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Treczoks, to technology in Apple calls Android a 'massive tracking device'

Pot. Kettle. Black.

AngryCommieKender,

No kettle here. The pot sees its reflection in the kettle, kettle being shiny, so the kettle is actually different from the pot. Just one pot calling another pot black in this instance.

MeanEYE, to technology in YouTube is now fully blocking ad blockers around the world
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Nooo. YouTube thinks it’s fully blocking ad blockers. In reality nothing’s changed.

RxBrad, to android in Samsung’s emoji are bad - 9to5google
@RxBrad@lemmings.world avatar

Slow news day?

this_is_router,
@this_is_router@feddit.de avatar

My thoughts exactly 😂😬😋😭

Arcane_Trixster,

Trying to bump those subscription numbers with teenage girls.

Welp_im_damned,

Hey I’m not a teenage girl. I’m college age student that loves the emoji kitchen smh. https://lemdro.id/pictrs/image/07eca721-6cc7-4874-bb27-f197f99da2d6.png

inspector,

I know one guy in one of our Telegram chats that simply loves their Android turtle emoji

👀

GingeyBook,
Welp_im_damned,
cole,
@cole@lemdro.id avatar

oh no

QuazarOmega,

Let them cook

gutter564, to technology in Google raising price of YouTube Premium to $13.99 per month

That’s nice. continues to enjoy effectively yt premium with NewPiped for free

Rookiewtf,

It crashes decently often but still worth it

daniskarma,

It has never crashed for me. Not once. In what device are you using it?

Tb0n3,

ReVanced is the way.

VioletteRei,
@VioletteRei@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t find a way to download easily videos like on Youtube Premium, do you know how?

Historical_General,
@Historical_General@lemmy.world avatar

You can enable it on settings, you’ll probably have to download one of the suggested apps that do this, newpipe is probably best.

Tb0n3,

Yeah. You have to download in an external app. That was something I did use a fair bit with premium but it’s no biggie that it’s gone for me.

Gestrid,

Install Newpipe.

Tap the share button in the YouTube ReVanced app.

Select Newpipe. It’ll ask you some info about the download, then start downloading in the background.

rustyriffs,

Seems like a good alternative. Do you know if there a way to import my current subscriptions?

Also, I’ve been using the music service for some time now as well. Do you have any suggestions for viable replacements for that?

TrenchcoatFullofBats,

I’ve been using the music service for some time now as well. Do you have any suggestions for viable replacements for that?

Self-host Navidrome on a cheap VPS (or at home), use Symfonium to stream your music to your phone/car.

Gestrid,

YouTube Music ReVanced exists if that suits you.

ReVanced can patch quite a few apps, actually, not just YouTube.

rustyriffs,

What all do you use it for?

Gestrid,

I mainly just use ReVanced for YouTube and YouTube Music. It supports some other apps I use (like Twitch or Spotify), but there are better alternatives to those two. (If you’d like to see a full list of the apps supported by ReVanced and the patches available for those apps, go to revanced.app/patches .)

Someone created a version of the Twitch app that supports BTTV emotes, blocks ads, auto-claims channel points, and auto-updates whenever there’s a new version available. They called it BTTV, though I don’t believe they’re actually associated with the BTTV browser extension.

As for Spotify, I use xManager. They patch the Spotify app to allow ad-free music, among other Spotify Premium features. (Not every Premiums feature is enabled. Some require communicating with Spotify’s servers, and those aren’t enabled.)

jeanofthedead,
@jeanofthedead@lemmy.world avatar

SmartTubeNext on AndroidTV. Complete with SponsorBlock and everything.

deweydecibel,

Blocking YouTube ads I support.

Sponsorblocker is just shitty. That money goes directly to the content creators, not Google. It hurts the wrong people.

Besides, you can fast-forward those.

