Maybe we shouldn’t ally with genocidal regimes, including Israel and the nationalists/nazi’s at home?
Don’t be or support murderers? It’s almost too simple. Someone should maybe start a religion and include that in the “thou shalt not” part… That’ll stop em!
The Dogger Bank incident (also known as the North Sea Incident, the Russian Outrage or the Incident of Hull) occurred on the night of 21/22 October 1904, when the Baltic Fleet of the Imperial Russian Navy mistook a British trawler fleet from Kingston upon Hull in the Dogger Bank area of the North Sea for Imperial Japanese Navy torpedo boats and fired on them, also firing on each other in the chaos of the melée.
I don’t get the argument. I pay a telecom for service, I expect them to deliver whichever data I request. It doesn’t matter where it originates, that’s what I’m paying for. It shouldn’t be dependent on whether some third party has coughed up or not.
Every data gets even paid twice. The sender has an internet service contract and pays, the receiver does as well.
You opening some Lemmy post and requesting data, has the server owner pay via his hoster contract and you pay for the same data packet via your ISP monthly fee.
Now they are asking for a 3rd payment (once again). Why even stop at 3? Just ask for 4 or 5 payments and then meet in the middle at 3.
Pootin probably has compromat on Elon. Rumor is that back in the early 00s when he was looking to buy a rocket in Russia, the FSB enticed him with a minor.
They also have compromat on Trump.
Can’t know for sure, but the fact is that Elon is risking a nationalisation of SpaceX right now and I find it hard to imagine he sympathizes hard enough with the Russians to lose SpaceX.
You know, even granting the hypothesis that someone wanted to fuck a minor (and such people obviously exist, it's not a major stretch) why in the fuck would you do it in Russia where they have a long and illustrious history of honey trapping fools?
Oh.
When asked correctly, it really kind of answers itself, huh.
I think we need to stop overestimating dictators and engaging in this kind of conspiracy so much.
Putin isn't a chessmaster. He's a strongman. People around him fall in line because they rightfully fear violent retribution.
People overseas that take pro-Russia stances do so for the same reason they cleave to any conservative politics -- they're grumpy, unskeptical simpletons. Musk and Trump are not victims of Putin's grand strategy. They're just bad people.
I agree, Putin/Russia having kompromat on everyone and everything, while based on some kind of historical truth, is absulutley an overblown conspiracy.
As far as trump goes, I personally believe “probably” not in a pp tape way, as if those ever existed, we would have seen them by now. I absolutley believe Putin had hard paper trails/evidence that trump was, and still is massively inflating his net worth, and all the weird bank stuff in the EU
Fundamentally, we do not live in an era where personal secrets can be kept. If someone knows about it enough to blackmail you, then it's going to get out.
And even then, it doesn't matter. These people are immune to blackmail. If you think about it at all, it doesn't make sense. Blackmailing Trump? What does that even mean? He'll just say it's fake news and lies, that any evidence is proof of a conspiracy against him. That any prosecution is a corrupt witch hunt led by his enemies.
What POSSIBLE evidence could we have that would change the minds of the American people about him?
A history of sexual abuse perversion, and rape? Already a matter of record.
Shady financial dealings? Again, we already know it -- and a prosecution is underway for some of the specifics that may yet sink his organization (but, notably, will probably do little to him personally).
Attempts to subvert American Democracy and elevate racism and bigotry? He's proud of that.
Individual fraud and larceny? His supporters think it's totally fine for him to give all his kin cushy government jobs they are unqualified for and to force the CIA to pay for deluxe packages in his hotels.
Implicate his family? He doesn't give a shit about them and is the entire reason they're involved in any case. The abused abuse.
Grand, national corruption and treason? He proudly accepts the Saudi money and makes public requests for help from the Russian intelligence services.
Anyone who hasn't already 100% made up their mind about Trump is too much a fool to have new evidence changing their perspective at this point. And the story with a Musk type is barely any different.
This is one of the cases that I feel a government should be able to directly fine the higher ups in companies that are ignoring the sanctions. We are confiscating the Russian millionaires why not ours for the same crime.
Good. As long as we don’t create a Treaty of Versaille 2 situation and bankrupt New Russia into despair. Let’s not forget what happened after WW1. If Putin’s regime falls and Russia truly wants to become democratic nation we should also support that.
I agree with that but I’m not optimistic. Kremlin propaganda is already as stupid as it can be and most economic ties have been cut already. Should Russia be forgiven the destructions in Ukraine? It is a tough decision.
It’s the Russian government and the circles around it that are committing the crimes, not Russia. There are Russian people supporting the Kremlin, but by far not all of them. It is a tough decision whatever is done after this war ends, but there is no alternative than to build a democracy not only in Ukraine but also in Russia imo.
None other than the Russians can build their own democracy. No one can do it for themselves. And it will not happen while Puttin lives.
Most of the money in Russia is already in the hands of their oligarchs. They’re already blaming everything on the west. A heavy debt would obviously fall on the shoulders of the people, which is not desirable, but they will hate the west regardless of this debt, and the difference will only be whether Ukraine is rebuilt by russian money or western money.
A Russian anti-corruption organisation set up by the jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny claims emails show that the Russian president ordered the urgent moving of the 82-metre superyacht, called Graceful, from a shipyard in Hamburg, where it was undergoing a $32m refit […]
Photos show the ship being towed out of Hamburg on 7 February en route to the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad […]
[…] on 22 February – Putin ordered the full-blown invasion of Ukraine. After the invasion, the US, UK and EU imposed sanctions on Russian-owned assets overseas, and dozens of oligarch-owned superyachts were seized across the world.
They pay through their ISPs who then pay through peering agreements. Whats next, my friend’s ISP charging me to deliver him an email? Let’s make it like in the US where you’re charged for receiving SMS.
I think it would be better to hold the $400bn as a carrot for Russia to elect a democratic government and get a Marshall plan like deal.
Funding the Ukranian rebuild should not be dependent on Russian funds, but can easily be paid for by private capital and EU funds as Ukraine joins NATO and the EU.
And in terms of our American and European electorate, since when do we let the lowest IQ quintile dictate our policies.
I do not think simply holding the assets will be enough. The owners of the seized assets have already responded by doing nothing.
I think we should start very slowly (but loudly) spending the seized assets to fund Ukraine. As luxury yachts start getting auctioned off for ammo crates, I think the oligarchs will become the most motivated they can be. If they still don’t act, then they should lose those assets anyway. Fuck 'em.
Definitely start auctioning off those stuff for cash.
And also agree that symbolic actions should be taken.
However, if we just transfer the money to Ukraine, there is a real risk that 10 years down the line the courts will rule against the transfer. And then the EU will be on the hook to compensate Russian oligarchs.
Whereas if they are transferred to a democratic Russia, then Russian courts will have jurisdiction over the property of Russian citizens, which is much less likely to backfire.
This is the way, just because of some crazy “president” you shouldnt fuck the people, and this is a good way to “grab 'em by the balls” I mean the oligarchs
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