lemmy.ml

gentleman, to kbinMeta in lemmy.ml is no longer shadowbanning kbin.

@blightbow Thanks. I appreciate the work that the admins here do. Kbin-social is a nice landing pad for this reddit refugee. That said, I don't have an interest in posting to lemmy.ml because they seem to be a bunch of tankies, which is being generous. The question in my mind is why kbin-social hasn't returned the favor and banned them as well as their gulag archipelago instance?

Thteven,
@Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

You’re thinking of lemmygrad.ml

Lemmy.ml is pretty diverse as far as I’m aware.

blightbow,
@blightbow@kbin.social avatar

Pretty much this. It still gets a lot of flack for being operated by the developers of Lemmy, but there are a large number of users and communities that exist on lemmy.ml for no other reason than it being one of the larger original instances. Most operators of high-volume instances are unlikely to take action against lemmy.ml unless a situation develops that gives them no other choice.

Alexmitter,
@Alexmitter@kbin.social avatar

Those are the same people.

DarkThoughts,

I think you all conflate the admins with the userbase. Lemmy.ml has a lot of regular users & communities. In that sense you would have to blanket block all Lemmy instances in general.

Alexmitter,
@Alexmitter@kbin.social avatar

A community and its direction is though largely depending on the Admins.
Just recently some tankie posted a "meme" on "meme" that just casually tried to claim the Rothschild Family was intertwined with western media and because of that western media bad, just the casual antisemitism. And the Admins did not care.

DarkThoughts,

I can guarantee you that the majority of Lemmy.ml users have absolutely no clue about the political views of their admins. There's a reason why Lemmy.ml is so much larger than Lemmygrad.ml.

And I've seen stupid conspiracy shit on kbin and lemmy.world as well.

Gull,

The issue is not whether there is some individual occasion where some individual person posts "conspiracy shit."

The issue is whether admins act on user reports of blatant anti-semitism.

BaroqueInMind,
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

Browsing any Lemmy instance is like swimming in a public pool and saying only the other half of it is filled with piss and this part is fine...

Lemmygrad and lemmy.ml are both run by the same developers and occupied by the same users: tankies and people who are pro CCP apologists.

Madison_rogue,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

PSA: All public swimming pools are filled with piss.

Lepsea,

It used to be filled with stingrays and Aids, so piss is tad bit better

-spam-,
@-spam-@kbin.social avatar

Diverse but still full of tankies.

Xathonn,
@Xathonn@kbin.social avatar

Doesn't the .ml stand for marx and lenin?

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

That's the rumour.

It's technically the domain for Malawi, who operate a free domain name scheme.

But apparently those devs picked it because of Marx Lenin.

brainfreeze,
@brainfreeze@kbin.social avatar

Thank you for this! I've been wondering what it was but didn't care enough to look it up.

Gull,

It stands for Marxism-Leninism, which other people would call Communism.

AnonTwo,

Return the favor and...not ban them? Because this thread is explaining that it was a bug and has been fixed, meaning no shadowban is occurring anymore....

sparseMatrix,
@sparseMatrix@kbin.social avatar

@gentleman

@blightbow

I too tried to flee reddit for lemmy.ml, over a year ago now - and found it to be a far worse clusterfucked shitstorm than reddit ever was, and I mean that ideologically, philosophically, politically, and morally.

I just didn't go back until the current exodus, mainly because I was trying to see if the account still worked, and it had been lost/purged/banned whatever

fuck those guys and the horse they rode in on, then far as I'm concerned, they can ride it back out of here wet.

Might as well federate with facebook.

gentleman,

@sparseMatrix Agree 100%
@blightbow

SoSquidTaste,

...then far as I'm concerned, they can ride it back out of here wet.

This was the most anachronistic American Southwestern burn I've yet seen on any internet comment thread to date. I can nearly hear the spitoon at the end.

I know it sounds like I'm making fun of it, but I genuinely am not. Marvelous

atlasraven31, to RedditMigration in The numbers for the r/mildlyinteresting vote haven't been openly available and I think that they are important to spread.

Yup. Keep up the pressure.

BuddhaBeettle,
@BuddhaBeettle@kbin.social avatar

Don't really need or want my data during my time in reddit, but it was an easy form to fill, and I spent years making it (although not as many as some of those 10+ year-old accounts), and if it is a pain in the butt for them to send then screw it, its mine and I want it.

metaStatic,

11+ years, ran shreddit, stuff keeps popping up, sent request to see what's left.

Seasoned_Greetings, to RedditMigration in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

I’ve heard that moneied interests are paying Twitter and now reddit behind the scenes to ruin their respective communities. It’s because every time something happens that shakes the foundation of who’s in charge, it’s always a social media coordinated public effort behind the push for change. The most recent one I can think of is the Twitter-fueled women’s rights movement in Iran. Or even the push to get progressive names like AOC elected.

So now we have rich interests paying CEOs to sabotage their own companies in order to better maintain the status quo.

I know this concept falls squarely into conspiracy theory territory, but with Twitter and reddit, both once bastions of progressive organization, going to shit at the same time, and threads popping up with the messaging that they explicitly want to avoid news and politics, you can’t help but wonder if there’s a concentrated effort behind the scenes to break up communities that are actually starting to make a difference.