XPost3000,

Yeah, I’m personally cool with sponsorships and I rock uBlock Origin

QHC,

Does SponsorBlock automatically skipping vs me manually scrubbing actually make any difference to what the creator receives in compensation?

bamboo,

No, I doubt the analytics software can tell the difference. It just sees the user skip from timestamp X to Y

briongloid,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

I use SponsorBlock because I pay for YT Premium.

bamboo,

Besides what others have said, many YouTubers that include sponsor segments get paid a flat rate for doing so before/when the video is published. They don’t get recurring revenue based on sponsor segments, only from YouTube ads.

jeanofthedead,
@jeanofthedead@lemmy.world avatar

I refuse to watch ads anywhere, sorry.

stagen, to technology in Chrome not proceeding with Web Integrity API deemed by many to be DRM
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

The “don’t be evil” motto was replaced with “don’t be evil, but greedy and posessive is okay”

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

And then later edited to

“don’t be evil, but greedy and posessive is okay”

FrankFrankson,

Soon after it changes to it’s final form:

“don’t be evil, but greed y and posessive is okay”

The_Helmet_Stays_On,

Then it will eventually come to its end and become:

“don’t be evil, but gre e dy and posessive is okay”

registrert,
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Some people have moved to /e/ already.

possiblylinux127,

It has always been…

axlc,

I just figured they skipped straight to:

“don’t be evil ,but greedy and posessive is okay”

BaardFigur,

“don’t be evil, but greedy and posessive is okay”

FTFY

Kekzkrieger, to android in Motorola is disabling Android phones purchased through unauthorized sellers in Mexico
@Kekzkrieger@feddit.de avatar

I mean i understand they wanna do something against unauthorized sellers, but fucking consumers in the process is wrong in any way.

It’s a joke that a phone provider can lock phones remotely no matter what.

kratoz29,

I mean i understand they wanna do something against unauthorized sellers, but fucking consumers in the process is wrong in any way.

Don’t pay much attention to me, the end user (Mexican)… but… I have a crazy idea… what about lowering prices? :D

Kekzkrieger,
@Kekzkrieger@feddit.de avatar

Did you ever think about the rich shareholders who really need the extra money to buy another vacation home in Hawaii?

They realllyyyyyy needd theee moneeeey

kratoz29,

I am so inconsiderate.

ArtificialLink, to android in Source: Google Pixel 8 will get more Android OS updates - 9to5google

Cool do the same for the rest.

Honza368,

It would be cool if they backported the promise. But I don’t expect it, honestly.

captainsiscold,
@captainsiscold@kbin.social avatar

My thoughts on it: cool, now give it a headphone jack again and I might buy it.

I'm not buying a phone that requires $100 wireless earbud DLC (which honestly feel like just another thing to become e-waste in a few years when the battery gives out).

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

You realize dlc stands for downloadable content, right?

jsnfwlr,

You realise DLC was originally referred to an expansion that was released a while after a game’s initial release. But now game developers are pulling half the features from a game, with those features being put in a DLC instead.

So the original comment labeling the practice of a feature being pulled from the original product and put into a separate product is apt and valid.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

… the fact that I realize this is why I think it’s a weird way to use the term.

Headphones are not downloadable. They’re not even software. Also I don’t game all that much anymore but I’ve yet to play a game where I “needed” a dlc, I don’t think I’ve ever even bought one.

I have, on the other hand, bought 100 pairs of headphones

jsnfwlr,

You get that analogies exist right?

The original commenter used the term “DLC” to paint a pretty precise mental picture. And you got hung up on the semantics.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

It’s a clunky analogy. I stand by that, and rightly so.

It’s actually less of an analogy and more of a “look I’m a cool nerd too” type comment

anonymous_bot,

What phone do you have right now?

What would you switch to if it dies?

captainsiscold,
@captainsiscold@kbin.social avatar

Galaxy S9, and most likely a Sony Xperia 5 IV (or 5 V, since that's supposed to release in a few days). Honestly I'm using the S9 until it completely gives out on me.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

My soundcore wireless headphones have lasted longer than any pair of wired headphones I’ve ever had. Going on 4 years now and just as good as the day I bought them. They were only $70 too. Not saying you’re wrong but there’s reasonably priced quality ones out there if you look

darkkite,

my wired headphones are going strong since 2012

ArtificialLink,

Got a pair of wired headphones from the 90’s lol batteries in wireless would long be dead

shortwavesurfer,

Second to soundcore. I got the soundcore life Q10 and love them several years later.

Piers,

Do you spend $70 on your wired headphones though? Or are you comparing the durability of cheap crap wired headphones to decent value budget wireless headphones? I have both a pair of Soundcore wireless headphones and a couple of pairs of wired headphones at home that all cost around the same amount and I’m certain I could smash the Soundcore headphones into tiny pieces using the wired ones and the wired ones would still work fine.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

I spent $30-40 a few times on some wired headphones. This was around 10 or so years ago so, what 50/55 in today money? Maybe more. They’d last me 8 months to a year instead of the 3 or 4 from the cheap ones but eventually the wire at the buds or the aux plug would wear out from being shoved in my pocket, bag, etc. For everyday use I prefer wireless. I have a nice turntable, amp, and speakers for when I want to listen at home. Headphones are exclusively an “on the go” thing for me and my several years old set of BT headphones do the trick just fine

darkkite,

you can still use an adapter.

