gurus both pro and amateur for whom no question is too arcane; why the hell should I give that up for the baggy, bloated, slow, privacy-invasive advertising delivery service that is Microsoft Windows?

    I know there will be issues with Linux as I get to know it and use it, just because there are issues with every OS. There may even be things I find I can’t get past, and if that happens I try other distros or suck it up, lol. But fuck MS if they think I am going to pay actual cash to help them serve up my privacy while they deliver unwanted ads to me every time I boot it up.

    Thank you for coming to my Ted talk, lol.

    stinodes, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

    I bought windows pro at some point, but could not for the life of me activate my windows after an install. Didn’t get a serial code, and the system wouldn’t pick up my account. Good riddance.

    Zima, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

    I finally ran out windows 7 keys and had to buy a new one for win11, they cost 4-9$ online.

    teejay,

    Where?

    SomeRandomWords,

    KeysOff has been very reliable for me in the past (I’m not affiliated with them, just a happy customer) but I’m pretty sure there are multiple VLK resellers out there for Windows keys at this point.

    Zima,

    i randomly picked a shady website i found by searching "windows 11 pro license key purchase"

    Piemanding,

    I’ve been able to get them off ebay before for windows 10 keys. Got a pro key for 6 dollars I believe.

    JackbyDev,

    r/MicrosoftSoftwareSwap sells them but mine stopped working and the dude who sold it to me didn’t answer. So don’t go there.

    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Go to Amazon UK, bunch of really cheap ones there. You’ll get the key via email instantly. Ideally, install a fresh windows 10 and immediately upgrade to 11, then the key will be upgraded and remains valid even if the original one gets disabled.

    TalesFromTheKitchen,

    Yeah, volume keys are what I’ve been using the past ten years or so. Only one office key got blacklisted so far. Overall a pretty good deal.

    HidingCat, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

    Hmm, this shouldn't affect me, as my Win 7 Pro key is now a Win 10 Pro key, right?

    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    If you already activated it once with 10 Pro, then yes, you can freely use it beyond the cut-off date.

    RHOPKINS13, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

    Probably blocks the MAS activation scripts from working too.

    Sure enough, on their site:

    Note: Microsoft servers are currently rejecting HWID activation requests when activating through MAS, we’re checking what’s going on now. Use the KMS38 activation option for now.

    TwinHaelix,
    @TwinHaelix@reddthat.com avatar

    This is the real blow. Truly the end of an era.

    scottywh,

    It will absolutely get figured out and gotten around again.

    RickyRigatoni,
    @RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

    Looks like it’s time to start using reactos i guess… ☹️

    zrk,

    Wow, what a timing, just discovered MAS last month and used it last week. Was truly nice and easy, and I liked the technical explanations on their website.

    Never_Sm1le,
    @Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

    Lucky me, just used last month to upgrade to 10 pro

    GardenVarietyAnxiety, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

    Oh no…

    Anyway!

    Lemming, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

    Upgrade to win 10
    Upgrade to win 11
    ???
    Profit

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