HughJanus,

I mean what makes far more sense is that interests rates have skyrocketed, which means VC money dried up, which means these platforms that haven’t made money in over a decade suddenly have to figure out how to run themselves.

It’s not just Reddit and Twitter, it’s YouTube and Twitch also.

Brkdncr,

It also might have something to do with the people running the show are now being tasked with real work and it turns out they aren’t good at their job.

nicetriangle,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Yeah I think this is the Occam’s razor explanation that makes more sense. And why might Reddit be doing such a similar thing so soon after twitter? Spez has said he’s in touch with Elon and admires his business decisions. Simple as that.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

For those in control … there is no more terrible thing than to have all your workers talking amongst one another to discuss how terrible their situation is and what they could all do about it.

It’s the same in prison … if the guards and management keep everyone in control by isolating them all. Once the inmates start talking to one another, they start to conspire and plan on what to do about their situation. If they plan long enough, they’ll figure out how to do illegal activity, find specialty items or contraband … give them more time and they’ll start trying to figure out how to break out of their situation.

Then when things go too far and all sorts of illegal activity is taking place and people are trying to break out … the guards and managers will shake up the prison and breakup the communications system they were all using.

WeDoTheWeirdStuff,

Do you have even 1 source to back up that outlandish statement?

WolfhoundRO,

It doesn’t sound too outlandish. The destruction of Twitter seems to attract some replacement from the far-right groups, Threads is already gaining far-right pages promotion and Reddit is still in the phase of destroying a once very influencial community. And all in the same time as the beginning of the US electoral campaign. It really aligns with a concentrated effort

Xeelee,
@Xeelee@kbin.social avatar

It's a theory that fits the available evidence. So it's more valid than most conspiracy theories.

lixus98, to RedditMigration in The numbers for the r/mildlyinteresting vote haven't been openly available and I think that they are important to spread.
@lixus98@kbin.social avatar

When spez says "We don't want to show NSFW to users" they mean they don't care how many users voted, they are saying "We don't want to give a bad impression to users that will use Reddit no matter what".
They just don't care about anything else that isn't money, if they could replace Reddit users with tiktok users they would be thrilled, even if they lose 12+ year old accounts with thousands of comments.
With this I'm not saying the protest is useless, it has the power to basically kill Reddit if enough users participate in it.

Zorque,

He means "NSFW hurts ad revenue"

xc2215x, to RedditMigration in Coincidence that Reddit and Twitter are taking the same approaches to monetization?

Spez loves Musk apparently.

patchw3rk, to BestOf in /u/@[email protected] discusses the dichotomy between effective moderation vs. low content, with excellent references provided
@patchw3rk@kbin.social avatar

Seeing those references was very refreshing!

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

IKR - who actually provides links to original source material these days?! :-P

(Except for this entire magazine, ofc:-D)

akrot, to linux in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

Dietpie is a lightweight debian not ubuntu. And debian is still one of the top choices (if not the) for servers.

Ubuntu is just debian with extra bad decisions.

danielfgom, to linux in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?
@danielfgom@lemmy.world avatar

If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.

Or use the LTS but use Snaps for those applications that you want to have the latest versions of. Snaps are getting better and I think eventually you won’t notice the difference between them and native apps, except for the space they just up. But that goes for Flatpak too.

Personally I use Linux Mint Debian Edition because I’m not happy with the way Canonical is going. In most cases the “old” apps are fine for me, but if I felt need the newest version I’ll use a Flatpak.

Another rolling option is OpenSuse Tumbleweed however, being a Mac which uses proprietary WiFi drivers, your WiFi will break with kernel updates, which can be irritating, unless you have ethernet.

nephs, to linux in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

Is Ubuntu trying embrace, extend, exterminate?

I just realised snaps kind of look like “extend”, after a long period of “embrace”.

Did anyone write about it, yet? Am I overthinking it?

Mac, to worldnews in The U.N. says 90% of Gazan's are Displaced and 60% of Infrastructure Damaged/Destroyed

And nearly the entire world is allowing it to happen.

Franzia, to 196 in possibility rule

I dont think being trans would have radicalized me nearly as much if not for the culture war bs against queer people. Good job, conservatives.

flambonkscious, to worldnews in The U.N. says 90% of Gazan's are Displaced and 60% of Infrastructure Damaged/Destroyed

Only 60% of the infrastructure? The pic looks a lot higher., but I guess thats just the foreground…

enitoni, to 196 in congratulations
@enitoni@beehaw.org avatar

“golden blue shark”

JoeKrogan, to linux in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

I used. To use Ubuntu before unity and switched to Debian 👑 in 2012. I still have to use Ubuntu for work and I just get on with it. It could be worse… I could have to use windows.

Anyway my main gripes with Ubuntu are snaps and how they keep swapping packages in apt to be installed as snaps .

I dont hate it, its a tool and in most cases I can use it and there is no problem if not there are other options.

rubythulhu, to 196 in congratulations
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damn it where do i get a yellow one

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