I did on my T-Mobile g1. the first android phone

bug,

I know the removal of established standards that people use is a bad thing, but I don’t know why people still pretend wireless headphones are suddenly the only option like this is all a conspiracy to sell planned-obsolescence tech and track everyone via Bluetooth. Adapters might not be ideal in every situation or for every use-case but don’t pretend most people can’t just leave one attached to the end of their headphones!

captainsiscold,
@captainsiscold@kbin.social avatar

Fair enough, adapters do exist, but as you point out, there are situations where that is not ideal. On a long flight, for example, where I might want to charge my phone and also listen to something, or (in my case) someone who does some amateur audio engineering work on the side, where having the ability to simply wire in a device to play some audio is a big plus. My biggest problem is that phones from five years ago could do both wireless and wired headphones just fine, no adapters needed. What have we gained as consumers by the loss of one of those options?

bug,

I think regularly taking long flights and tinkering with audio equipment are both niche enough use-cases to justify looking for phones that cater to your niche (I.e. have a headphone jack). As for why that is now niche, you often hear suggestions of improved waterproofing and/or more internal space for other things (or being thinner).

cheery_coffee,

Just buy a dongle, they’re cheap and the audio quality is better than most cheap DACs phones used to have.

I get that it’s stupid and annoying, but what isn’t in 2033.

Welp_im_damned,

I mean they did that with the og pixel. Idk why they wouldn’t do that with the 6 and 7?

armrods,

They are not in charge of other oems updates, that’s why Play System updates were created (mainline modules)

ArtificialLink,

I was talking about pixels man. Lol

theyresocool, to technology in Google raising price of YouTube Premium to $13.99 per month

They gave me 3 months free and it was just the same broken website without ads.

Youtube is completely broken. The algorithm doesn’t even auto play undiscovered music or videos. It’s just serving me the exact same videos I already watched. It used to be a really fun and good service that was free and now you get shit and have to pay for it.

Why would anyone pay for that?

Is anyone running the company or are they all just doing drugs?

xavier666,

Good for the users =/= good for the shareholders

Linssiili,

Unfortunately you need to (at least in my experience) purge the feed couple times a year. Just use “not interested” with a heavy hand and a light heart. It tends to recommend new stuff after that.

Jakeroxs,

My wife and I watch certain YouTubers more then we watch TV, and use a TV to do it, so it’s pretty nice not having any ads and we don’t really rely on the algo at all.

Gestrid,

If you’re using a smart TV running any version of Android (Fire TV, etc.) or you’re using a device that plugs into your TV that’s running Android, you can use SmartTube to watch YouTube if you want.

It blocks ads, it’s got SponsorBlock, and it supports casting from somewhere else (like your phone’s YouTube app). It’s also pretty customizable, too.

Jakeroxs,

I’ll check out SmartTube, tho I also rely on Yt Music quite a bit and Yt Prem comes with that as well

Gestrid,

ReVanced supports YouTube Music on Android, and it includes the ability to block ads and enable playing music in the background, among other things.

henfredemars, to android in Google raising price of YouTube Premium to $13.99 per month

Wow! It was hardly worth it to begin with.

NENathaniel,

Feels like one of the best value subscriptions to me?

I use YouTube more than most streaming services and it helps support creators

sbv, to android in Nothing Chats, an iMessage app for Android, is a privacy nightmare

It’s bizarre that Sunbird touted their solution as end-to-end encrypted, when it can’t be - iMessage drops to plaintext on the Mac farm.

helenslunch,

Well not sure about Sunbird. Beeper advertises this also but it’s not entirely untrue. It’s E2EE from the sender to your Beeper server, where it’s decrypted, then re-encypted as a Matrix message. But it’s all open source so you can see what’s going on.

You can get around this vulnerability by hosting your own Beeper server.

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

While it’s a good solution, it is entirely untrue. A message is either End to End Encrypted or it is not. If the message is decrypted at any point between the sender and the intended recipient, it is definitively not End to End Encrypted.

helenslunch,

While it’s a good solution, it is entirely untrue.

It’s not though. It’s still encrypted from beginning to end. It just changes encryption in the middle.

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You can’t change encryption in the middle without decrypting, however briefly.

Railcar8095,

It’s encrypted at the beginning and at the end, but NOT from beginning to end.

habanhero,

E2EE means it’s End-to-End Encrypted. If it’s decrypted at any point during transit then it’s by definition not E2EE and Beeper shouldn’t be making that claim.

skullgiver, (edited )
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  • helenslunch,

    Now you’re back to “all of my messages can be stolen if a server gets hacked” again

    Except you’re not because your decrypted messages aren’t stored anywhere.

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  • helenslunch,

    Good points all around

    SuddenlyBlowGreen,

    It’s E2EE from the sender to your Beeper server, where it’s decrypted, then re-encypted as a Matrix message.

    Then it’s not E2E encrypted.

    One end is your device, the other end is the other device. It’s only E2E encrypted if it is not decrypted until it reaches the other device.

    helenslunch,

    Yes. It is.

    Spedwell,

    Sticking two E2EE tunnels together with a plaintext middleman doesn’t result in a single E2EE tunnel.

    The reason the distinction is important is because the security profile is vastly different—a compromised server leads to a compromised message—which isn’t true for actual E2EE services like a pure Matrix link.

    Side note: the first thing you should ask of a “end-to-end encrypted” product to you is “which ‘ends’ do you mean?” I’ve seen TLS advertised as E2EE before.

    Spedwell,

    Adding: TLS is actually a pretty apt analogy here.

    You could make a chat server that just accepts plain text messages over a TLS link, and that’s basically the same security topology as with this Beeper bridge.

    But no one would call that a E2EE chat.

    Sjy, (edited )

    How does one host their own beeper server?

    Edit: found it

    helenslunch,
    Penguincoder, to android in Android Auto may soon support syncing your phone wallpaper

    Good to see them working on the important issues affecting Android auto.

    THB,

    I disable the app on every phone, but now Maps has a mini version attached to navigation mode :/

    JWBananas,
    @JWBananas@startrek.website avatar

    There is a setting buried somewhere to disable it.

    ciphershort,
    @ciphershort@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s in Maps > Settings > Navigation Settings > Google Assistant Settings (manage driving mode).

    EtzBetz,

    How many phones do you own? One for every weekday? :)

    poke,

    Glad they aren’t wasting time on things like notifications blocking navigation!

    Hazdaz, to android in While Android as a whole continues to shrink in the US, Google Pixel keeps growing

    It’s still 45% marketshare Android vs 55% iOS. With the way the title reads, you’d think Android was down in the single digits and barely hanging on.

    Personally I just don’t see how anyone uses iOS. The iPhone I have is just awful. The UI is clunky and I’m absolutely baffled why this stupid phone weighs so much. That’s not a good thing, damn it. My Samsung is infinitely better device in my opinion. But I’d still love to see a third player come in. I was sad when Microsoft killed off their phone OS. It might not have been great at the time, but more competition is always better. And then if course there’s also PalmOS. So sad to see such a cool OS die off.

    Whirlybird,

    The UI is clunky

    What do you mean by this? Is this just another “snappy” type thing that is meaningless?

    dingus,

    iOS seems to be meant for simplicity and ease of use. I mean, not that Android is confusing at all, but it seems that the less tech focused you are the more you gravitate toward iOS. I would never want an iPhone, but they seem to really kill it in the battery and camera departments.

    amenotef, to android in Google delays launch of Find My Device network and trackers, benefiting Apple
    @amenotef@lemmy.world avatar

    I really want this. But at the same time I’m really worried about how much battery life this is going to drain. If it’s less than 1% every 24 hours I’m ok with it. If it’s more, nope.

    Google in the past years is focusing a lot in adding more and more services while forgetting that what the people just want is to have a phone that lasts the entire day and can fit in normal pockets.

    hello_cruel_world,

    I have the pixel 7, and I have found that not having any friends, and surfing the net on other devices really helps the battery to last 2 days!

    amenotef,
    @amenotef@lemmy.world avatar

    Lol. I’m pretty sure there must be something there draining the battery that can be disabled. (Maybe preference of LTE over 5G, stuff like that).

    I have a Pixel 5 and I always had full day battery life (I’m not a heavy user). So good battery life.

    But I used to charge it every 3 days and this year on the 2nd day I need to charge it.

    And the battery menu can’t be trusted. It doesn’t even update quickly.

    dojan,
    @dojan@lemmy.world avatar

    I have a Pixel 6 I think, for work. Pretty much only use it for 2fa at work, so it lasts for several days.

    Izzy,
    @Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

    There must be a way to completely opt out and not have this affect your device in any way right?

    Tagger,

    I doubt it

    Izzy,
    @Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

    Looks like I’ll be installing some custom OS like Graphene.

    jaxwxboss,
    @jaxwxboss@fosstodon.org avatar

    @Izzy @Tagger That's an excellent choice if you want to have control over your phone instead of it having control over you. 😉

    southernwolf,
    @southernwolf@furry.engineer avatar

    @Izzy @Tagger CalyxOS is a fantastic choice too! :blobfoxcomputer:

    HeartyBeast,
    @HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

    I can’t see why not. With Apple it is a simple on-off toggle for each device and of turned on the user chooses one device that they want to use to indicate their location

    Izzy,
    @Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

    But we are talking about having our device inadvertently used by Google to locate other peoples devices. They are advertising that they have a network of over a billion android devices to locate such things. Not only do I not want to buy a tracker I also don’t want to participate in this network.

    Serinus,

    I’m okay with helping people find their things. Especially if I’m in an airport or generally in public.

    Maybe I’d want it off when I’m connected to my home WiFi.

    Izzy,
    @Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not really the thing that is important. On principal I disagree with the idea that it isn’t opt-in only. Then ontop of that if there is no way to even opt-out that is crossing the line. It doesn’t matter what it is or what it is for.

    kiddblur,

    I really can’t imagine jt be that bad. It should just be an occasional ping, unless you want to track on demand. At least that’s how the Apple Find My ecosystem works. If I don’t check a device’s location, it doesn’t ping for hours, but then if I want, I can watch a device in real time (impacting battery of course). I’d imagine google’s implementation will be similar

    Virkkunen,
    @Virkkunen@kbin.social avatar

    Samsung's and Apple's have negligible battery drain.

    kbotc,

    It’s been negligible for almost a decade: aislelabs.com/…/ibeacon-battery-drain-iphones/

    You also likely have devices using Bluetooth LE around you already.

    thisisnotcoincedence, to android in Xiaomi won't give Android updates if you unlock your bootloader

    It’s possible that rooting your phone impedes the ability for the Chinese spyware to work properly.

    Maoo,
    @Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

    The only spyware you should be concerned about is that from your own country. That’s the country that can actually do things against you with the information. What are you worried about “China” doing with your chats or metadata on which apps are open?

    sickpusy,

    Word. All this China is a big brother fails account for the fact that most states today are big brothers. It’s only a matter of degree.

    chaircat,

    It’s worse than that. All this China big brother talk is just a variant of xenophobia. It’s a talking point they’ve been trained to slam their foreign “enemies” about without ever thinking about it at all of what the actual harm they’re concerned about would look like.

    Asudox, to technology in Apple calls Android a 'massive tracking device'
    @Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

    Not wrong but ironic coming from apple. As if they don’t track and have spyware.

    icedterminal,

    From their own privacy policy they outline what they do:

    For research and development purposes, we may use datasets such as those that contain images, voices or other data that could be associated with an identifiable person.

    To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees, such as maps data providers, may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device.

    Apple’s websites, online services, interactive applications, email messages, and advertisements may use “cookies” and other technologies such as pixel tags and web beacons.

    We also use personal information to help us create, develop, operate, deliver, and improve our products, services, content and advertising

    At times Apple may provide third parties with certain personal information to provide or improve our products and services, including to deliver products at your request, or to help Apple market to consumers.

    Apple may collect location, IP Address, network information, Bluetooth information, connected devices, accessories, personal demographics, browsing history, browser fingerprint, device fingerprint, search history, app data, usage data, performance, diagnostics, product interaction, transaction information, payment information, purchasing records, contacts, social graph, watch history, listening interests, reading list, call metadata, device information, messaging metadata, email addresses, salary, income, assets, health data, ad interaction, in-app purchases, in-app subscriptions, app downloads, music downloads, movie downloads, TV show downloads, Apple ID, IDFA, Random Unique ID, UUID, IMEI, Hardware serial number, SIM serial number, phone number, telemetry, cookies, Nearby WiFi MAC, Siri request history, Web sign-in, songs played, play and pause times, playlists, engagement and library.

    Literally all of this is what Google does. The only thing Apple does differently is hinder 3rd party apps to a greater degree. But to be fair, Google has been improving the Privacy features of Android with each version.

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